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Daniel Quinn lemmy.ca danielquinn@lemmy.ca
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#2 · Quote Reply

Says the dude who just cozied up to a country waging an illegal war.

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IrateAnteater sh.itjust.works IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Says the dude who just cozied up to a country waging an illegal war.

Not sure calling the war illegal quite qualifies as "cozying up to".

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wildbus8979 sh.itjust.works wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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#4 · Quote Reply

Not sure calling the war illegal quite qualifies as "cozying up to".

"it's illegal, but we might join anyway" doesn't quite qualifies as "condemnation" either.

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puppinstuff lemmy.ca puppinstuff@lemmy.ca
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#5 · Quote Reply

Carney is giving real “guy in the hot dog suit” vibes in these speeches lately.

When it was important your first reaction was to not make waves. Do a better job of walking the walk, Mister.

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sveltecider lemmy.ca sveltecider@lemmy.ca
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#6 · Quote Reply

"it's illegal, but we might join anyway" doesn't quite qualifies as "condemnation" either.

When did he say we might join?

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IrateAnteater sh.itjust.works IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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Carney is giving real “guy in the hot dog suit” vibes in these speeches lately. When it was important your first reaction was to not make waves. Do a better job of walking the walk, Mister.

And what "walking" was he supposed to do? Put boots on the ground to defend Iran?

Nothing Carney says or does can exist siloed into its own neat little vacuum, especially when it comes to Trump and the US. So while coming out guns blazing right from get go might have made you feel better, it would do absolutely nothing to help Iranians, and it would likely harm Canadians when Trump inevitability lashes out in return.

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IrateAnteater sh.itjust.works IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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#8 · Quote Reply

When did he say we might join?

He didn't. When asked he said he wouldn't rule out using the Canadian forces to defend Canadians in the area. Doing things like using special forces to evacuate embassies would fall under that umbrella.

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systemglitch lemmy.world systemglitch@lemmy.world
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Carney is giving real “guy in the hot dog suit” vibes in these speeches lately. When it was important your first reaction was to not make waves. Do a better job of walking the walk, Mister.

He is doing a better job than most other leaders ever have.

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puppinstuff lemmy.ca puppinstuff@lemmy.ca
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#10 · Quote Reply

He is doing a better job than most other leaders ever have.

That may be so but he set a high bar at Davos and it’s on him to meet it. I’m rooting for him.

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puppinstuff lemmy.ca puppinstuff@lemmy.ca
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#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

And what "walking" was he supposed to do? Put boots on the ground to defend Iran? Nothing Carney says or does can exist siloed into its own neat little vacuum, especially when it comes to Trump and the US. So while coming out guns blazing right from get go might have made you feel better, it would do absolutely nothing to help Iranians, and it would likely harm Canadians when Trump inevitabilit...

I would have preferred the opposite. His initial response was to support the US air strikes. I would have wanted a measured response supporting international norms and that he would commit to investigating the developments before taking an official position.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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#12 · Quote Reply

Yes and I wonder whose fucking fault that is. Hint: It's not only America.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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#13 · Quote Reply

Not sure calling the war illegal quite qualifies as "cozying up to".

Saying he supports the war but he's kinda sad about it definitely counts.

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IrateAnteater sh.itjust.works IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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#14 · Quote Reply

Yes and I wonder whose fucking fault that is. Hint: It's not only America.

Well there's the biggest part of the blame going to the US for upheaving the status quo. There's part of the blame going to China for never really going along with that status quo in the first place . There's some obvious blame for Russia, as well as for just about every group involved in the eternal shitshow that is the middle east. There's some retroactive blame for Europe, who collectively had the economic power to not rely on the US for global stability, but never really got that ball rolling post WWII. Is there anyone else you were hinting at?

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ILikeBoobies lemmy.ca ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

Us middle powers have to stand up for each other.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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Well there's the biggest part of the blame going to the US for upheaving the status quo. There's part of the blame going to China for never really going along with that status quo in the first place . There's some obvious blame for Russia, as well as for just about every group involved in the eternal shitshow that is the middle east. There's some retroactive blame for Europe, who collectively h...

US allies (including Europe, but relevantly to this comm Canada) for pretending they care about international law yet going along with every instance of blatantly illegal and amoral US imperialism. Most recently, Carney is backing US strikes against Iran "with regret."

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ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace piefed.ca ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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#17 · Quote Reply

Yeah but then he goes around saying we might send military personnel to assist the U.S. and Israel fight against Iran.

Pick a fucking side, you two faced motherfucker.

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Typhoon lemmy.ca Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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Yeah but then he goes around saying we might send military personnel to assist the U.S. and Israel fight against Iran. Pick a fucking side, you two faced motherfucker.

He never said we might send the military to assist.

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wildbus8979 sh.itjust.works wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

He didn't. When asked he said he wouldn't rule out using the Canadian forces to defend Canadians in the area. Doing things like using special forces to evacuate embassies would fall under that umbrella.

The same way we totally weren't in Iraq, I'm sure! That is, with boots on the ground, senior officers embedded in the US Army directing brigades, commandering ships in the Persian Gulf, surveillance planes in the air, and intelligence ears wide open.

It is highly unlikely that we don't currently have troops embedded in the US military currently deployed. US/Canadian military is one of world's most integrated. And I'm sure you can guess who carries the weight.

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