Wait, what?!? You got a source for that?

I'll be pissed if it's true... Audacity holds a special place in my heart.

You don't and cannot finance Firefox. Mozilla gets all the money. I would love a Firefox subscription, but the CEO grabs all the millions.

If you have better ideas...

Not for real.

Try wget2 instead, it's faster.

Really? It doesn't look like it - theta been some bleating about lag and far of oy uploading audio but other than a whole lot if argument, I can't see much in the way of details, let alone facts

firefox is debataable

Google funds them so their is "competition" in the browser space, to ward of antitrust lawsuits

There's also Servo but it's been in the works for a long time.

Who woulda thunk greed is the denominator??!!

People have ALWAYS wanted to make better tools. Did we need to improve our arrowheads and spears every generation? No, we could have kept the same designs as long as they got the job done.

But humans are pretty unique. We will spend significantly more time testing and improving our tools for only a minor improvement. Because we are not doing it for only ourselves. We are doing it for the knowledge of future generations.

Closed source software and profit driven economic models go AGAINST human nature. It is human to plant trees for which you will never live to enjoy the shade of.

There is no major company that allows tools to be written that fill this human connection in building something solely for the purpose of building a good tool to make our lives easier and better.

Obviously this isn't a Ferengi operation.

honestly I just looked at what others have done with qobuz-player which is a TUI qobuz player and pretty much copied and pasted that.

Oh sick, I didn't know you can convert vids with vlc. I guess i should RTFM.

Name a better open source browser built from the ground up that isn't backed by big tech, I'll wait.

Ladybird is on the horizon.

Also Firefox isn't built from the ground up I don't believe. It's based on Gecko which iirc was based on KHTML. idk i can't fully remember don't take this as fact. i use firefox and prefer it to chomium based browsers but Mozilla has been making really weird moves lately around AI that I think is very unnecessary.

Chrome and Safari are built from forks of KHTML, WebKit, not Gecko

Firefox was born out of the Mozilla project.

That came from Netscape?

shoutout to ffmpeg!

GIMP is not high quality. Audacity was sold out. Firefox has also sold out. Apache OpenOffice was what fucked over and led to LibreOffice coming ahead

Source - download page's main option wants you to download using the "Muse Hub". Even if you install with a normal installer, here's one of the welcome tips

Yuck. Thanks for the heads-up.

VLC remains the GOAT

Firefox? Lmao

Servo is way way way ahead and isn't being built by fascist white supremacist and sympathizers.

yeah Firefox doesn't belong in this meme

Gimp is not exactly on par with programs in other categories, but that doesn't mean it's not high quality. It's good code that is stable, multiplatform, and the project has picked up the pace in recent months. I feel it's unfair to call the project "not high quality"

The Problem with open source is, it relies on self exploitation. Most OS Dev don't get paid, so they've got to work another jib full time. This leads to a lot of burned out devs from their project and that is a real problem.

Before a project becomes self sufficient on donationa, it needs to become really big. Most projects simply never reach that scale.

It should be common sense, but while it's not, this kind of comment is refreshing like a breeze on the nape

Firefox has a profit incentive and its making low quality software...

I wouldn't say low

Ya let's use chrome instead

So many people let perfect be the enemy of good. Firefox is great. It's the pillar of non-Chromium of browsers. Servo and Ladybird are not there yet and will take many years to surpass Firefox if ever. A Firefox fork has a better shot than those 2

GIMP is great software. Is it just Photoshop and Affinity better than it. Not seeing as much hate on Inkscape when it's just Adobe and Affinity as better.

OpenOffice is outdated but was good for like ~2010

A bunch of y'all would have been ragging on Blender 10 years ago. Ragging on Krita. In 2012 acting like gaming in Linux was doomed. In 2015 acting like Kdenlive would never reduce crashes and improve functionality. Acted like Darktable would never be competitive with Lightroom. Godot would be no good for anything more than 2d sidescrollers and never compete with Unity 5. A bunch of do nothing fence sitters. Firefox and GIMP developers contribute more to the good of humanity than anyone crying about them in this thread

Yeah low. If you compare load times side by side with chromium based browsers, you can't deny how painfully slow firefox is. Thats not to mention the ancient bugs that will never get fixed and the random predatory functionality they keep adding. Low is generous.

So many people suck up for the better of two bad options. You can use it and still give it deserved criticism, you won't hurt it's (or the wealthy Firefox exec team's) feelings.

Gimp is love, gimp is life :) I have lost track of the years I have relied on that tool always being there when I need a quick edit or to modify some layers.

Firefox is literally backed by big tech though?

Plus all the (once valid) criticism about it not being professional is either solved or in the process of being solved (non destructive operations, high bit depth, cmyk...)

Openoffice -> LibreOffice

Seriously, don't use OpenOffice, it's abandoned for over 10 years.

Is there an office suite you had in mind that looks futuristic? Comparing a slightly old version of LibreOffice with a modern version of MS Office... They look pretty similar to me? (The gray document background in libreoffice is from me, it defaults to something closer to MS office).

Also @bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

Thanks, I'll have a look at that!

"Every machine has had the same history — a long record of sleepless nights and of poverty, of disillusions and of joys, of partial improvements discovered by several generations of nameless workers, who have added to the original invention these little nothings, without which the most fertile idea would remain fruitless. More than that: every new invention is a synthesis, the resultant of innumerable inventions which have preceded it in the vast field of mechanics and industry.

Science and industry, knowledge and application, discovery and practical realization leading to new discoveries, cunning of brain and of hand, toil of mind and muscle — all work together. Each discovery, each advance, each increase in the sum of human riches, owes its being to the physical and mental travail of the past and the present.

By what right then can any one whatever appropriate the least morsel of this immense whole and say — This is mine, not yours?"

-Peter Kropotkin, The Conquest of Bread

Why on earth is OpenOffice here??

LibreOffice is the maintained fork.

It has been that way for 16 years now.

16 years.

There are people working full time jobs who were born the same year that LibreOffice started.

Stop promoting OpenOffice.
People will have problems with it that have been long fixed in LibreOffice.

Edit: typo

They started selling user data and integrated AI

I haven't used Apple's suite much, but it's likely that LO could learn something from it, for the simple reason that Apple knows about the principles of grouping in design and thus never subscribed to the approach of ‘cram lots of buttons in the toolbars without spacing’.

However, changing the paradigm of the existing UI is probably a big ask.

LibreOffice's look stems in large part from the UI toolkit that they use. Which was guaranteed to look like Windows, since LO is made in Java, and is not gonna be changed easily.

Sure it’s great, but man Mozilla won’t get my money, same for Wikimedia

Mozilla is kind of a piece of shit company/foundation (it’s still better than most things out there)

Greedy and stuff, governance problems…

I've been learning FreeCAD recently and it's pretty incredible too!