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irelephant [he/him] programming.dev irelephant@programming.dev
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bleistift2 sopuli.xyz bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port.

I hate laptop manufacturers.

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bizarroland lemmy.world bizarroland@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
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3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port. I hate laptop manufacturers.

That's a Lenovo E480. There are two other USB-A and a USB-C and HDMI on the other side, plus you can't see behind the dongles but there's an ethernet port on the laptop as well.

I only have two complaints with what I'm looking at. One is there's probably not enough power for whatever you have connected to all of those USB things. And two, there's not enough support for the port that you're plugging this into to resist the weight of all of the dongles, which could damage the motherboard.

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#4 · Quote Reply

So does each successive one become slower or how does that work?

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Jackusflackus lemmy.world Jackusflackus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

So does each successive one become slower or how does that work?

Probably not a ton, the controller can handle a quite a bit. Really depends what you are doing with each cable. If all are transferring data to a separate thing on each cable then yes it could be bad. Power is more of the problem, only has so much juice per slot. If those are all phone charger cables, possible hardly any of them actually charging a device.

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Aneb lemmy.world Aneb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-28
#6 · Quote Reply

Me stacking my deck with 'Draw 2 cards' with no damage or money cards in my hand

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#7 · Quote Reply

Probably not a ton, the controller can handle a quite a bit. Really depends what you are doing with each cable. If all are transferring data to a separate thing on each cable then yes it could be bad. Power is more of the problem, only has so much juice per slot. If those are all phone charger cables, possible hardly any of them actually charging a device.

I imagine power is split evenly. I wonder if speed is split evenly or successively slower.

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Ceruleum lemmy.wtf Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-02-04
#8 · Quote Reply

This is art.

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ThePantser sh.itjust.works ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-02-19
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Would be a lot less cursed if they used a USBA extension so they could rest on a table.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
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That's a Lenovo E480. There are two other USB-A and a USB-C and HDMI on the other side, plus you can't see behind the dongles but there's an ethernet port on the laptop as well. I only have two complaints with what I'm looking at. One is there's probably not enough power for whatever you have connected to all of those USB things. And two, there's not enough support for the port that you're plug...

It's plugged into the USB port not the motherboard.

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๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐ŸŒ€ ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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Me stacking my deck with 'Draw 2 cards' with no damage or money cards in my hand

Pot of Greed, Pot of Greed, Pot of Greed, I ASSEMBLE EXODIA. I WIN.

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bizarroland lemmy.world bizarroland@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
#12 · Quote Reply

It's plugged into the USB port not the motherboard.

The USB port is attached to the motherboard.

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bizarroland lemmy.world bizarroland@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
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I imagine power is split evenly. I wonder if speed is split evenly or successively slower.

USB can handle 127 daisy chained items. However, there's like an absolute maximum of the amount of data and power that can go over any one USB port.

Assuming this is USB 3, that would typically be capped somewhere around 5 gigabits per second and usually, 5 to 15 watts of power, so they would all have to divvy up that between themselves.

USB is pretty smart, so it probably won't automatically divide down based on the number of attached items like Wifi used to and instead the controllers should dole out the in-out requests on an as needed basis.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#14 · Quote Reply

The USB port is attached to the motherboard.

And the leg bone connected to the knee bone.

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dohpaz42 lemmy.world dohpaz42@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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It's plugged into the USB port not the motherboard.

What do you think will break first with enough downward force? The port, or the motherboard solder joints holding the weight?

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#16 · Quote Reply

What do you think will break first with enough downward force? The port, or the motherboard solder joints holding the weight?

No this is a schooner.

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bitcrafter programming.dev bitcrafter@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-12-09
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It's not even an balanced tree! What a monster!

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Remember_the_tooth lemmy.world Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-23
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It's plugged into the USB port not the motherboard.

I hope you're remembered like Ken M. I always find these funny, even when, or perhaps especially when, they don't land well in the thread.

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azimir lemmy.ml azimir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#19 · Quote Reply

It's not even an balanced tree! What a monster!

I know a degraded binary search tree when I see one. Stop inserting presorted data you yabbos! Otherwise, you'll need to pull out a Red-Black tree and nobody's got time for those kinds of rotations.

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azimir lemmy.ml azimir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#20 · Quote Reply

That's a Lenovo E480. There are two other USB-A and a USB-C and HDMI on the other side, plus you can't see behind the dongles but there's an ethernet port on the laptop as well. I only have two complaints with what I'm looking at. One is there's probably not enough power for whatever you have connected to all of those USB things. And two, there's not enough support for the port that you're plug...

What if they're external drives with their own power supplies? I've done things nearly this convoluted, but used self powered devices.

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Deacon lemmy.world deacon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#21 · Quote Reply

And the leg bone connected to the knee bone.

There is a generic leg bone?

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Deacon lemmy.world deacon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#22 · Quote Reply

I hope you're remembered like Ken M. I always find these funny, even when, or perhaps especially when, they don't land well in the thread.

I will never not upvote the โ€˜Fart

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Ziglin (it/they) lemmy.world Ziglin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#23 · Quote Reply

There is a generic leg bone?

Yup totally it probably just means femur, tibia, or fibula.

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bizarroland lemmy.world bizarroland@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
#24 · Quote Reply

What if they're external drives with their own power supplies? I've done things nearly this convoluted, but used self powered devices.

Then you're just constrained by the data bandwidth

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Jackusflackus lemmy.world Jackusflackus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#25 · Quote Reply

I imagine power is split evenly. I wonder if speed is split evenly or successively slower.

Not really, it depends on what each device is doing. There is a shared aggregate bandwidth to draw from. Itโ€™s not a 50/50 type of thing

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ulterno programming.dev ulterno@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-11-12
#26 · Quote Reply

And the leg bone connected to the knee bone.

Ohh! Now I get why my knees hurt when I stomp my feet!

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#27 · Quote Reply

Ohh! Now I get why my knees hurt when I stomp my feet!

No thatโ€™s because youโ€™re old.

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๐ŸŒž Alexander Daychilde ๐ŸŒž lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#28 · Quote Reply

There is a generic leg bone?

duh, do you not know the song? idiot

(I'm kidding) <3

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๐ŸŒž Alexander Daychilde ๐ŸŒž lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#29 · Quote Reply

USB can handle 127 daisy chained items. However, there's like an absolute maximum of the amount of data and power that can go over any one USB port. Assuming this is USB 3, that would typically be capped somewhere around 5 gigabits per second and usually, 5 to 15 watts of power, so they would all have to divvy up that between themselves. USB is pretty smart, so it probably won't automatically d...

I really wish there was a way to find where someone legitimately has a need to nest, like, 16 levels of USB devices and find out WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM. But also what possible legitimate need might force such a nightmare. lol.

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InFerNo lemmy.ml InFerNo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

So does each successive one become slower or how does that work?

The bus is shared so yes. Theoretically you can daisy chain 127 devices.

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db_null lemmy.dbzer0.com db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-02-16
#31 · Quote Reply

3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port. I hate laptop manufacturers.

I wish.. unpopular opinion but I love Apple's approach with the MBAir. I want a skinny device with 2-3 C Ports max.

I'm done with USB A, on the rare occasion I need it I gladly use an adapter to improve portability the other 90% of the time.
Any hardware made for Linux by non-US companies has several A ports, a few C, ethernet, HDMI, SD card... nope, I got a tower with all the ports. My portable should stay portable.

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OldChicoAle lemmy.world OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-26
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I wish.. unpopular opinion but I love Apple's approach with the MBAir. I want a skinny device with 2-3 C Ports max. I'm done with USB A, on the rare occasion I need it I gladly use an adapter to improve portability the other 90% of the time. Any hardware made for Linux by non-US companies has several A ports, a few C, ethernet, HDMI, SD card... nope, I got a tower with all the ports. My portabl...

My dell is that. Runs Mint rn

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FalschgeldFurkan lemmy.world FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-09
#33 · Quote Reply

Stairway to USB heaven

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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-16
#34 · Quote Reply

3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port. I hate laptop manufacturers.

You guys got 32 gigs of memory?

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db_null lemmy.dbzer0.com db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-02-16
#35 · Quote Reply

My dell is that. Runs Mint rn

Good to know Dell makes these. I am running CachyOS on the 2020 Intel MacBook Air and it's okay.. she runs a bit hot, so battery life is about half of what I would get with macOS.

As much as I like the look of Apple hardware, I despise them locking everything down. I'm glad there are smart people out there, like the Asahi project, cracking those macs open.

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azimir lemmy.ml azimir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#36 · Quote Reply

Then you're just constrained by the data bandwidth

I'm quite familiar with that one.

The worst one was the pre Raspberry Pi 3 boards. The early ones used an on board Ethernet chip set that was slaved directly to the USB controller. It was USB 2.0 so it could negotiate 100, but really run much less than that.

Then, if you put in a keyboard, mouse, and a USB thumb drive the USB host would multiplex over them and your bandwidth for data transfer would drop precipitously.

I was so happy when they moved to a real Ethernet chip instead of a USB adapter. The new limitation became the microSD... Of course they also introduced the grounding reset issue on the USB port, but just don't plus or unplug anything and it'd be fine.

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FosterMolasses leminal.space FosterMolasses@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-01-17
#37 · Quote Reply

Pot of Greed, Pot of Greed, Pot of Greed, I ASSEMBLE EXODIA. I WIN.

EXODIA?! I-IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

NO ONE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM!

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FosterMolasses leminal.space FosterMolasses@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-01-17
#38 · Quote Reply

Alright but what would you need this many for? I can't wrap my head around it

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Honytawk discuss.tchncs.de Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-02-20
#39 · Quote Reply

I wish.. unpopular opinion but I love Apple's approach with the MBAir. I want a skinny device with 2-3 C Ports max. I'm done with USB A, on the rare occasion I need it I gladly use an adapter to improve portability the other 90% of the time. Any hardware made for Linux by non-US companies has several A ports, a few C, ethernet, HDMI, SD card... nope, I got a tower with all the ports. My portabl...

USB-C isn't a straight upgrade of USB-A though. Both have their pros and cons.

USB-C has much higher bandwidth and allows more power draw. 2 nice features, but totally useless on something like a mouse.

USB-A is soo much cheaper and more sturdy. A much better connector for simple peripherals like mouses and keyboards.

So a laptop with only USB-C is quite dumb. It costs nothing to add a couple of USB-A ports, and it will save you a lot of money.

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dev_null lemmy.ml dev_null@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-01-07
#40 · Quote Reply

Alright but what would you need this many for? I can't wrap my head around it

Flashing firmware to many devices at once maybe.

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Digit lemmy.wtf Digit@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2023-10-29
#41 · Quote Reply

Alright but what would you need this many for? I can't wrap my head around it

Keyboard, mouse, wacom tablet, external hard drive, another external hard drive thing, plasma lighter charger, ... Yup, that's what I have here... already got that many, before needing more space for pendrives.

Though, I use a single 1-6(or more) expander hub. I'm sensible like that.

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Digit lemmy.wtf Digit@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2023-10-29
#42 · Quote Reply

3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port. I hate laptop manufacturers.

For over 17 years or so, I've envisioned a laptop (and, later, also SBC) design where the entire sides are jam packed with usb ports.

Your hate reinvigorates this idea, knowing other people also hate the shortage of usb ports on laptop designs.

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FireRetardant lemmy.world FireRetardant@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#43 · Quote Reply

Keyboard, mouse, wacom tablet, external hard drive, another external hard drive thing, plasma lighter charger, ... Yup, that's what I have here... already got that many, before needing more space for pendrives. Though, I use a single 1-6(or more) expander hub. I'm sensible like that.

Plus a wired game pad, secondary gaming specific keyboard, a phone charger, a wireless phone charger, a thumb drive, a gaming specific mouse, a racing rig, and a little usb fan.

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Constant Pain lemmy.world ConstantPain@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-04
#44 · Quote Reply

So does each successive one become slower or how does that work?

The problem here is not even speed, it is the current draw.

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db_null lemmy.dbzer0.com db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-02-16
#45 · Quote Reply

USB-C isn't a straight upgrade of USB-A though. Both have their pros and cons. USB-C has much higher bandwidth and allows more power draw. 2 nice features, but totally useless on something like a mouse. USB-A is soo much cheaper and more sturdy. A much better connector for simple peripherals like mouses and keyboards. So a laptop with only USB-C is quite dumb. It costs nothing to add a couple o...

And luckily there are plenty of options out there for people who want to attach peripherals to their laptops.
I'm just not one of them.

My ideal device has two C ports on each side and a solid trackpad like the mac books do, just without all the apple bullshit of locking stuff down. @tuxedocomputers, pretty please ๐Ÿ‘€

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ulterno programming.dev ulterno@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-11-12
#46 · Quote Reply

No thatโ€™s because youโ€™re old.

But then shouldn't it just be my foot that hurts?
What does it have to do with my knee?
It is yet to take an arrow.

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RamenJunkie midwest.social RamenJunkie@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-01-24
#47 · Quote Reply

Plus a wired game pad, secondary gaming specific keyboard, a phone charger, a wireless phone charger, a thumb drive, a gaming specific mouse, a racing rig, and a little usb fan.

Also HOTAS Rig for space sims.

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AgentOrangesicle lemmy.world AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#48 · Quote Reply

I'm not usually that kinda guy, but 5 volts is 5 volts.

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Fiery lemmy.dbzer0.com Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-08
#49 · Quote Reply

3000โ‚ฌ, 1000 GB HDD, 32GB RAM, 15" screen, 1 port. I hate laptop manufacturers.

Hey it's fine if you have a docking station which totally defeats the purpose of a laptop.

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sploosh lemmy.world sploosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-07
#50 · Quote Reply

Hey it's fine if you have a docking station which totally defeats the purpose of a laptop.

Portability? If you want a desktop replacement laptop, don't buy one with a single USB port. If you want a machine you can easily carry, has a keyboard and can run a slide deck? 1 USB port and Bluetooth will get you there.

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ChaoticNeutralCzech feddit.org ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#51 · Quote Reply

The USB port is attached to the motherboard.

Not always. Some laptops use a daughterboard for ports on one side. It might be connected over USB 3.0 and contain one or more USB ports, a SD reader and even audio jack.

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