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MajinBlayze lemmy.world MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
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This might age poorly, but wishful thinking, I think.

Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

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Pennomi lemmy.world pennomi@lemmy.world
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This might age poorly, but wishful thinking, I think. Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.
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denial feddit.org denial@feddit.org
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Don't let Trump do anything, if you can help it

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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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This might age poorly, but wishful thinking, I think. Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

oil skyrocketing in price and the economy and stock market taking a huge hit could cause the investments required to prop up the bubble to run out of steam

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Hylactor sopuli.xyz Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
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I think it's more like sending a second out of control train to catch the first one. There's no doubt eah train will crash, and that it will be bad, but now we have more variables as to which will crash first and how bad, with the exciting new possibility of each making each other worse than they would have been.

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felsiq piefed.zip felsiq@piefed.zip
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Don't let Trump do anything, if you can help it

Including breathe

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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Gas prices should increase the cost of running data centers but when did AI ever need a profitable business model

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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oil skyrocketing in price and the economy and stock market taking a huge hit could cause the investments required to prop up the bubble to run out of steam

Why would a war with Iran cause oil prices to skyrocket?

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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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Why would a war with Iran cause oil prices to skyrocket?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/saudi-aramco-shuts-ras-tanura-refinery-after-drone-strike-source-says-2026-03-02/

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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ThePantser sh.itjust.works ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
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Gas prices should increase the cost of running data centers but when did AI ever need a profitable business model

The power companies will just raise residential rates and cut the AI costs.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

oil skyrocketing in price and the economy and stock market taking a huge hit could cause the investments required to prop up the bubble to run out of steam
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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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Why would a war with Iran cause oil prices to skyrocket?

They already are.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Gas prices should increase the cost of running data centers but when did AI ever need a profitable business model
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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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Two things that have also failed to manifest, in large part thanks to the prolific state spending following COVID.

We're still only 3 days into this war. And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-sink-while-oil-prices-jump-as-iran-attacks-jolt-markets-235000934.html

Trump’s very obviously not going to do that.

Yes, agreed, this is very obvious. Because Trump does not have control over the interest rates.

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GorGor startrek.website GorGor@startrek.website
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I'm sorry, but it really bugs me that the small domino is a fucking war. While the big domino is depicted here as the AI bubble bursting.

At a minimum, it's a * poor use of the meme *, but really the priorities are just way out of whack.

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MajinBlayze lemmy.world MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
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#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

oil skyrocketing in price and the economy and stock market taking a huge hit could cause the investments required to prop up the bubble to run out of steam

The parts of the economy stock market that would be heavily impacted by oil prices are already in the gutter.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Two things that have also failed to manifest, in large part thanks to the prolific state spending following COVID. We're still only 3 days into this war. And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-sink-while-oil-prices-jump-as-iran-attacks-jolt-markets-235000934.html Trump’s...
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heartbreaker sh.itjust.works heartbreaker@sh.itjust.works
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I'm sorry, but it really bugs me that the small domino is a fucking war. While the big domino is depicted here as the AI bubble bursting. At a minimum, it's a * poor use of the meme *, but really the priorities are just way out of whack. *edit

I hereby formally apologize for the inaccuracy in my shitpost🧐

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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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The parts of the economy stock market that would be heavily impacted by oil prices are already in the gutter.

The parts of the economy that would be heavily impacted by oil prices

Literally all of it. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/oilpricesinflation.asp

are already in the gutter.

You're not wrong. Does not refute my claim though.

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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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I'll come back to this in 4 weeks. See you then 😉

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crunchy lemmy.dbzer0.com crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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It's okay, Trump signed that executive order telling them to provide their own power for data centers. Which means now our tax dollars won't just be used for data centers, they'll be used for power plants too. Another executive order or two and we'll see company towns come back.

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crunchy lemmy.dbzer0.com crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Makes you wonder if that was the idea. They used AI in the Venezuela attack, too.

There's also the betting market that Trump is very friendly towards, and we've already seen bets on military strikes pop up days before anyone knew about it, so someone's making money on insider info.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/saudi-aramco-shuts-ras-tanura-refinery-after-drone-strike-source-says-2026-03-02/

The prices are what they were in January, according to the article.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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I'll come back to this in 4 weeks. See you then 😉
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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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It's okay, Trump signed that executive order telling them to provide their own power for data centers. Which means now our tax dollars won't just be used for data centers, they'll be used for power plants too. Another executive order or two and we'll see company towns come back.
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crunchy lemmy.dbzer0.com crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Hence the sarcasm dripping from my statement.

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heartbreaker sh.itjust.works heartbreaker@sh.itjust.works
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The prices are what they were in January, according to the article.

The article is from yesterday, the prices went from 65$ to 70$ compared to yesterday. Not huge, but an increase.

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marcos lemmy.world marcos@lemmy.world
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I wouldn't take any kind of advice from Friedman...

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Tar_Alcaran sh.itjust.works Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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Nah, the DoD contract is also very likely running at a loss, like every other subscription.

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MajinBlayze lemmy.world MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
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The parts of the economy that would be heavily impacted by oil prices Literally all of it. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/oilpricesinflation.asp are already in the gutter. You're not wrong. Does not refute my claim though.

Segregate the market into "AI" and "non-AI" segments for simplicity.

Looking at the thousand or so "investors" who's money matters at this scale, there's no point in selling "non-AI" stock to fund "AI" investments already, these markets are already low. Adding the Iran war to that isn't changing anything.
More likely, they are borrowing against existing "AI" stock and reinvesting that (oversimplification, but speaking broadly). Additionally, one of the big sources of these loans is Saudi Arabia, which benefits from the higher oil prices.

The only other way in which oil prices impact "AI" is through energy costs, which impacts the immediate profitability of "AI", which "investors" have shown they are unconcerned with.

Or, to simplify,

Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Hence the sarcasm dripping from my statement.
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Tigeroovy lemmy.ca Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca
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Too many steps until then.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
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Praying for the burst 🙏

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VinegarChunks lemmus.org VinegarChunks@lemmus.org
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This might age poorly, but wishful thinking, I think. Nothing about the "AI" speculative bubble is likely to be impacted by the war in Iran.

Meme feels like

  1. Steal underpants. . .
  2. Profit!
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WanderingThoughts europe.pub WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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The pockets might be endless, but if you keep pulling stuff out without something real going in you end up pulling out handfuls of lint and nothing else.

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anomnom sh.itjust.works anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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It's okay, Trump signed that executive order telling them to provide their own power for data centers. Which means now our tax dollars won't just be used for data centers, they'll be used for power plants too. Another executive order or two and we'll see company towns come back.

It’s gonna be company towns with only 8 or 9 residents though. And only 2-3 will actually go into the data center.

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GorGor startrek.website GorGor@startrek.website
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I hereby formally apologize for the inaccuracy in my shitpost🧐

🫡

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floquant lemmy.dbzer0.com floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I have a bad feeling the MIC might prop up the bubble. It's been the US's "economy up" move for decades

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BananaIsABerry lemmy.zip BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
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I know this is a shitpost but damn, anti-AI dudes are really out here hoping that the killing of Iranians results in AI imploding

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Fedizen lemmy.world Fedizen@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

High gas prices killing AI was not on my bingo card but it is funny as fuck.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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Shut them all down

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Xerxos lemmy.ml Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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The thing is, the AI bubble is mainly a big fucking bet.

The bet is, that the new data centers will bring us AGI or even ASI.

As long as they haven't tested that theory it's unlikely that the bubble will burst - they just put too much money in there to fold now. It's "all in" for AI companies.

They hope that AI will take over most white collar work, and with robotics later most work overall.

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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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Datacenters getting terror attacks in 3...

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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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Well, it's been 4 weeks, so I'm back! Here's the S&P 500 over the last month, with no end to the Iran war in sight.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Well, it's been 4 weeks, so I'm back! Here's the S&P 500 over the last month, with no end to the Iran war in sight.
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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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Yeah 8% over 1 month is pretty huge. Not suggesting this will actually happen, but if the current trend continues at the same rate, it will be a 62% loss over a year.

A short period of time before the Iran war started, I pulled all my money out of the market and am 100% in CDs now. I didn't time the top perfectly, but that's never really my goal anyway, and I'm definitely beating the market right now with modest returns.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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Yeah 8% over 1 month is pretty huge. Not suggesting this will actually happen, but if the current trend continues at the same rate, it will be a 62% loss over a year. A short period of time before the Iran war started, I pulled all my money out of the market and am 100% in CDs now. I didn't time the top perfectly, but that's never really my goal anyway, and I'm definitely beating the market rig...
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theunknownmuncher lemmy.world theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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CD rates are shit right now, thanks to low interest rates.

Actually, they are really good. The interests rates have come down a bit from their peak, but aren't actually low at all compared to the last 10 years. There hasn't been a better time than the last 3 years to be in CDs since basically the 90s.

I am mainly in CDs due to external factors that make locked in returns over regular periods more attractive than other options, though.

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