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cm0002 lemmings.world cm0002@lemmings.world
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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

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kaprap leminal.space kaprap@leminal.space
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

You don't have to raise cows to have milk, you can literally use the same fiber (Soy, Hemp) to use industrially to make this plastic

Just because it says 'milk' doesn't mean 'dairy'

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SpikesOtherDog ani.social SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

I don't have an answer for the cost of life, but I have heard many times that milk and cheese is overly abundant in the USA.

I do agree that it should be much cheaper to use cellulose/plant composite for these things. The problem is sealing it.

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StinkyFingerItchyBum lemmy.ca Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

It is neat, and provides a backstop to prices and American dairy overproduction. It diversifies income streams for farmers, but yes at the cost of food. Remember the concerns of corn to ethanol. Food as fuel has human costs as does food as packaging.

Edit: and of course our plasticized environment is a total nightmare scenario.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
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I don't have an answer for the cost of life, but I have heard many times that milk and cheese is overly abundant in the USA. I do agree that it should be much cheaper to use cellulose/plant composite for these things. The problem is sealing it.

Yes, dairy is cheap in the US, only due to government subsidy.

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Ledivin lemmy.world Ledivin@lemmy.world
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You don't have to raise cows to have milk, you can literally use the same fiber (Soy, Hemp) to use industrially to make this plastic Just because it says 'milk' doesn't mean 'dairy'

Except they're using casein, which does mean 'dairy.'

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lettruthout lemmy.world lettruthout@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

Agreed, very quickly. So we can honestly say this idea aged like milk?

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Jokulhlaups lemmy.world Jokulhlaups@lemmy.world
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So now the plastic one can be marketed as vegan

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Drusas fedia.io Drusas@fedia.io
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It's great to find alternatives to plastic, but could we focus on them not requiring animal products? Dairy cows live horrible lives (usually) and raising them is bad for the environment.

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Usernamealreadyinuse lemmy.world Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world
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So now the plastic one can be marketed as vegan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism

Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals

So actually, no

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LumpyPancakes piefed.social BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social
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Soon to be adopted by BMW for their cooling systems?

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals So actually, no

i dont think you have good reading comprehension.

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deafboy lemmy.world deafboy@lemmy.world
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

Couldn't we use some yeast or e-coli instead of cows?

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zero_spelled_with_an_ecks programming.dev zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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Couldn't we use some yeast or e-coli instead of cows?

There's already mushroom packaging, I can't imagine it would be much of a leap to plates.

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
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Couldn't we use some yeast or e-coli instead of cows?

I would hope so, but no dairy alternative has seemed to replicate milk protein properly. But I'm sure there will be q day to replicate it almost exactly as it is.

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smh slrpnk.net smh@slrpnk.net
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals So actually, no

I get you. The person you responded to talked about "the plastic one" and meant the old style non-milk plastic one, but the milk plastic one is also a "plastic one". It was a tad unclear.

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
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You don't have to raise cows to have milk, you can literally use the same fiber (Soy, Hemp) to use industrially to make this plastic Just because it says 'milk' doesn't mean 'dairy'

It said milk protein, they were specifically talking about dairy milk, and not soy protien

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chicken lemmy.dbzer0.com chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally

Probably more associated greenhouse gas emissions than the plastic one

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GorGor startrek.website GorGor@startrek.website
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Milk based plastic was one of the first man made plastics produced back in 1890. Not 1980, 1890.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_plastic_development

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