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BrikoX lemmy.zip BrikoX@lemmy.zip
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The updated Denza Z9 GT can drive up to 1036 km (644 miles) on a single charge, the Chinese automaker says.

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finalarbiter lemmy.dbzer0.com finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

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Sunshine (she/her) lemmy.ca Sunshine@lemmy.ca
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+22.53km from the last record.

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
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#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

I've seen a dozen or so BYDs on Phoenix streets the past couple years.

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redbrick lemmy.world redbrick@lemmy.world
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I've seen a dozen or so BYDs on Phoenix streets the past couple years.

really?!? Pics or it didn't happen. :-)

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Ricky Rigatoni piefed.zip RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip
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The american auto industry isn't even attempting to keep pace. They're just pretending the EV shift isn't happening and ICE engines will last forever.

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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#7 · Quote Reply

The US industry isn’t actually trying to make better EVs anymore.

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finalarbiter lemmy.dbzer0.com finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

I've seen a dozen or so BYDs on Phoenix streets the past couple years.

It's probably possible to import from Canada and/or Mexico, though I imagine registering and insuring them is a hassle.

Edit: Turns out they're not available in Canada yet

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eatCasserole lemmy.world eatCasserole@lemmy.world
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#9 · Quote Reply

Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

...which is exactly why you can't have 'em!

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Lemmyoutofhere lemmy.ca Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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#10 · Quote Reply

It's probably possible to import from Canada and/or Mexico, though I imagine registering and insuring them is a hassle. Edit: Turns out they're not available in Canada yet

None in Canada….yet.

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fubarx lemmy.world fubarx@lemmy.world
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#11 · Quote Reply

644 miles means you could make it from Boston to Pittsburgh, San Francisco to San Diego, or London to Hanover with one charge... and plenty left over.

😔

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Beacon fedia.io Beacon@fedia.io
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644 miles means you could make it from Boston to Pittsburgh, San Francisco to San Diego, or London to Hanover with one charge... and plenty left over. 😔

Nyc to dc, then dc to nyc, and then nyc to dc yet again all on a single charge

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

644 miles I assume is at 100%, so longevity charging (80%) is 515 miles. That’s a really “take your EV car on a long trip” or “park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day, so you could feasibly leave it somewhere for a while when you get 515 miles range.

Man, really wished we had something like that at a reasonable cost in the US. I travel for work and have to leave my car idle for long periods, no EV charger in sight. Range like that would be perfect.

Edit: I don’t have an EV. The 1-2% is reported by industry reporters that state that battery conditioning, management, video systems, and system telemetry can consume up to 1-2% per day.

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PrimeErective startrek.website PrimeErective@startrek.website
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The american auto industry isn't even attempting to keep pace. They're just pretending the EV shift isn't happening and ICE engines will last forever.

Maybe they were using the GPS satellites to find an ATM machine, but couldn't remember their PIN number

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finalarbiter lemmy.dbzer0.com finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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None in Canada….yet.

I thought I had read somewhere that Canada was going to allow like 50k chinese EVs to be sold each year starting this year or something along those lines

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

644 miles I assume is at 100%, so longevity charging (80%) is 515 miles. That’s a really “take your EV car on a long trip” or “park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day, so you could feasibly leave it somewhere for a while when you get 515 miles range. Man, really wished we had something like that at a reasonable cost in the US. I travel for work an...

“park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day

They really shouldn't. If yours does, something's wrong. You should take it in.

I specifically left mine in an airport parking lot for a week. The high voltage main battery didn't loose even 1%.

The basic internal electronics are powered by an old school 12v battery. It should be able to keep the parked car alive for a few weeks at least. Even if the 12v dies, a simple "jump start" from any other car will let you turn it on again and get home. Just like in an ICE car, the 12v battery will charge while you're driving.

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Cort lemmy.world Cort@lemmy.world
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“park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day They really shouldn't. If yours does, something's wrong. You should take it in. I specifically left mine in an airport parking lot for a week. The high voltage main battery didn't loose even 1%. The basic internal electronics are powered by an old school 12v battery. It should be able to keep the parked car...

Some of the cars with parking surveillance can use a lot of electricity when parked in a busier area with a lot of movement

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Ricky Rigatoni piefed.zip RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip
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#18 · Quote Reply

Maybe they were using the GPS satellites to find an ATM machine, but couldn't remember their PIN number

I can't just say ICE with everything going on right now.

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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Maybe they were using the GPS satellites to find an ATM machine, but couldn't remember their PIN number

The S in GPS is for "system", not for "satellite": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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#20 · Quote Reply

I can't just say ICE with everything going on right now.

ICE won't last forever, that much is true; not even if it's about engines.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

I mean I'll import one from Canada if that's all it takes

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#22 · Quote Reply

644 miles means you could make it from Boston to Pittsburgh, San Francisco to San Diego, or London to Hanover with one charge... and plenty left over. 😔

I was going to say, the Sacramento to Portland I do regularly is just under 600 miles

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
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#23 · Quote Reply

Some of the cars with parking surveillance can use a lot of electricity when parked in a busier area with a lot of movement

That'll just kill the 12v faster. Won't change with the range of the high volt battery.

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PabloSexcrowbar piefed.social PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social
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That'll just kill the 12v faster. Won't change with the range of the high volt battery.

The main battery will have to charge the 12v battery once the latter gets low enough though

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
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#25 · Quote Reply

The main battery will have to charge the 12v battery once the latter gets low enough though

That won't happen while the car is parked. The 12v will just die like I said, and you'll need a jump start.

When you start the car and activate the high volt battery it will power the 12v system, including charging the 12v battery. But only once you start the car.

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answersplease77 lemmy.world answersplease77@lemmy.world
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#26 · Quote Reply

BYD leaving Tesla in the dust

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Xbeam lemmy.world Xbeam@lemmy.world
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#27 · Quote Reply

That won't happen while the car is parked. The 12v will just die like I said, and you'll need a jump start. When you start the car and activate the high volt battery it will power the 12v system, including charging the 12v battery. But only once you start the car.

I have an Ionic 6. The main battery keeps the 12 volt properly charged while parked. It doesn't just let it die.

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ramble81 lemmy.zip ramble81@lemmy.zip
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#28 · Quote Reply

644 miles I assume is at 100%, so longevity charging (80%) is 515 miles. That’s a really “take your EV car on a long trip” or “park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day, so you could feasibly leave it somewhere for a while when you get 515 miles range. Man, really wished we had something like that at a reasonable cost in the US. I travel for work an...

lose 1-2%/day

Um, there’s something wrong with your car. I can leave mine for almost a week at times and the milage is still the same as when I charged it and unplugged it.

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quick_snail feddit.nl quick_snail@feddit.nl
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

What's that range after 20 years of daily use?

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bstix feddit.dk bstix@feddit.dk
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#30 · Quote Reply

I hope the evolution of battery capacity keeps up, so one day we can buy a car that is simply pre-charged for 10000 km or more.

The increase from 100 to 1000 came about in a decade. I wonder what the limitations are.

Meanwhile the fuel efficiency for combustion engines seems to have maxed out decades ago.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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I hope the evolution of battery capacity keeps up, so one day we can buy a car that is simply pre-charged for 10000 km or more. The increase from 100 to 1000 came about in a decade. I wonder what the limitations are. Meanwhile the fuel efficiency for combustion engines seems to have maxed out decades ago.

Try using you brain...do you really want to carry around a gigawatt of potential energy?

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#32 · Quote Reply

BYD leaving Tesla in the dust

Tesla has always been behind in battery tech. They spent very little in R&D, like typical US companies.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#33 · Quote Reply

I mean I'll import one from Canada if that's all it takes

You will pay a stupid amount of tariffs to own a car with no parts or service support.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#34 · Quote Reply

really?!? Pics or it didn't happen. :-)

People driving up from Mexico.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#35 · Quote Reply

I thought I had read somewhere that Canada was going to allow like 50k chinese EVs to be sold each year starting this year or something along those lines

Hasn't happened yet.

Canada buys 2 million cars a year, so 50K is fuck all.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#36 · Quote Reply

The US industry isn’t actually trying to make better EVs anymore.

They are, but only because Detroit consultants are reverse engineering Chinese EVs.

Detroit did the same thing with early VWs, then Hondas, but apparently they learned fuck all.

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RamenJunkie midwest.social RamenJunkie@midwest.social
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#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

ICE won't last forever, that much is true; not even if it's about engines.

What if we find a way to power vehicles with solidified water? Some sort of Cold Fission.

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RamenJunkie midwest.social RamenJunkie@midwest.social
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#38 · Quote Reply

You will pay a stupid amount of tariffs to own a car with no parts or service support.

Yeah but there is a chance even with the tariffs its more affordable.

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bstix feddit.dk bstix@feddit.dk
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#39 · Quote Reply

Try using you brain...do you really want to carry around a gigawatt of potential energy?

Hell yes I would.

A glass of water contains potential untapped energy of about 6 billion gigawatts. It's hardly dangerous.

I think the more crazy thing is to have a fucking bonfire running on gasoline in a metal box.

Most people would probably think you're a madman if you ignite a can of fuel just for LOLs. But they still do that every time they drive to work and back.

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
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#40 · Quote Reply

I have an Ionic 6. The main battery keeps the 12 volt properly charged while parked. It doesn't just let it die.

Interesting. When I looked into how my 5 works. I was read it was as as I described.

I've only had it 6 months now. And it only sat parked and unplugged for an extended time, the once at the airport. So I've never really tested directly.

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zergtoshi lemmy.world zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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#41 · Quote Reply

What if we find a way to power vehicles with solidified water? Some sort of Cold Fission.

Please do explain.

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
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#42 · Quote Reply

The american auto industry isn't even attempting to keep pace. They're just pretending the EV shift isn't happening and ICE engines will last forever.

I don't want to bail them out next time

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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#43 · Quote Reply

I can't just say ICE with everything going on right now.

It's okay to just say Combustion Engine or IC Engine. It takes a few seconds more to type but it removes all confusion.

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RamenJunkie midwest.social RamenJunkie@midwest.social
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#44 · Quote Reply

Please do explain.

I was just making a joke about an ICE powered engine. IE Solidified water.

But hey, maybe it could be some sort of reverse steam.engine where the cold air falls down over the turbine instead hot steam rising.

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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#45 · Quote Reply

The S in GPS is for "system", not for "satellite": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

Would you be interested in learning about JWT tokens?

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Ricky Rigatoni piefed.zip RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip
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#46 · Quote Reply

It's okay to just say Combustion Engine or IC Engine. It takes a few seconds more to type but it removes all confusion.

My thumbs will fall off.

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redbrick lemmy.world redbrick@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

People driving up from Mexico.

still need pics... I understand they are not permitted in US.

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