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lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
Hardware wallets like Trezor and Ledger are terrible choice for privacy as they're more like hot wallets. You need to download their shitty electron app to configure your wallet and even if these apps are open-source I can't consider them safe, because they have toooooo much features. At the same time they're missing basic features like connecting through TOR network to them which should be must have as they rely heavily on internet features like online exchanges which can easily reveal your data. Do you have any idea how to access crypto easily while at the same keep it private and safe? |
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Joined: 2023-06-04 |
Since by design cryptocurrencies aren’t backed by banks/nations and any transaction is permanent, they are by definition not safe. At best, you can save out your wallet to an encrypted drive, then write it back to your phone when you need to use it. Make copies, so if one gets lost, you don’t lose the value itself. |
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Lemmchen
feddit.org
Lemmchen@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-12 |
You can have the best wallet in the world and not be private because you've not been using a private cryptocurrency. There's no amount of wallet privacy features that hides the fact that a certain address holds a certain amount or that a certain transaction has been taken place on a certain point in time. That being said, you usually only require the wallet vendor software to install apps on and update the firmware of a hardware wallet. After that you can use your hardware wallet with a compatible software of your choosing. You can also use a paper wallet of some kind (I think there are even some metal ones, but I don't know how you etch your seed words into them or how else they might work). You'd usually want to use some form of encryption on those though and then you got to store a secure key somewhere or rely on your brain to memorize an insecure one. Both aren't really superior to just using a encrypted wallet file on one or more storage medias. Technically you could even apply something like Shamir's Secret Sharing to make a M-out-of-N backup (basically multisig, but applyable to all kinds of things). Personally I don't think there's a perfect solution here. You have to die one death or another. |
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Młody
lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
You can have the best wallet in the world and not be private because you've not been using a private cryptocurrency. There's no amount of wallet privacy features that hides the fact that a certain address holds a certain amount or that a certain transaction has been taken place on a certain point in time. The only cryptocurrency (that I know of) that has reliably granted these guarantees is Mon...
Yeah, I'm thinking about storing Monero. |
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Młody
lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
Since by design cryptocurrencies aren’t backed by banks/nations and any transaction is permanent, they are by definition not safe. At best, you can save out your wallet to an encrypted drive, then write it back to your phone when you need to use it. Make copies, so if one gets lost, you don’t lose the value itself.
For me it's argument why they might be safe. Of course cryptocurrencies in my opinion aren't that safe and I have reasons to think like that, but I don't agree with your agument. |
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Voxel
feddit.uk
voxel@feddit.ukJoined: 2026-03-05 |
Yeah, I'm thinking about storing Monero.
Not a good idea. The value changes rapidly. |
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lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
Not a good idea. The value changes rapidly.
So what do you recommend for storing money privately (except cash)? |
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undefinedTruth
lemmy.zip
undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-25 |
If you want privacy you should be using Monero. If you use Monero you can use the official wallet together with Trezor. In fact, if I am not mistaken you have to, because from what I recall the Trezor Suite has no support for Monero. |
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lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
If you're down voting please share with your opinion in comments why you don't like that much my post. |
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mnemonicmonkeys
sh.itjust.works
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-17 |
If you're down voting please share with your opinion in comments why you don't like that much my post.
Because of this comment |
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chickenf622
sh.itjust.works
chickenf622@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Because of this comment
Yeah you're not entitled to people's time cause they downvoted you OP. |
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PiraHxCx
lemmy.dbzer0.com
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-01-03 |
If you're down voting please share with your opinion in comments why you don't like that much my post.
People don't like crypto around here - me neither, the only thing I know about crypto privacy is that samurai-thing whose owner was arrested on bogus claims of money laundering |
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Młody
lemmy.world
mlxdy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
People don't like crypto around here - me neither, the only thing I know about crypto privacy is that samurai-thing whose owner was arrested on bogus claims of money laundering
Understandable. In the past I was fascinated with this idea, but trying to use this in practice disappointed me completely. I'm starting to doubt in it. |
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corvus
lemmy.ml
corvus@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-21 |
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curious_dolphin
slrpnk.net
curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-11-07 |
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If the air-gapped phone is stolen, is guessing the PIN to unlock the phone the only thing stopping the thief from spending the victim's money at that point? |
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ki9
lemmy.gf4.pw
ki9@lemmy.gf4.pwJoined: 2025-01-09 |
These are conflicting requirements, true for all valuables: more accessible is less safe, more secure is harder to access. The solution is to split up your money in levels.
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Skankhunt420
sh.itjust.works
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-12-01 |
So what do you recommend for storing money privately (except cash)?
Use an unfreezable stable coin like DAI and convert to monero when you want to make private transactions. Never attach the ETH address with the stablecoin to your identity in any way no KYC or anything. |
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corvus
lemmy.ml
corvus@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-21 |
If the air-gapped phone is stolen, is guessing the PIN to unlock the phone the only thing stopping the thief from spending the victim's money at that point?
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curious_dolphin
slrpnk.net
curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-11-07 |
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In other words, restore the wallet to a different device using the master key, and then transfer the coins? |
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shortwavesurfer
lemmy.zip
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Not a good idea. The value changes rapidly.
By comparison, Monero is actually quite stable because it actually has real-world usage. I would recommend using the six-month or one-year simple moving average because that stops market fluctuations from changing the value of your net worth in fiat. Somebody above said that Monero wasn't a good investment and I have to disagree. Because if I'm going to invest in a cryptocurrency, I would much rather nobody know I have it than to have paper fiat gains visible for everybody online to see. |
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