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Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Modular, Subscription-Based, AI-Focused OS
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Octagon9561 lemmy.ml Octagon9561@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-09
#252 · Quote Reply

Vista was better than people give it credit for simply because we now have 8 and 11 to compare it to. Vista sucked but it wasn't intentionally hostile towards the user like new versions of Windows are

Vista only really sucked if it was installed on an old PC or one of those cheap "Vista capable" machines that only had 512MB RAM.

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QuandaleDingle lemmy.world QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#253 · Quote Reply

Hey people are already leaving the OS for Linux, theres no need to advertise for Linux even more.

Linux users when Windows: 🐧

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Buddahriffic lemmy.world Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#254 · Quote Reply

Had a presentation to make yesterday so figured fuck it, maybe the copilot integrated into power point can make this task I don't want to do easier.

So I made a title slide and explained what was going on, then tried to get it able to edit the current file. Wasn't able to but it was able to create a new file.

Took one look at the result and decided fuck it, I'll just do it myself. How much it tried to play up everything without really saying anything was almost nauseating.

So I guess thanks copilot for sucking so much it inspired me to just spit out a better presentation. At least better to my standards; I bet an MBA would have preferred the other one that acted like the whole category the task was in was my own work and needed to be explained to the rest of the team that has been doing related tasks longer than I have.

Better build the whole OS around this tech which basically just exploits how easily we're fooled by confident words.

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ghostBones lemmy.world ghostBones@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-10
#255 · Quote Reply

Linux is right choice

Just installed cachyOS yesterday. Read this today. The timing is solid.

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Sabata ani.social Sabata11792@ani.social
Joined: 2024-06-02
#256 · (edited) Quote Reply

I hope this is satire or there's something seriously wrong about your management tools...

You guys are getting management tools? I got a spreadsheet I made. Apparently the boss is more lazy than me.

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eli lemmy.world eli@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#257 · Quote Reply

IMO, Arch (which CachyOS is based on) is decidedly not an entry-level distro. Might be the smaller evil if you're doing lots of gaming, though.

I totally understand and I do hate recommending Arch right from the start, but CachyOS is a great entry level Arch distro. The installer is pretty straight forward and setup is very minimal if you're just going to game. The only thing lacking IMO, for beginners, is an "app store" with pretty pictures.

But if you're gaming, I think you should be on the latest kernel possible, so a rolling release(Fedora) or bleeding edge(Arch). Latest Ubuntu derivative(25.10, soon 26.04) is fine but not ideal. It's the main reason SteamOS is also based on Arch.

Again, not gaming? Mint is probably the defacto unless you're on newer hardware.

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BlameTheAntifa lemmy.world BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-22
#258 · (edited) Quote Reply

Remember the golden rules for those seeking enlightenment.

Older hardware?
Mint

Newer hardware?
Fedora.

Literally only gaming?
Bazzite

And remember to educate them about the concept of Desktop Environments.

If they aren’t overwhelmed, share some possible future ā€œupgradeā€ paths like CachyOS, Debian, etc.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#259 · (edited) Quote Reply

Remember the golden rules for those seeking enlightenment. Older hardware? Mint Newer hardware? Fedora. Literally only gaming? Bazzite And remember to educate them about the concept of Desktop Environments. If they aren’t overwhelmed, share some possible future ā€œupgradeā€ paths like CachyOS, Debian, etc.

Just putting a word in for OpenSUSE. I've been happily using Tumbleweed, their rolling distro, for years now on several different machines.

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flango lemmy.eco.br flango@lemmy.eco.br
Joined: 2023-08-03
#260 · Quote Reply

business buyers

Hahaha perfect

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BlameTheAntifa lemmy.world BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-22
#261 · Quote Reply

Just putting a word in for OpenSUSE. I've been happily using Tumbleweed, their rolling distro, for years now on several different machines.

I love OpenSUSE, but would consider it one of those ā€œupgrade pathā€ distros.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#262 · Quote Reply

Looks like 2027 is shaping up to be the year of Linux on the desktop.

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doug lemmy.today doug@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-02-14
#263 · Quote Reply

LET’S SLOP IT UP! šŸ’¦šŸ’»

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doug lemmy.today doug@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-02-14
#264 · Quote Reply

Microsoft can subscribe to deez nuts.

FUKKIN GOTTEMMMMMMM DAB. ON. IT.

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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-15
#265 · (edited) Quote Reply

"Fully modular" as 'It can run on a toaster" or as "For access to the file manager, subscribe to premium"?

Fully modular as in it runs in a VM in the cloud that you pay them for access to

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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-15
#266 · Quote Reply

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but apparently Windows Insider reports that this is all speculation, and that MSoft had committed to rolling back AI features, and Windows 12 has been postponed until 11 is fixed. Meanwhile, 26H2, set to release later this year is reported to have CoPilot integrated into file explorer. Not really sure who to believe, but with MSlop's behavior lately, I'm le...

Windows 12 has been postponed until 11 is fixed.

LMAO

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#267 · Quote Reply

I love OpenSUSE, but would consider it one of those ā€œupgrade pathā€ distros.

Right, yes. Your recommendations are good for new users.

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Landless2029 lemmy.world Landless2029@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-23
#268 · Quote Reply

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Bytemeister lemmy.world Bytemeister@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#269 · Quote Reply

Windows 12 has been postponed until 11 is fixed. LMAO

Yeah, especially considering that 11 appears to be fundamentally as broken as a vibe-coded AI sloppified clone of Windows 10 would be. The only real "fix" for it in my opinion is to re-open support for 10, and commit to remaking 12 from scratch with entirely different goals, focused on performance, privacy, security, and efficiency. I would consider spinning up an AI PC project, but as an entirely separate brand from Windows. Might as well even call the new thing CoPilot and make use of all the branding they've committed to.

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Dr_Del_Fuego slrpnk.net Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-03-12
#270 · Quote Reply

Cloud office or even VPS is a bit of a different proposition when you have a local computer that can save important data. Windows 12 would be sold as your only PC (Personal emphasized). Cloud needs a separate local device too.

I don't understand what you're saying here, can you expand on those points?

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BurgerBaron piefed.social BurgerBaron@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-25
#271 · Quote Reply

Yeah, you don't get to say no thanks. Your boss will still buy Windows 12. The corporate world will still steal your soul. The world of politics will still be corrupt. And Tupac Shakur will still continue to be the CEO of Burger King.

I don't care at work because I'm not paying for it or doing anything involving my personal data or any power user stuff. Windows barely matters there. Everything has moved into web apps and websites.

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Worstdriver lemmy.world Worstdriver@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
#272 · Quote Reply

Absofuckinglutely not.

And I say this as a dedicated Windows user who spent a year on Ubuntu Linux a decade ago and hated it. Windows does this, and sign me up for penguin lessons.

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#273 · Quote Reply

Windows 12 has been postponed until 11 is fixed. LMAO

So, indefinitely.

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ieatpwns lemmy.world ieatpwns@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#274 · Quote Reply

They saw the first few minutes of Tron legacy and said ā€œYES that!ā€

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Ghostie lemmy.zip Ghostie@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-16
#275 · Quote Reply

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SchwertImStein lemmy.dbzer0.com SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-03-08
#276 · Quote Reply

Absofuckinglutely not. And I say this as a dedicated Windows user who spent a year on Ubuntu Linux a decade ago and hated it. Windows does this, and sign me up for penguin lessons.

Linux is really easy now. Ofc if you want to find problems you will.

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FackCurs lemmy.world psoul@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-10
#277 · Quote Reply

Finally, an OS for me! My biggest complaint since the days of Windows 95 has been the lack of being able to add new features. I didn't really care what they are, but I just like the process of subscribing to additional features until I can max them all out. And secondly, my next biggest gripe has been how hard it is to find AI. It's never at my fingertips. Now that it'll be integrated into the ...

I can’t wait to give my credit card information to my AI agent so it can buy more features for me without me monitoring it!

Imagine waking up to a fully decked out Windows 12 plus pro 365 hell yeah 730 Copilot ?

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knatschus discuss.tchncs.de knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-25
#278 · Quote Reply

I'm still trying to decide on distros. I had originally considered Mint, then I learned it's a fork of Debian. Got any pros/cons for either?

I'm a linux noob still, i guess mint is focused on being user friendly while debian is focused on being stable and more lightweight. The installation process of mint is similar to windows it just takes half the time and you want to click yes on everything instead of no, once your done the cinnamon environment looks and feels alot like winxp.

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Constant Pain lemmy.world ConstantPain@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-04
#279 · Quote Reply

Windows 11 isn't much better, and they're continually making it worse.

Still not a subscription service. Just install it with a local account and european country and you will be golden!

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
#280 · Quote Reply

I imagine that red walpaper is candy it looks so goopddddddddddmmdm

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pewgar_seemsimandroid lemmy.blahaj.zone pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-07-03
#281 · (edited) Quote Reply

if the ai bubble pops, watch them need to do a windows 12.1

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Loce lemmy.world Loce@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#282 · Quote Reply

Hahahahaha, get fucked Microslop

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Worstdriver lemmy.world Worstdriver@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
#283 · Quote Reply

Linux is really easy now. Ofc if you want to find problems you will.

My big issue was that every time I wanted to use software that wasn't native to Linux it could take up to two weeks of forum hunting, Google searches, and just plain hair tearing to find out how to do something.

Getting Eve Online to run wound up requiring a font install and deleting the in-game music folder. Not the things you expect an average or even better than average user to know or expect to do.

And that is just one of the instances that stick in my memory

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Lee Duna lemmy.nz throws_lemy@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-30
#284 · Quote Reply

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but apparently Windows Insider reports that this is all speculation, and that MSoft had committed to rolling back AI features, and Windows 12 has been postponed until 11 is fixed. Meanwhile, 26H2, set to release later this year is reported to have CoPilot integrated into file explorer. Not really sure who to believe, but with MSlop's behavior lately, I'm le...

Even if Windows 12 is postponed or canceled, It is clear that Microsoft will integrate AI into Windows with the release of 26H2.

The worst case is that subscription-based OS will be pushed in the next Windows 11 update.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-10-23
#285 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't understand what you're saying here, can you expand on those points?

A local device with local storage can choose cloud computing while managing importance of local copies. It's unclear if you will be able to log in to win12 when internet is down. A PC can be your only device, or at least your central device.

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Damage feddit.it Damage@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-12
#286 · Quote Reply

My big issue was that every time I wanted to use software that wasn't native to Linux it could take up to two weeks of forum hunting, Google searches, and just plain hair tearing to find out how to do something. Getting Eve Online to run wound up requiring a font install and deleting the in-game music folder. Not the things you expect an average or even better than average user to know or expec...

Nowadays the only Windows software I run on Linux are games, and those work great, for everything else I try to stay native anyway. Some production software is still unfortunately lacking, but for most users it's a decent experience, especially compared to what modern Windows has become.

But I would avoid Ubuntu.

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brandon piefed.social brandon@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-07
#287 · Quote Reply

Lack of endpoint management software Then fucking make one?? Software development is part of the IT, no?

I'm not sure if you're being serious, but software engineering and IT systems administration are different roles typically filled by different people.

A company or organization can have a quite sophisticated IT department without having any software engineers on staff.

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kieron115 startrek.website kieron115@startrek.website
Joined: 2024-02-14
#288 · Quote Reply

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They added sources through the article, including a youtube interview between two Microsoft execs, so I'd say its a least plausible.

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#289 · Quote Reply

Wtf is a ā€œfully-modularā€ OS

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0x0 lemmy.zip 0x0@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-04-04
#290 · Quote Reply

Remember the golden rules for those seeking enlightenment. Older hardware? Mint Newer hardware? Fedora. Literally only gaming? Bazzite And remember to educate them about the concept of Desktop Environments. If they aren’t overwhelmed, share some possible future ā€œupgradeā€ paths like CachyOS, Debian, etc.

Older hardware?
Mint

Mint requires 1GiB minimum to be usable, as do any Canonical clones, and dropped support for 32-bit (or will soon).
So for older software go for TinyCore, Puppy, Porteus or similar.

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0x0 lemmy.zip 0x0@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-04-04
#291 · Quote Reply

Just putting a word in for OpenSUSE. I've been happily using Tumbleweed, their rolling distro, for years now on several different machines.

Never tried it but at least it's EU-based.

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0x0 lemmy.zip 0x0@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-04-04
#292 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

You compiled the version number as a string?

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0x0 lemmy.zip 0x0@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-04-04
#293 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Switched mine to Mint, no issues.

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SuperDuper lemmy.world superduperenigma@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#294 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Yeah but gen 2 was peak Pokemon

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bampop lemmy.world bampop@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#295 · Quote Reply

My big issue was that every time I wanted to use software that wasn't native to Linux it could take up to two weeks of forum hunting, Google searches, and just plain hair tearing to find out how to do something. Getting Eve Online to run wound up requiring a font install and deleting the in-game music folder. Not the things you expect an average or even better than average user to know or expec...

Can't speak to your specific issues but I also tried Ubuntu about 10 years ago, and went back to Windows. Last year I gave Mint a try. Works great, gave my old PC a new lease of life, and there are such quality FOSS packages that you never need to touch any MS bloatware again. Things are not what they were 10 years ago

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hodgepodgin lemmy.zip hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-14
#296 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wtf is a ā€œfully-modularā€ OS

I guess they’re embracing microkernels architecture lol

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resume7512 lemmy.world resume7512@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-23
#297 · Quote Reply

Finally the year of linux desktop!

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Blue_Morpho lemmy.world Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#298 · Quote Reply

I guess they’re embracing microkernels architecture lol

That is how Windows 11 started (NT was a microkernel OS). Then they slowly went monolithic for performance.

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bthest lemmy.world bold_atlas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-31
#299 · (edited) Quote Reply

I know the Epstein files revealed that all the last Windows versions have been named after Microsoft leaderships' preferred rape victim ages but I still don't think I'm ready to switch to Linux.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#300 · Quote Reply

Not doing a subscription based OS.

Just throwing that out there.

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TwilightKiddy programming.dev TwilightKiddy@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#301 · Quote Reply

Wtf is a ā€œfully-modularā€ OS

One can only hope it means Edge will be a module and you'll finally be able to yeet it off the hard drive.

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