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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

Evidently, it's not enough for this utter piece of shit to verbally support war crimes of the burger reich. Motherfucker wants to be a direct participant.

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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Evidently, it's not enough for this utter piece of shit to verbally support war crimes of the burger reich. Motherfucker wants to be a direct participant.

I'm going to call you out on this, he in no way even hinted they Canada would get involved.

He said by the nature of the conflict he can't rule it out in future. Which is absolutely an accurate and fair thing to say.

My suspicion is a person like you would complain if he DID rule it out, saying he wouldn't protect Canada if we're attacked or some transparent shit like that.

Downvoted as likely Maple MAGA and definite word-twisting.

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Sturgist lemmy.ca Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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I'm going to call you out on this, he in no way even hinted they Canada would get involved. He said by the nature of the conflict he can't rule it out in future. Which is absolutely an accurate and fair thing to say. My suspicion is a person like you would complain if he DID rule it out, saying he wouldn't protect Canada if we're attacked or some transparent shit like that. Downvoted as likely ...

They're one of the most prolific lemmy.ca posters from the .ml instance. I don't disagree with all of OP's takes over all their posts/comments on our instance, but they're absolutely on the Russia/China simp end of the political spectrum. Like a large portion of the .ml membership.

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patatas sh.itjust.works patatas@sh.itjust.works
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#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm going to call you out on this, he in no way even hinted they Canada would get involved. He said by the nature of the conflict he can't rule it out in future. Which is absolutely an accurate and fair thing to say. My suspicion is a person like you would complain if he DID rule it out, saying he wouldn't protect Canada if we're attacked or some transparent shit like that. Downvoted as likely ...

He called the US our ally twice in his response to the question. On multiple occasions over the last few days he has repeated US and Israeli propaganda about Iran's nuclear capabilities and ambitions, calling them a "nuclear threat".

And instead of doing the thing that any competent politician who is against this war of aggression would do — say "no, we are not getting involved in this conflict and I am not going to entertain wild hypotheticals" — he left the door open for sending Canadians to fight alongside the fascist US who have threatened our annexation.

Either he's aligned with Trump's worldview, or he's a dangerously naive fool (or both). Either way, he's clearly unfit to lead this country.

Edit: typo

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Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat lemmy.ca Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca
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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't like hearing our PM parrot US propaganda, and going directly against his speech in Davos.

I realize there might be political reasons for what he is doing, but the cynical side of me assumes this is more due to Israel lobbying our government for support.

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SamuelRJankis sh.itjust.works SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works
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#7 · Quote Reply

57 second clip of the with the question and full reply.

https://youtu.be/n7RbqUbeBKg

I'll let people be the judge whether the response was appropriate.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#8 · Quote Reply

57 second clip of the with the question and full reply. https://youtu.be/n7RbqUbeBKg I'll let people be the judge whether the response was appropriate.

The best way to judge whether the response was appropriate is by contrasting it with his response to Russian invasion of Ukraine. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2232134/carney-pledges-2-billion-for-ukraine-more-sanctions-on-4th-anniversary-of-russian-invasion

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ZiggyTheZygote lemmy.ca ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca
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57 second clip of the with the question and full reply. https://youtu.be/n7RbqUbeBKg I'll let people be the judge whether the response was appropriate.

His response was diplomaticly vague. Which means anything is possible, even joining this war, probably with a false flag.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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I'm going to call you out on this, he in no way even hinted they Canada would get involved. He said by the nature of the conflict he can't rule it out in future. Which is absolutely an accurate and fair thing to say. My suspicion is a person like you would complain if he DID rule it out, saying he wouldn't protect Canada if we're attacked or some transparent shit like that. Downvoted as likely ...

Nobody is twisting any words here. He refuses to condemn an unprovoked war of aggression. He calls the aggressor, which literally threatened to annex Canada, and is running an economic war against us an ally, and he did not rule out direct participation in the said war. The only Maple MAGA here is you, being unable to look at the situation objectively because you simply cannot criticize your own political party.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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They're one of the most prolific lemmy.ca posters from the .ml instance. I don't disagree with all of OP's takes over all their posts/comments on our instance, but they're absolutely on the Russia/China simp end of the political spectrum. Like a large portion of the .ml membership.

Gotta love how ad hominem reigns supreme in liberal spaces.

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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#12 · Quote Reply

Gotta love how ad hominem reigns supreme in liberal spaces.

It's called a reputation and you have a shitty one. No one to blame but yourself. You have plenty of safe spaces to run to if you're picked on here.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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It's called a reputation and you have a shitty one. No one to blame but yourself. You have plenty of safe spaces to run to if you're picked on here.

Don't worry child, I have thick skin and I can handle a few angry losers here barking at me.

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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Nobody is twisting any words here. He refuses to condemn an unprovoked war of aggression. He calls the aggressor, which literally threatened to annex Canada, and is running an economic war against us an ally, and he did not rule out direct participation in the said war. The only Maple MAGA here is you, being unable to look at the situation objectively because you simply cannot criticize your ow...

"Nobody is twisting any words here".

"Evidently, it's not enough for this utter piece of shit to verbally support war crimes of the burger reich. Motherfucker wants to be a direct participant."

If you think I'm going to take you seriously, at all, you're sorely mistaken.

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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He called the US our ally twice in his response to the question. On multiple occasions over the last few days he has repeated US and Israeli propaganda about Iran's nuclear capabilities and ambitions, calling them a "nuclear threat". And instead of doing the thing that any competent politician who is against this war of aggression would do — say "no, we are not getting involved in this conflict...

It's good to see the Fediverse getting big enough that it's attracting foreign interference.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

"Nobody is twisting any words here". "Evidently, it's not enough for this utter piece of shit to verbally support war crimes of the burger reich. Motherfucker wants to be a direct participant." If you think I'm going to take you seriously, at all, you're sorely mistaken.

Go grab a dictionary and look up what the word participant means. And why would I care if somebody who has reading comprehension of a preschooler takes me seriously?

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#17 · Quote Reply

It's good to see the Fediverse getting big enough that it's attracting foreign interference.

I love how you think that fediverse is exclusively for westoids. 🤣

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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#18 · Quote Reply

Go grab a dictionary and look up what the word participant means. And why would I care if somebody who has reading comprehension of a preschooler takes me seriously?

I can agitate for fun too!

Go grab a dictionary and look up what the word direct means. And why would I care if somebody who has reading comprehension of a preschooler thinks I'm wrong?

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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I love how you think that fediverse is exclusively for westoids. 🤣

Shhhh you're not supposed to use that word. It makes it too obvious why you're here.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#20 · Quote Reply

Shhhh you're not supposed to use that word. It makes it too obvious why you're here.

What's obvious, and hilarious, is how fragile libs are when confronted with views outside their bubble. Maple MAGA indeed.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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I can agitate for fun too! Go grab a dictionary and look up what the word direct means. And why would I care if somebody who has reading comprehension of a preschooler thinks I'm wrong?

Oh, bless your heart. You seem to think direct only applies to pulling a trigger. Let me spell it out for your preschool-level comprehension: providing intelligence, logistics, or even a single bullet is direct participation. It's not a spectator sport. If you're fueling the war machine, you're in the war. Maybe grab a dictionary that includes the concept of "tangible support" before you embarrass yourself further.

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HumanOnEarth lemmy.ca HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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He called the US our ally twice in his response to the question. On multiple occasions over the last few days he has repeated US and Israeli propaganda about Iran's nuclear capabilities and ambitions, calling them a "nuclear threat". And instead of doing the thing that any competent politician who is against this war of aggression would do — say "no, we are not getting involved in this conflict...

This user's last 22 of 25 posts is in "Canada" with an obvious anti-Liberal slant.

I'll leave it to users to decide if this person is a genuine good faith individual posting here, or something else.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Evidently, it's not enough for this utter piece of shit to verbally support war crimes of the burger reich. Motherfucker wants to be a direct participant.

he has to balance his response with a Fascist war monger next door while negociating trade. Sex in a canoe.

You can't run a country telling people to go fuck themselves like Ford runs Ontario, because the victims of that behavior are CDN workers.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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he has to balance his response with a Fascist war monger next door while negociating trade. Sex in a canoe. You can't run a country telling people to go fuck themselves like Ford runs Ontario, because the victims of that behavior are CDN workers.

You do realize that he's literally legitimizing Trump invading countries unilaterally here. I bet CDN workers are going to be thrilled when the US decides they'd like to take over Canadian oil fields next. This is about having basic principles and minimal integrity. Don't tell me it's not possible, because here's what it looks like in practice https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93wwq1n542o

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Soup lemmy.world Soup@lemmy.world
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#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't like hearing our PM parrot US propaganda, and going directly against his speech in Davos. I realize there might be political reasons for what he is doing, but the cynical side of me assumes this is more due to Israel lobbying our government for support.

Anybody who believed his speech was anything more than PR was/is a fool. It was after he tried to trample the rights of a union fighting to not be heavily exploited and after he happily fucked over major environmental protections for the benefit of energy companies, many of whom aren’t even Canadian(as if that matters).

I read it and laughed. If I didn’t laugh, I’d cry. It was so fucking insulting.

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Smaile lemmy.ca Smaile@lemmy.ca
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#26 · Quote Reply

I don't like hearing our PM parrot US propaganda, and going directly against his speech in Davos. I realize there might be political reasons for what he is doing, but the cynical side of me assumes this is more due to Israel lobbying our government for support.

fr, i hate the idea of helping out with iran and id consider myself fairly conservative.

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AGM lemmy.ca AGM@lemmy.ca
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#27 · Quote Reply

The ground is obviously being laid for bringing NATO in. The speed with which we've moved towards it being openly discussed is pretty alarming.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#28 · Quote Reply

The ground is obviously being laid for bringing NATO in. The speed with which we've moved towards it being openly discussed is pretty alarming.

Indeed, and with the supposed attack on Turkey, they can now push to activate article 5, and press gang countries into it.

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PumpkinSkink lemmy.world PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
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#29 · Quote Reply

I have a growing suspicion that the NATO crowd is planning on using this to "keep America in".

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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I have a growing suspicion that the NATO crowd is planning on using this to "keep America in".

my worry as well

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patatas sh.itjust.works patatas@sh.itjust.works
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#31 · Quote Reply

This user's last 22 of 25 posts is in "Canada" with an obvious anti-Liberal slant. I'll leave it to users to decide if this person is a genuine good faith individual posting here, or something else.

If you have something to say to me then say it directly instead of dancing around it like a weak little piece of shit

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

fr, i hate the idea of helping out with iran and id consider myself fairly conservative.

You are not helping Iran by condemning your on you are helping Irsnians that Israrl try to genocide

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

Anybody who believed his speech was anything more than PR was/is a fool. It was after he tried to trample the rights of a union fighting to not be heavily exploited and after he happily fucked over major environmental protections for the benefit of energy companies, many of whom aren’t even Canadian(as if that matters). I read it and laughed. If I didn’t laugh, I’d cry. It was so fucking insulting.

It was simply about greenland and the threat of annexation

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

I'm going to call you out on this, he in no way even hinted they Canada would get involved. He said by the nature of the conflict he can't rule it out in future. Which is absolutely an accurate and fair thing to say. My suspicion is a person like you would complain if he DID rule it out, saying he wouldn't protect Canada if we're attacked or some transparent shit like that. Downvoted as likely ...

No it is not fair to say. He should say I will definitly not participate in this war of agression

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

This user's last 22 of 25 posts is in "Canada" with an obvious anti-Liberal slant. I'll leave it to users to decide if this person is a genuine good faith individual posting here, or something else.

Carney is acting like a conservative

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