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Also so is squash lol

Not only that, banana is a grass berry.

What keeps a peach from being a single-seed berry or from an avocado being a drupe?

Edit: low-key love that we are all learning by sharing knowledge and evidence. It's refreshing.

Edit 2: Fun Fact. Did you know Oklahoma has Watermelon as the State's Vegetable?

Yeah this doesn't make any sense

Aubergines, cucumbers, kiwi, and citrusfruit are botanical berries as well. The correct answer is that berry should be seen as a culinary term just like fruit and vegetable.

Swollen receptacle tissue you say

The hard endocarp

Berries aren't berries. Vegetables aren't real.

Humans accidentally named blueberries correctly.

Now I need to know if Blackberry is a berry.

*No:

The usually black fruit is not a berry in the botanical sense, as it is termed botanically as an aggregate fruit, composed of small drupelets.

Pretty fruity

That's nuts!

Wikipedia says some categorize avocadoes as drupes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany)

All could’ve been solved with some inclusivity, but nooo…

A pumpkin is a berry?!

In other words, by my understanding, peaches have a pit containing their seeds, but avocados just have a seed.

Well ackthually... that's a legume

I guess so? Which I suppose means all the other gourds/squash/melons/cucumbers are too

Fruit is sweet, vegetables are savory, berries are what I declare to be a berry. Done and done

Man I am glad I tasted fruit before I read this.

Ah yes, my favorite berry... the avocado.

Do avocados not have a pit?

Most "fruit" are sweet because we made them so. And we did so with plenty of vegetables too.

Sweetest thing in my garden are tomatoes.

We call it that but the whole thing is just a big ol seed

Once you grow your own tomatoes, supermarket just won't do. It's a different world, we are tomato buddies

But how is that any different than a peach? I’m so confused by this.

Peach pits aren't seeds, but they have a seed inside.

Drupes have pits contained within a hard shell (I guess called an endocarp?).

Peach pits look like an almond inside of a walnut shell basically. Avocados just have a really large seed in direct contact with the buttery soft mesocarp.

I don't know who decided to classify gourds, melons, and citrus fruits as berries, but I imagine they had mischief in mind...

An apple sounds much less appealing when you describe it as an indecent (achoo) swollen receptacle tissue with a soft mesocarp...

Mushrooms in the vegetable section hoping no one calls them out

I'm so excited to start planting; all the tomato seeds we planned last weekend have already germinated

Pictures?

I enjoy a good pumpkin berry. Fresh from the vine.

I didn't know plants have ovaries. Does that mean that strawberries are like an afterbirth? Are seedless fruit menstrual flow?

Maybe humans could evolve so that the bloody placenta attracts wolves who then raise the baby.

Sick.

How about this: mangrove trees give 'birth'.

Fish are fishy.

And pumpkin, peppers, cucumbers, zucchini,...

You know that white stuff that the seeds attach to in chilis? That’s the placenta! It’s the spiciest part of the whole pepper!

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Looks like the endocarp in the avocado is imperceptible, whereas it is the hard pit in peaches and other drupes, per Wikipedia

Mom's spaghetti.

I can't tell if you've ruined chilies for me, or if something else is happening.

At times like these I'm kinda ok with portuguese lacking a "proper" word for berry. "Bago" or "baga" isn't really used, at least not in everyday life, everyone will always refer to them as fruits

It's the same as tomato being taxonomically a fruit. Taxonomically does not mean culinarily. Most people use culinary terms for these. Tomato is a vegetable. The first berry group is berries. Etc.

Chat is this real