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theherk lemmy.world theherk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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Following in the footsteps of Hashicorp, Hudson, etc. Zed has chosen to cash in the good will of its now substantial user base and start going to full corporate enshittification. Among other things like minimum age nonsense, they have also added binding mandatory opt-OUT arbitration.

I find such agreements very troubling, because it gives up public funded dispute resolution for private which nearly unanimously benefits larger entities, it lowers transparency to near zero, and eliminates the abilities to act as a class and to appeal. But I worry most will just accept it, as is the norm.

You can however opt out by emailing arbitration-opt-out@zed.dev with full legal name, the email address associated with your account, and a statement that you want to opt out.

I'll just consider my days of advocating for Zed as an interesting new editor over and go back to Neovim bliss.

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Bienenvolk feddit.org Bienenvolk@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-25
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Didn't read bc busy but wanted to drop this: https://lobste.rs/s/yyqowj/gram_zed_fork_without_all_ai

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theherk lemmy.world theherk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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Didn't read bc busy but wanted to drop this: https://lobste.rs/s/yyqowj/gram_zed_fork_without_all_ai

Nice. This is one of a few promising forks. I think they’re on Codeberg too.

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Chais sh.itjust.works Chais@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Zed always felt fishy to me.

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Tywèle piefed.social Tywele@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-08-08
#5 · Quote Reply

I guess I will uninstall Zed now.

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NotSteve_ piefed.ca NotSteve_@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-06-07
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God fucking damn it, I've been a massive Zed advocate and this is extremely saddening. I went as far as convincing my teammates to use it over VSCode and have had a personal subscription to their AI service, partly just to support them

Why can't we have a single nice thing? I'll continue to use it after opting out but I'll be back to the same feeling of reluctance I had when I used Code.

Hopefully we'll see a fork of the project

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slacktoid lemmy.ml slacktoid@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-08-18
#7 · Quote Reply

Seems like it only matters if you login to their service.

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

</\Vader voice>We Overhauled Our Terms of Service, pray we don't overhaul it any further</Vader voice>

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theherk lemmy.world theherk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#9 · Quote Reply

Seems like it only matters if you login to their service.

It also matters if you value organizations changing terms after attracting a community and changing to non-transparent solutions while claiming to be “open”. It matters if your values are different.

But you’re right too. If not logging in, your liability is probably not changing.

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slacktoid lemmy.ml slacktoid@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-08-18
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It also matters if you value organizations changing terms after attracting a community and changing to non-transparent solutions while claiming to be “open”. It matters if your values are different. But you’re right too. If not logging in, your liability is probably not changing.

I do agree with that overall principle. I am not a fan of the arbitration clause.

But it's an open source project, I'm not paying them apart from donations. And theyre mainly GPL+AGPL+Apache. So I'm not worried, id be more concerned of they moved to a more permissive license.
And you can run your own instance of their backend server for realtime collaboration.

All things considered I am not too concerned right now, but I will be watching for more signs of problematic behavior.

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deltaspawn0040 lemmy.zip deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-11-25
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God fucking damn it, I've been a massive Zed advocate and this is extremely saddening. I went as far as convincing my teammates to use it over VSCode and have had a personal subscription to their AI service, partly just to support them Why can't we have a single nice thing? I'll continue to use it after opting out but I'll be back to the same feeling of reluctance I had when I used Code. Hopefu...

We have a nice thing, it's called Emacs. You're not gonna find a for-profit company that will put your experience before its profits. That is impossible by definition. It really sucks.

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