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These AI features won’t come cheaply, with Windows 12 set to debut a new hardware requirement just as its predecessor did with the TPM 2.0 requirement. This time around, a dedicated NPU would be required, a specialized processor designed to handle AI tasks.

This is so dumb if true. First they force HW upgrades because of TPM 2.0 and now, on the very next product they force yet another one for many due to NPU?

You can see they have long term vision...

Ugh. I've never wanted to use Linux and can't afford a Mac, but with this situation, Linux is all I have left. Which I do find annoying but I just can't keep justifying using Windows.

i bet its gonna be Windows 10/NT 10 underneath the hood

Subscription-Based?!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not only that, but increasingly worse versions, apparently.

One of us!

What a joke.

I'm saying they go back to the Win8 Metro touchscreen UI thing. With a Windows ME kernel.

Wouldn't it be great if they didn't see a price tag as a sign of quality and went with Linux instead? What a great world that'd be...

!linuxgaming@lemmy.world

just move to Linux

Or they abstract a lot of things behind voice commands and prompts.

If you don't then their ROI will be negative.

Great so now I need both a new motherboard and a new CPU also it can install the operating system and I can then not use the AI features because I don't want them. Especially stupid because I can already use AI if I wanted without having to get an NPU by going on Microsoft's own AI website.

I can't see corporations going for this.

interesting idea.

I bet it's going to be like this:

Even though people obtain equipment with NPU, they'll opt out from paid options which at least partially will contain AI modules. The NPU will then be only partially in use and that AI processing resource will be used by Microslop for it's own benefit.

I know he’ll spend it on a good cause.

Antibiotics, for those times when he cares enough to give the gift that keeps on giving

Pick a popular distro and live boot it to play around. No commitment necessary and you might find that it's fine for your needs (YMMV of course).

I use Fedora professionally and Ubuntu at home, they are both far more respectful of your time and ownership than windows had been for years.

Microsoft isn't going to move any way other than in a user-/owner-hostile direction any time soon.

The It department told me the reason that they don't support Linux is the lack of good endpoint management software and the support overhead compared to MacOs

Windows is so popular in my country because the price is accessible for majority of people starting business. Mac price could easily double the price of a desktop pc here so it tend to reserved for creative industry, and most local POS/Accounting software don't support it.

Full functionality is said to require a dedicated NPU with at least 40 TOPS of computing power.

Because hardware is getting cheaper by the day, especially RAM and SSDs, so I should be happy I get to rent a reviled, unwanted, AI-crammed OS from Microslop to put on my not-at-all expensive new machine I have to buy just to run it, that will package all my data up and send it home on the regular, via bandwidth I also pay for, to use it to train their AI for free, along with every other byte of private data they're stealing around the world as fast as they can get their hands on it. But wait, I'm not happy enough! Because then Microslop also gets to sell that same private, personally-generated data along with geolocation and wifi triangulation and every other privacy-obliterating feature they can cram in with it to advertisers for ad targeting wherever I go, as well as to my own hostile government as surveillance should I happen to be brown, not cis-het, and/or suspected of engaging in thoughtcrime. AND there's even a bonus! My subscription fees, as well as my data sold every which way they can flog it to others of the Epstein class, will very likely fund Microslop's direct involvement in genocide, just as it has done in Gaza and elsewhere. Win/win all around!

Yeah, no. Shitty company, shitty product, enshittifying the world one PC at a time. Fuck that.

Microsoft’s Copilot, the AI assistant the company has been aggressively injecting across the ecosystem, will now be a core part of the next Windows iteration rather than a supplementary feature.

Clippy 2's team HAS to have some serious Epstein level dirt on Satya Nadella, it makes no sense to see how reviled this shit was in 11 and double down on it.

Nah, most people are basically NPCs lacking critical thinking and just do and consume whatever their corpo overlords want them to do lol. I mean just look at the amount of people who continue to have dozens of streaming subscriptions although those get worse and expensive by the year. Same with people who every year purchase the new iPhone for 2k dollars or whatever and then only use it for WhatsApp and Instagram and stuff lol.

At least until 2032 for the 2021 LTSC.

I'd argue Vista was way better than people gave it credit for.

Mint and some Ubuntu flavor such as Kubuntu.
These two have the biggest userbase and thus problemsolving via internet search aswell as lots of deb packets come in handy.

Also they are out of the box experience straight from the start and everything just works.

Oh MicroSlop doesn’t want to exist anymore? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I hate every single words describing it.

Not only do you get to pay for the hardware to be able to use the software, and then pay for the software to be allowed to use it. When you use the software it siphons various user data off of you to train their AI with, so that you, the valued customer, can also pay for that AI service.

Well I'll not buy buy it.

Then again I've never directly bought a microslop product in all my decades of using windows.
I bought one pre-built pc in about 1995 that had it on, so I indirectly paid for that.

So when they said "windows 10 will be the last windows", they were kinda right. Just not the way the imagined...

Something modern and immutable (so its harder to break) like KDE-Linux. Otherwise, something like Bazzite which is good for gaming. If you want low resource and flatpak (its the future) built in, ZorinOS.

That's useless. I don't need AI to get answers like that.

And answers like that made my calculus homework problems get big and ugly.

Vista was better than people give it credit for simply because we now have 8 and 11 to compare it to. Vista sucked but it wasn't intentionally hostile towards the user like new versions of Windows are

"Keep on with the slop ♫, don't stop ♪ / Don't stop 'til you get enough ♫ ♪"

Windows 12? Well, I'm using Debian 13. 13 is a bigger number than 12; therefore, Debian is better than Windows.

"Fully modular" == "nobody talks to anybody else here any more"

If you need to use Windows, this is the chance to buy a lifetime license to Windows 11 for cheap, before it disappears..

I bought a copy of Visual Basic 3 in 1995 for $50 and that's it for MS products for me.

I would say, "to go out of business?" However, Windows is not even their main revenue driver anymore.

Ok thats enough, sick of this. I am at the point where I am crossing out all the software I considered to be needed or weighing in foss alternatives just to see if MAYBE microslop platform would still be viable to me.

Though all those are just rumors, I dont see the actual development be very far from this. No go. Thanks for helping me decide.

Perhaps you haven't noticed the C-suites practically salivating over those two little letters. It'll make their companies look AI forward so they can get more investment.

Nobody is asking you what hardware you're running or your use case...

If your computer is a couple years old and you're doing general web browsing, then I would recommend Kubuntu 24.04, latest version of Linux Mint, or Debian.

If your computer is newer, as in a year old or so, I would recommend Kubuntu 25.10, latest version of Fedora(KDE/Plasma spin), or possibly CachyOS(Arch based).

If you're a gamer, then same as above, Kubuntu 25.10, Fedora, or CachyOS, but I would highly recommend CachyOS in this instance.

The main things to consider for Linux is the version of the Kernel you may need and what Desktop Environment(Gnome, Plasma, Cinnamon, etc) you prefer.

The Linux Kernel is where most drivers will come from and are baked in. You can install proprietary drivers, but that process can vary depending on the distro.

The Desktop Environment is what you'll be interacting with on a daily basis. Personally I prefer and highly recommend Plasma. It has great Wayland support(newer way to render and manage programs graphically) and customization is there if you need it. You CAN install multiple Desktop Environments at the same time and you're not stuck with whatever is the default. But again, I'd recommend Plasma.

Now, why CachyOS? Simply because it has a lot of quality of life aspects available. It's not a "gaming" distro, but it can be right out of the box. It's built for speed, but also convenience in my opinion. Cachy can automatically detect and install the latest Nvidia drivers during the initial install. The "gaming" packages are a single click in their "CachyOS Hello" window on startup. And if you choose GRUB or Limine for your bootloader and BTRFS for your filesystem, you'll have snapshots for recovery automatically setup for you(which saved my butt twice now).

Definitely try out a few distros. Personally I started with Mint and loved it, but I ran into driver issues eventually due to how they do kernel releases. Then tried Ubuntu, Fedora, Manjaro, Endeavor, Debian...all of these never "kept" me because of something breaking or lack of timely driver updates. But I'm on CachyOS now and within a month of trying it I ended up switching all of my Windows machines to it, which I've never done before. I've never gone "full Linux" before, but Cachy pulled me right in. I've thrown it on multiple laptops, a NUC, and a desktop gaming PC and it's "just worked" on all of them.

but I already have a lifetime license for Windows 10 and see where that got me

When windows 12 releases I and all Linux fans will be happy.

I heard when it gets a new virus it calls a number in the Virgin Islands to try and help so your wife doesn’t find out you have been looking at Russian whores…

Hard truth 👍

Me af

(I saw the typo after I screenshotted and didn't feel like fixing it)

This might be the trigger to move my parents computer to Linux too. They aren't technical, but damn sure don't want to pay for an os subscription.