No dangerous cancers, though.
None of the mice have ever died from it.

c/shittyyoushouldknow

Mice aren’t meant for too much of ANYTHING. A friend in ChemE said the mice that got cancer from saccharin (Sweet N Low) were the size of plates, they had gained so many calories from such a large dose.

A dinner plate? They're not researching cancer, they're trying to master pokemon evolutions

lol

Indeed. By which I mean, where are the controls? How could a control even exist for such an experiment? Any non-research mouse becomes research by default.

And blah blah blah that's what they want you to think. lol

There was a West Wing joke somewhat similar to this.

Margaret: Red meat has been found to cause cancer in white rats. Maraschino cherries have been found to cause cancer in white rats. Cellular phones have been found to cause cancer in white rats. Has anyone examined the possibility that cancer might be hereditary in white rats?

Surgeon General Millicent Griffith: Let me tell you something, I'm not a hundred percent sure we've ruled that out.

100% of people that drink water and eat food die over the long term.

Would you be willing to let your children risk dying from this spurious correlation?

Reminds me of a recent xkcd: https://xkcd.com/3201

The only part of that show I remember is one guy realizing that the stray dog he found thought its name was Damnit.

no, but if they drink Monster and eat meat they won't turn gay.

The sad part is that you're not too far off from many fields of research. For example, research in neurodegenerative diseases in humans tested on mouse models means acquiring mice with diseases that they can't get. So, you instead use gene-edited or generically engineered mice that are designed to exhibit all of the symptoms of a human neurodegenerative disease, and then try changing those symptoms in the mice in hopes that you'll learn something that can be translated to humans.

99.99% sure you are thinking of a different show.

Shit, it was JAG I think.

Rodent model studies are mostly done in very inbred mouse models. Toxicity and cancer data is typically done at doses a human could not possibly get in a lifetime.

Remember when BPA was a hormone in plastic? BPA was originally a failed attempt to make a synthetic hormone, the only way they could see anything like a hormone effects was when they injected huge amounts into rodent muscles. People went stupid with media driven fear.

Junk science is a waste of time and money.

See I posted a joke from an early 2000s television show, and then you posted all that.

I don't need any leeched chemical in my stuff.
Doesnt matter if it's "safe".

I
Don't
Want
It
In
My
Body
!