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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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A jello with complicated relationships <3

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👍Maximum Derek👍 discuss.tchncs.de Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de
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Dave and Busters wishes they had Dabo tables

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ThePantser sh.itjust.works ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

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pulsewidth lemmy.world pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

Iirc the rest of his group were called the grand communion of something, and they had trained and practiced shapeshifting for many years through their lives (centuries iirc) so they find it incredibly easy to adopt any form they choose, and they choose humanoid when interacting with lesser advanced humanoid forms.

Poor Odo is essentially a lost child that was raised by wolves (the DS9 community) and as such he's a noob shapeshifter.

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MaggiWuerze feddit.org MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
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Iirc the rest of his group were called the grand communion of something, and they had trained and practiced shapeshifting for many years through their lives (centuries iirc) so they find it incredibly easy to adopt any form they choose, and they choose humanoid when interacting with lesser advanced humanoid forms. Poor Odo is essentially a lost child that was raised by wolves (the DS9 community...

Yeah, but then why are the practiced shapeshifters also looking like shit when they turn human?

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lath piefed.social lath@piefed.social
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

Odo was forced to take that form and it's part of his trauma. While the other shapeshifters can change into humanoids without issue, they disdain the form and only choose to appear as one in support of Odo, who is a lost youngling.

All of their chosen human forms to represent themselves are variations of Odo's. All other human forms used are perfect copies of their targets when needed to for infiltration and sabotage.

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lath piefed.social lath@piefed.social
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Yeah, but then why are the practiced shapeshifters also looking like shit when they turn human?

Maybe because they think humans are shit and it makes them feel filthy to look like that?

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sudoMakeUser sh.itjust.works sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works
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Iirc the rest of his group were called the grand communion of something, and they had trained and practiced shapeshifting for many years through their lives (centuries iirc) so they find it incredibly easy to adopt any form they choose, and they choose humanoid when interacting with lesser advanced humanoid forms. Poor Odo is essentially a lost child that was raised by wolves (the DS9 community...

He does eventually learn to take the human form perfectly when he's stranded on that planet for 200 years.

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caseyweederman lemmy.ca caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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Dave and Busters wishes they had Dabo tables

Dave and Busters named themselves after DaBo.

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caseyweederman lemmy.ca caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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Iirc the rest of his group were called the grand communion of something, and they had trained and practiced shapeshifting for many years through their lives (centuries iirc) so they find it incredibly easy to adopt any form they choose, and they choose humanoid when interacting with lesser advanced humanoid forms. Poor Odo is essentially a lost child that was raised by wolves (the DS9 community...

Even before he was on DS9, he was treated as a specimen by a scientist who would electrocute him for "science".

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homes piefed.world homes@piefed.world
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A jello with complicated relationships &lt;3

So, an aspic?

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Thebeardedsinglemalt lemmy.world Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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Dave and Busters named themselves after DaBo.

Quark is far less shady than D&B.

Change my mind

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Thebeardedsinglemalt lemmy.world Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

I wanna say that's their generalized shape from when they were solids and it's their default form. Odo, the female changeling and Las all have that similar facial structure

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hansolo lemmy.today hansolo@lemmy.today
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Yeah, but then why are the practiced shapeshifters also looking like shit when they turn human?

I could be wrong, but I also thought it was a conservation of energy thing. Like it took energy to hold humanoid form, so he just did the low-poly version for day-to-day stuff. Maybe I'm mis-remembering.

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

*bajorans, but yes

They originally appeared like that so as to be immediately identifiable as Odos people, then just stuck with the forms solids had seen them in so as to be recognized- whenever they didn’t want to be recognized, they weren’t.

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MaggiWuerze feddit.org MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
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Maybe because they think humans are shit and it makes them feel filthy to look like that?

That would definitely be on brand for them

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TachyonTele piefed.social TachyonTele@piefed.social
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

Maybe he was born with it...

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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So, an aspic?

language

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Kogasa programming.dev kogasa@programming.dev
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Yeah, but then why are the practiced shapeshifters also looking like shit when they turn human?

By choice. Maybe they choose it to comfort Odo, or maybe because other humanoids recognize them as like Odo (the only shapeshifter they'd known before).

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TerrabyteMarx quokk.au TerrabyteMarx@quokk.au
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Even before he was on DS9, he was treated as a specimen by a scientist who would electrocute him for "science".

Have to watch DS9 again but remember the scenes where he encounters his abuser facading as his family as being particularly brutal and being annoyed he was put in that situation to begin with. Like the crew of DS9 didn't recognise any issue until he'd involuntarily shapeshifted into a monster

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librekitty lemmy.today librekitty@lemmy.today
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homes piefed.world homes@piefed.world
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FrChazzz lemmus.org FrChazzz@lemmus.org
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Didn't they originally say his looks were because it was the best he could do to imitate humans because he needed to learn to take shapes? And then his kind show up and they look just like him? I mean he has to concentrate to keep the humanoid form, why do they choose to look like the fucked up human form?

My head-canon is that the Founders met the Progenitors somewhere along the way and hard-coded a kind of “default” solid look into their collective matrix that resembles the Progenitors. The Founders emulate them in a lot of ways (affecting the evolutionary trajectory of life forms like the Jem’hadar and Vorta) and so “honor” their work by trying to look like them when they take on a humanoid form. Given this, Odo looks the way he does because that’s what a solid form Changeling is intended to look like.

(This is my nerdy way of reconciling that the Progenitor in TNG is played by the same actress as the Female Changeling in DS9 and both have very similar make up effects)

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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If he ever said how fast the Defiant was traveling, would he be an Odo-meter?

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