We're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

This is so awesome!!

vendor collaboration is difficult to get right. hope it all goes well.

Same here!

Isn't Motorola a chinese company?

It's hard - to me at least - to believe that Motorola is allowed to provide a device without backdoor(s). What's the catch here?

Motorola Mobility is American, and a subsidiary of Lenovo who are Chinese.

A subsidiary of Lenovo

I loved my Moto devices. The first Droid was awesome with the slider. Feels like another world back then.

American is not better. Anybody remember Edward Snowden? I'm sure it's only gotten worse since then.

The US is far, far more of a threat than China even remotely is. That being said, I highly doubt the GOS devs would even consider any collaboration if a backdoor was ever a possibility.

Oh yeah, to be clear I was just clarifying the structure. I don't consider American companies to be any more trustworthy than companies based elsewhere.

I wanted to finally buy a pixel 10 this year. I guess that now i will be waiting to buy the real phone.

LETS GOOOOOO

The US is far, far more of a threat than China even remotely is

If you're American*

or any global north country, honestly, especially in the five eyes

there’s not much one could do to anger the chinese government enough for them to risk sending agents to kidnap or kill a westerner

all the US needs is a request to law enforcement

or any global north country, honestly, especially in the five eyes

I dunno what that means. US doesn't have jurisdiction outside the US, just like China doesn't have jurisdiction outside of China, so not a whole lot they can do to you. I have heard of Chinese kidnapping their own people who fled to the US, but I'm not sure how true that is.

all the US needs is a request to law enforcement

In the US, yes. Not even that, really.

The possibility of backdoors is unavoidable, and it's part of their threat model. It's why the mobile baseband is isolated, for example.

China having police stations in the europe for example is a bit much to me.

So does that mean that collaboration is done with American company and not Chinese company?

Simple answer is yes.

However, Lenovo have full legal and financial control over Motorola. But because Motorola is a subsidiary, it's legally distinct from its parent company. And because it's incorporated in the USA it has to be compliant with US law. So, for example, Lenovo is not permitted to compel Motorola to violate US law.

Not preinstalled software.

The same motorolla that supports IDF?

Noooooo Motorola

Hardware backdoors still exist.

For as long as major powers control the production of the majority of computing devices this will be true. But as far as I know there are no short term alternatives for completely open mobile device hardware... so if hardware backdoors are in your threat model then unfortunately mobile devices are not for you...better stick to the very small community of open hardware for laptop/desktop computers for your communication needs.

Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility are not the same. Motorola as a singular brand does not mean what it once did. The former spun off the latter and sold it. Mobile Phones are NOT a product of the firm with said ties.

I miss slifers!