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HCSOThrowaway lemmy.world HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-04
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Today, for the first time on Lemmy, I received a message about posting being forbidden from VPNs.

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ozoned piefed.social ozoned@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-16
#2 · Quote Reply

That's not usually how it works. Sites ban and block IP addresses. Someone going through your VPN caused such issues that Lemmy.world blocked the IP. The VPN is being used to abuse people. That's not a VPN's fault, but the nature of the beast.

I personally don't think a VPN is even necessary with the Fediverse, as none of us are going to collect IP's. But try changing the VPN's location or trying a different VPN.

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NOT_RICK lemmy.world NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#3 · Quote Reply

I hit the same issue a couple weeks ago. I wonder if it’s tied to the Fediverse Chick thing or people who were spamming CSAM

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Staden_ スタデン pawb.social Staden_@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-07-02
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's not usually how it works. Sites ban and block IP addresses. Someone going through your VPN caused such issues that Lemmy.world blocked the IP. The VPN is being used to abuse people. That's not a VPN's fault, but the nature of the beast. I personally don't think a VPN is even necessary with the Fediverse, as none of us are going to collect IP's. But try changing the VPN's location or tryi...

Not sure about that last paragraph. How would an instance block an IP without storing IPs?

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FrostyTrichs crazypeople.online FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online
Joined: 2025-02-20
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

The info has been on their sidebar for years now.

lemmy.world

https://lemmy.world/post/11967676

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ozoned piefed.social ozoned@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-16
#6 · Quote Reply

Not sure about that last paragraph. How would an instance block an IP without storing IPs?

Yes, when you ban. You can see IP addresses coming through, but the fediverse folks aren't leveraging your IP for any kind of advantage. No tracking for ads or things. So what security precautions are we taking for Fediverse servers? I peraonnaly do the feel the need, but I'm sure there at valid reasons to do it. But if it's just tracking and ads, they don't exist here really.

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ozoned piefed.social ozoned@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-16
#7 · Quote Reply

Yes, when you ban. You can see IP addresses coming through, but the fediverse folks aren't leveraging your IP for any kind of advantage. No tracking for ads or things. So what security precautions are we taking for Fediverse servers? I peraonnaly do the feel the need, but I'm sure there at valid reasons to do it. But if it's just tracking and ads, they don't exist here really.

Honestly, if security is a main concern for anyone here, you should run your own. Anyone can run any of this. Follow what you want, then all connections to Lemmy.world come from your server you control that you connect to. I'm on piefed.social, but I'm planning on running my own eventually.

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TommySoda lemmy.world TommySoda@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

My guess is that the IP got flagged. In my personal experience, around 70% of VPN servers in California don't let me post on Lemmy for some reason so I just avoid that area entirely at this point. Unfortunately, shitty people use VPNs to do shitty things too.

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「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(old account, migrated to Piefed) sh.itjust.works DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-23
#9 · Quote Reply

idk man, sh.it just .works here 👀

(use another instance lmao)

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tal lemmy.today tal@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-04
#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

I dunno, but since the Threadiverse is federated, you can post on any community on lemmy.world (or elsewhere) that a federated instance can see by just creating an account on that instance.

https://piefed.fediverse.observer/

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/

https://mbin.fediverse.observer/

I mean, there are plenty of public instances out there to choose from.

EDIT: If @dsilverz@calckey.world is correct that it's some issue that CloudFlare is taking with the exit address on the VPN, you can check whether a given instance is using CloudFlare by running whois on its IP address.

For lemmy.today:

$ host lemmy.today
lemmy.today has address 5.78.97.5
[snip]
$ whois 5.78.97.5|grep -i ^netname
netname:        CLOUD-HIL

Not using CloudFlare.

for lemmy.world:

$ host lemmy.world
lemmy.world has address 104.26.9.209
[snip]
$ whois 104.26.9.209|grep -i ^netname
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
$

Using CloudFlare.

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zikzak025 lemmy.world zikzak025@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-24
#11 · Quote Reply

For me it works when I log out/log in while connected to the VPN. But sometimes when I'm at a different access point and my routing changes, it goes back to me not being able to comment.

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Willoughby piefed.world Willoughby@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-01
#12 · Quote Reply

ain't it typical, tho?

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Kraiden piefed.social Kraiden@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-21
#13 · Quote Reply

Honestly, if security is a main concern for anyone here, you should run your own. Anyone can run any of this. Follow what you want, then all connections to Lemmy.world come from your server you control that you connect to. I'm on piefed.social, but I'm planning on running my own eventually.

The gamble of the fediverse is that you're outside the realm of the blatantly bad actors like the Zucks and Muskerburgs, but you're also off the edge of the map. No reason to believe that there be no dragons here. Anyone can run one, which includes bad actors. I wouldn't be implicitly trusting that the hundreds of individual volunteers that keep the fediverse afloat all have good intentions. cough.ml serverscough

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VeryFrugal sh.itjust.works napkin2020@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-01-18
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not really an answer, but lassaiz-fair approach with VPN/Tor for a community like this is just a call for disaster.

Can't have nice things. Can't really complain either imo. Thats's just how the world is.

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HCSOThrowaway lemmy.world HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-04
#15 · Quote Reply

The info has been on their sidebar for years now. https://lemmy.world/post/11967676

To those who didn't click onward, the answer in that post is apparently 2 years (by implication of its post date)

Ironically it also invalidates the top comment in this thread claiming they aren't concerned with VPNs, just specific VPN IPs that have been abused in the past.

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HCSOThrowaway lemmy.world HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-04
#16 · Quote Reply

That's not usually how it works. Sites ban and block IP addresses. Someone going through your VPN caused such issues that Lemmy.world blocked the IP. The VPN is being used to abuse people. That's not a VPN's fault, but the nature of the beast. I personally don't think a VPN is even necessary with the Fediverse, as none of us are going to collect IP's. But try changing the VPN's location or tryi...

That’s not usually how it works.

It is apparently how it works for lemmy.world, as of at least this post from two years ago:

https://lemmy.world/post/11967676

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v_krishna lemmy.ml v_krishna@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#17 · Quote Reply

The gamble of the fediverse is that you're outside the realm of the blatantly bad actors like the Zucks and Muskerburgs, but you're also off the edge of the map. No reason to believe that there be no dragons here. Anyone can run one, which includes bad actors. I wouldn't be implicitly trusting that the hundreds of individual volunteers that keep the fediverse afloat all have good intentions. co...

Your coughing might have caused you to not hear that those ml server folks literally wrote the software you are using...

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-14
#18 · Quote Reply

That's not usually how it works. Sites ban and block IP addresses. Someone going through your VPN caused such issues that Lemmy.world blocked the IP. The VPN is being used to abuse people. That's not a VPN's fault, but the nature of the beast. I personally don't think a VPN is even necessary with the Fediverse, as none of us are going to collect IP's. But try changing the VPN's location or tryi...

none of us are going to collect IPs

Bold claim.

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Kraiden piefed.social Kraiden@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-21
#19 · Quote Reply

Your coughing might have caused you to not hear that those ml server folks literally wrote the software you are using...

False. I'm using piefed. Also, so what? Doesn't make what I've said incorrect.

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Fireside Fedi lemmy.world firesidefedi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-26
#20 · Quote Reply

To those who didn't click onward, the answer in that post is apparently 2 years (by implication of its post date) Ironically it also invalidates the top comment in this thread claiming they aren't concerned with VPNs, just specific VPN IPs that have been abused in the past.

It says its due to people posting illegal content. Also, if you see this, I'm running a VPN and it worked. VPNs are just other people's IP addresses that massive amounts of folks use. 1 bad apple ruins the lot.

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WhyJiffie sh.itjust.works WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-11
#21 · Quote Reply

That's not usually how it works. Sites ban and block IP addresses. Someone going through your VPN caused such issues that Lemmy.world blocked the IP. The VPN is being used to abuse people. That's not a VPN's fault, but the nature of the beast. I personally don't think a VPN is even necessary with the Fediverse, as none of us are going to collect IP's. But try changing the VPN's location or tryi...

as none of us are going to collect IP's

then consider that not only your server operator has the capability, but any image host too that is referenced in a post or comment

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asdfasdfasdf lemmy.world asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-25
#22 · Quote Reply

Your coughing might have caused you to not hear that those ml server folks literally wrote the software you are using...

the software is open source. we can verify it doesn't do anything bad. the server is what you cannot trust.

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UnfortunateShort lemmy.world UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#23 · Quote Reply

The info has been on their sidebar for years now. https://lemmy.world/post/11967676

NOT be able to [...]

Spoiler: You are absolutely still able to :P

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partial_accumen lemmy.world partial_accumen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#24 · Quote Reply

Not sure about that last paragraph. How would an instance block an IP without storing IPs?

How would an instance block an IP without storing IPs?

They could be blocking entire IP ranges. So they wouldn't have to store specific IPs. I'm not in the hosting industry but I would imagine there are groups tracking the CIDR blocks (IP ranges) that VPN providers use for their exit nodes. If such a list exists, a host could simply subscribe to accept whatever updates occur to those lists and implement the block for them.

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HCSOThrowaway lemmy.world HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-04
#25 · Quote Reply

It says its due to people posting illegal content. Also, if you see this, I'm running a VPN and it worked. VPNs are just other people's IP addresses that massive amounts of folks use. 1 bad apple ruins the lot.

Yes, that is what it claims.

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