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Archon_Warslut
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Archon_Warslut@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-23 |
whats the industry: "software - infrastructure" In contrast to "Agricultural Inputs" which feed the farm, Software - Infrastructure refers to the digital tools and systems that "feed" other software. It is the foundation of the tech world. If you think of a smartphone app (like Instagram or Uber) as a house, then Software Infrastructure is the foundation, plumbing, electricity, and frame that makes the house livable. The Four Pillars of Software InfrastructureThe industry is generally categorized by the specific "utility" it provides to other applications: 1. Cloud & Core ComputingThis replaces physical server rooms. Companies in this space provide the virtual space and processing power where websites and apps live.
2. CybersecurityThis is the "locked door" and "security camera" layer. It protects data and networks from hackers.
3. Data Management & DatabasesModern apps generate massive amounts of data. This sector provides the "filing cabinets" and "brains" to store and analyze that data.
4. Development Tools & DevOpsThese are the tools used to build and maintain other software. They automate the process of writing code and checking it for errors.
Infrastructure vs. ApplicationsIt’s easy to get them confused, but here is the simple distinction:
Why Investors and Businesses CareSoftware Infrastructure is often considered "stickier" than applications. It is very hard for a company to switch its entire cloud provider (AWS) or its database (Oracle) once they are integrated. This makes these companies incredibly stable and valuable. Current 2026 Trends:
Would you like me to look up the top-performing infrastructure stocks right now, or perhaps explain how "Cybersecurity" specifically fits into this stack? what exactly is the business model of companies like CrowdStrike, Palo Alto Networks, Fortinet? what specifically do they offer? i have a pentest os such as kali... could i singlehandedly mimic the same service that those companies provide for a company or at least for a computer? Companies like CrowdStrike, Palo Alto Networks, and Fortinet are the "heavy hitters" of the Software - Infrastructure and Cybersecurity industries. While they all aim to stop hackers, they have different business models and core technologies. The Business Models: Platform vs. Hardware
What specifically do they offer?These companies provide "Enterprise Defense-in-Depth." They aren't just one tool; they are an ecosystem that monitors everything from the WiFi in the lobby to the server in the cloud.
Can you mimic them with Kali Linux?The short answer: No. To understand why, you have to look at the difference between Offensive Security (what you are doing) and Defensive Infrastructure (what they do).
What you can do with Kali:You can provide a Penetration Testing Service. Companies pay thousands of dollars for skilled individuals to use Kali to find their weaknesses. However, they will still buy CrowdStrike or Fortinet to keep the "doors locked" after you leave. Hardware Examples (Fortinet)If you are looking to see what the physical side of this infrastructure looks like, here are a few standard entry-level to mid-range "Next-Gen Firewalls" used by businesses: Fortinet FortiGate FG-70G
Fortinet FortiGate FG-60F
If you're interested in pursuing a career in this, would you like me to find some Cybersecurity Certifications (like CompTIA Security+ or OSCP) that bridge the gap between your Kali skills and these enterprise platforms? they seem to offer classic cybersecurity software- stuff designed to react after youve been successfully hacked, by trying to find the hack and remove it. comment on that, as my first question. as my second question: what do you mean by: When a new virus appears in Japan, every CrowdStrike user in New York is protected instantly. wouldnt they have to develop a fix for what in that case is a brand-new zero day exploit, and doesnt that take some time? That is a very sharp observation. It goes straight to the heart of the "Signature vs. Behavior" debate that has defined cybersecurity for the last decade. To answer your first question: calling them "classic" software that reacts after a hack is actually a bit of an insult to their engineers! While you aren't entirely wrong—they do excel at "Post-Breach" cleanup—their whole business model is built on moving from Reactive to Proactive defense. 1. The Death of the "Cleanup" ModelIn the old days (Norton, McAfee), you had to get "hit" first. The software looked for a specific Signature (a digital fingerprint of a known virus). If you had a new virus, the signature didn't match, and you were toast. CrowdStrike and Palo Alto changed the game by focusing on Behavior (Indicators of Attack) rather than just files.
2. How the "Japan to New York" Magic WorksYou’re right to be skeptical—developing a manual "fix" for a Zero-Day (a brand-new, unpatched exploit) takes time. So how is it "instant"? The secret is Cloud-Scale AI and Telemetry, specifically what CrowdStrike calls their Threat Graph. The Process:
To your point about Zero-Days: They don't necessarily "fix" the underlying software bug (that's the vendor's job, like Microsoft). Instead, they "Virtually Patch" the environment by making the exploit path impossible to walk down. Can you do this with Kali?If you're using Kali, you are likely focusing on Exploit Research. You find a bug, you write a script, and you get a shell. CrowdStrike’s "service" isn't finding the bug; it's the Infrastructure that connects millions of computers into a single "hive mind." You could use Kali to prove a computer is vulnerable, but you can't singlehandedly provide the Global Immunity that comes from monitoring 1 trillion events per day. Would you like me to find some books or labs (like "Hack The Box" vs. "TryHackMe") that specifically teach how these "Defense" platforms try to stop the tools inside Kali? are their services all ai-powered/using? Yes, they are essentially "AI-native" now. In the cybersecurity world of 2026, using AI isn't just a marketing buzzword—it's a requirement to keep up with hackers who are also using AI to automate attacks. While these companies still use "traditional" code for basic tasks, their core value lies in their AI/Machine Learning (ML) engines. Here is how they specifically apply it: How the "Big Three" Use AICrowdStrike: The "Hive Mind" AICrowdStrike focuses on Behavioral AI. Their platform, Falcon, doesn't look for what a file is, but what it does.
Palo Alto Networks: "Precision AI"They recently launched a framework called Precision AI™ that combines three types of AI:
Fortinet: The "Fabric" AIFortinet uses AI to connect all their different products (Firewalls, WiFi, Cloud) into one Security Fabric.
AI vs. Zero-Day Exploits: The "Fix" vs. The "Block"To your earlier question: you’re right that a Zero-Day (a brand-new hole) doesn't have a manual "fix" or "patch" yet. The AI's job isn't to fix the hole; it's to block the person trying to climb through it.
Want to see the hardware behind it?If you're curious about the "physical" side of this AI-powered infrastructure, Fortinet's FortiGate series is a great example of hardware built specifically to handle these AI-driven security loads at high speeds. Fortinet FortiGate FG-70G Since you're using Kali Linux, would you like me to find some resources on "Adversarial AI"—the specific tools hackers use to try and trick these AI-based defenses? |
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