It's pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones... on WINDOWS.

Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.

(Both laptops are reasonably new.)

Yeah, but does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot? Huh?

Checkmate, linux nerds!

To be fair, a lot of bluetooth headphone problems i had on my work laptop was just microsoft teams.

Back in 2021 I remeber I had several issues with bluethooth audio, now it just works as soon as I take my headphones out of the case (even tho KDE says Bluethooth is disabled everytime)

It's Microslop's Artificial Idiocy

LOL Yeah, I mean Linux has always had audio problems, but I find that I can solve Linux related ones mine faster than on Windows (when I used that garbage). The time it took grew smaller as my knowledge grew. Pulseaudio will randomly shit the bed and take Alsa with it. So about three terminal commands and 5 minutes later my sound is often repaired. It is weird that a billions of dollars sort of company can't get that shit right or make it a speedy fix at the very least. The troubleshooting tool would take fucking forever and often shit the bed. Touching the Powershell was cursed, but Linux made the terminal a blessed experience!

Linux audio issues were common during the transition to PulseAudio, but that was almost 20 years ago now.

Strange, Bluedevil has been working consistently for a while. What Plasma version are you running?

I'm on 6.5 now.

In 2021 I was using a laptop with a different chipset, now I'm using one of those cheap USB Bluethooth dongles you find on Amazon for 5$

Between my Linux laptop, my window gaming computer, and my apple work laptop I never have audio issues.

does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot?

Nope. If for some incredibly bonkers reason I actually wanted to use it, I'd have to actually -- gasp! -- go to a website and talk to it through a website interface, rather than an interface directly integrated into every goddamn app on my own computer. That's like ... two, maybe even three extra clicks!

(Seriously, though. If for some reason I wanted to talk to a chatbot, I could do that on the chatbot's website. Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?)

I was about to say... Maybe I've just been lucky, but I haven't had the slightest issue with Linux audio. Ever.

My Sony Sennheiser Momentum 4 always say loudly "No connection" after I connect them, but they are connected. It doesn't annoy me too much though.

I use Mint btw

I mean honestly 😬 it still kinda sucks compared to Windows. Less problems on Windows vs my Linux laptop.
Do they mean wired headphones? Because I use Fedora on my framework 13 and my bluetooth headphones just do not want to play sometimes. It works after some reconnecting and switching outputs.
Or my bluetooth keyboard is just not connecting sometimes. And I have to "forget" it and re-pair it.
Sometimes I think a lot of my colleagues or friends with Linux systems just get used to rolling with punches/issues because it feels better to be working on Linux. At least I don't have to click away stupid full screen Microsoft Account reminders etc.

That's a driver thing, so it's wrong to blame Windows for this, when the drivers probably aren't even made by Microsoft.

Sony momentum 4?

Surely you mean Sennheiser Momentum 4 or Sony WH-1000XM4?

f you have wired or properly standards compliant bluetooth headphones it works fine on both.

If you have (cheapo) non-compliant stuff it's a crapshoot on both, but there's more likely some drivers to make up the difference on windows, whereas on linux you're deep diving obscure crap, it can be done, but is it really worth the effort?

If it's musical instruments, especially midi, you're often better off on linux these days, but you might have to pay for a DAW and some commercial plugins are hit or miss.

just got a new laptop and wanted to boot into windows once so i could make sure bitlocker was off and i had to go through 15 minutes of clicking decline on upsells for 365 vs clicking on install linux mint from the live usb and being yes install

I have to "forget" it and re-pair it.

If you're dual-booting, you need to sync the Bluetooth pairing keys between Windows and Linux.

Why would standard Bluetooth audio profiles need some specialty drivers?

PipeWire (written by Wim Taymans) did a lot of good for the Linux distro ecosystem when it comes to audio.

Right, I assumed we're talking about jack sensing

Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?

The rate at which every security practice is being torn down for the sake of clankers is giving me suicidal tendencies. Surely you will not regret giving the token-based randomness machine root access!

I doubt it even more that the ‘audio plug is connected’ event is reliant on software.

Sennheiser of course, thx

And don't worry, the mega-corp that has constantly lied about things in the past promises that all the data from the integrated app that gets sent back to company HQ only gets used for training better chatbots (probably) (maybe) (possibly) (unless it's, like really good blackmail material). And every single thing you've ever typed into Notepad surely isn't just sitting there on a company server, waiting for a subpoena from an increasingly authoritarian government to gain access to...

(And, of course, that program you coded in Notepad? The fact that it was used to train Microsoft's next chatbot, which then went on to magically write code strikingly similar to yours to be integrated into the next Microslop project without notifying or compensating you in any way ... purely coincidental, of course. It's not stealing -- it's training. Running it through a chatbot first magically removes all copyright protection from your code.)

Then believe me it is

Ha!

My work laptop is mandated win11.

I have working headphones.

I have working headphones set that go through a dock and through a KVM and through 20 feet of USB and three chained hubs between said laptop and my earballs.

They also switch beautifully over to the Nobara (fedora) I've installed, and even back to this ancient ring-fenced win7 physical I have.

Hell; I only had issues last year because I got a janky USB extension and the Dell cube dock is a piece of actual shit and the two couldn't cope.

What do I win with a ugreen usb3 sound dev and an apple 3.5mm earpods headphones plugged in? I mean, aside from a working comms rig.

And they continued until the transition to Pipewire.

I imagine it's rephrased "Copilot".

Hm? Why would it be?

Afaik wired audio is a solved problem since the introduction of the AC'97 standard in, fittingly, 1997. Which, as it happens, relies on an audio controller that sits between the hardware and the OS. Major OSes have been shipped with standard drivers for AC'97 support for the past twenty-nine years or thereabouts.

This leads me to believe that the OP is talking about Bluetooth, still rather wonky between different software stacks.

Oh the idiocy is very real

I have some bad news, they never worked like that, because bluetooth profiles suck ass. I bet your memory of them working in the past used the laptop mic.

Either that or some aptx nonsense.

Where is this meme from?

Ha, I'm not dual booting :)

The movie "Legally Blonde." Reese Witherspoon's character gets into Harvard to be closer with the male, her ex.

He, astonished, asks for clarification if she got into Harvard, and she responds with the bottom text.

I run Ubuntu on a laptop that isn't officially supported by Ubuntu (Thinkbook 16 G7) and it works better than W11

I've been using Linux as my main operating system since 2010 and can't recall having any audio issues. My desktop has 5 sound cards and they all work fine. I don't use bluethooth for audio, so I guess that makes things easier.

Uh huh uh huh uh huh... call me when ALSAmixer is no longer needed to unmute the TOSLINK output on a new install because who the fuck knows why it's muted by default in ALSA and that setting is not surfaced anywhere in the UI.

Windows keep re-enabling my second monitor after I disabled it, I had to disconnect video cable but in Linux it work just fine (dual boot)

Simping pipe wire ... That's a choice.

I remember the times before pipewire, not that fun.

Yet more fun than using microslops slop

What is any of this?

So real. Never have audio issues on my Linux PC.

Meanwhile my company issue ThinkPad just doesn’t want to work with any Bluetooth audio input. I can’t take work calls from any other device either due to IT policy…

I'm simping pipewire all day, that shit works flawless and is a godsend after years of pulse.

I did IT for my company on the side of my job for a year or two.

Prolific problem where windows would disable the microphone but every single "windows tool" said it was working perfectly fine except teams would say it was not available.

The only possible fix that someone on the internet found was to download an old sketchy file from a 3rd party source for an archived version of their "pre-help-assistant AI slop" audio troubleshooter, and run that and it would immediately say "oh, it is disabled, let me re-enable it for you"

Even though every tool, setting, and even registry said it was enabled.

Microsoft has the worst audio.

To be fair, a lot of bluetooth headphone problems i had on my work laptop was just that other terrible Microslop product.

Ok that may be the reason. You can find M.2 modules from Intel or Qualcomm at reasonable price which support Bluetooth 5.4+