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[Serious] Can a fire atronach, a elemental bound by magic to you, give consent?
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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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Are they able to make their own decisions or are they a slave to your conjuration magic?

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bizarroland lemmy.world bizarroland@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
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I think they only appear as part of a bargain in exchange for your magical energy.

So it's not so much magical sex slavery as it is magical prostitution.

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Khanzarate lemmy.world Khanzarate@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
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They are bound and cannot make decisions in that way.

The proof is in the conjuration master quest.

You can summon dremora, creatures definitely capable of speaking, consenting, etc, via "Conjure Dremora Lord" and they have no dialogue, cannot be ordered, and do not act as a follower in skyrim would, even an unwilling one. But, at conjuration 90, in the College, you can get a spell, "Conjure Unbound Dremora", which summons a Dremora that is hostile, can speak, and can change its mind if you threaten it with violence. That dremora, once unsummoned, can then willingly (under duress) go get you a sigil stone, and carries it back with him.

Clearly, there's a distinction here, the unbound version of the spell had no compulsion effect on it. This would be needed since after dismissing the spell, the compulsion ends, so they wouldn't obey.

Logically, if we can make a "Summon Unbound Dremora", we could make a "Summon Unbound Flame Atronach", and that spell would repeatedly summon the same atronach with no compulsion, but the standard version of these spells summons things in a way that prevents consent.

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cattywampas lemmy.world cattywampas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-30
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Is an atronach intelligent? If it's not then consent doesn't apply.

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Dadifer lemmy.world Dadifer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-04
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They are bound and cannot make decisions in that way. The proof is in the conjuration master quest. You can summon dremora, creatures definitely capable of speaking, consenting, etc, via "Conjure Dremora Lord" and they have no dialogue, cannot be ordered, and do not act as a follower in skyrim would, even an unwilling one. But, at conjuration 90, in the College, you can get a spell, "Conjure Un...

Would fire resistance potion save you from burning your special bits, though?

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Khanzarate lemmy.world Khanzarate@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
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Would fire resistance potion save you from burning your special bits, though?

Not completely, at least with Skyrim's rules.

But you could also brew something to do a little bit of healing over some length of time, with fire resistance.

It's a little more complicated, but it is definitely achievable.

Although if we assume unbound atronachs have always been possible, an old-fashioned Oblivion potion can do the job easy.

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Shadisica lemmy.zip Shadisica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-01
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Atronachs summoned from Oblivion, questionable, probably not in my opinion. The only way to get proper, uncoerced consent (aka consent) would be to travel to Oblivion and seduce one there, I suppose.

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fckreddit lemmy.ml fckreddit@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-26
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Atronachs summoned from Oblivion, questionable, probably not in my opinion. The only way to get proper, uncoerced consent (aka consent) would be to travel to Oblivion and seduce one there, I suppose.

Brb, gonna seduce a sexy atronach.

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Gonzako lemmy.world Gonzako@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-17
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Not completely, at least with Skyrim's rules. But you could also brew something to do a little bit of healing over some length of time, with fire resistance. It's a little more complicated, but it is definitely achievable. Although if we assume unbound atronachs have always been possible, an old-fashioned Oblivion potion can do the job easy.

Well, you can stack 90% magic rez with 90% fire rez

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