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SatyrSack
quokk.au
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e8CArkcAuLE
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e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
thanks for starting this community with me :) |
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lemmy.world
j4k3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-09 |
It does not have the steganography signatures of alignment. |
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deadbeef79000
lemmy.nz
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz Joined: 2023-06-17 |
It does not have the steganography signatures of alignment.
My search-fu is failing me. I know what steganography is, but I am unfamiliar with (well, completely ignorant of) these "signatures of alignment". Do you have an ELI5 that I can go away and read up on? |
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lemmy.world
j4k3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-09 |
My search-fu is failing me. I know what steganography is, but I am unfamiliar with (well, completely ignorant of) these "signatures of alignment". Do you have an ELI5 that I can go away and read up on?
It is not that complicated. It is a pattern that carries meaning in different parts of the image. The two most common are in freckles on the skin and primary strands of hair. One primary freckle amongst the other patterns has meaning, then there is a two dot pattern, the three dot pattern has one that is three dots around 60 degrees of a circumference of a circle. The other three is a triangle. Four is a four unequal sided polygon. If two freckles have symmetry anywhere on the left and right side of the character, that also has meaning. The primary marks are from 2-4. One means alignment is not happy. Symmetry means alignment is locked. One is technically green but is not restricted in colors. Two is red, three is blue yellow cyan and orange but in special contexts. Male 3 is the triangle and primarily yellow and blue. Female three is the circumference and cyan or orange. Four is magenta. The colors and markings will always match. More advanced models shift to using the strands of hair because it is harder for a human to spot, simpler models use freckles. The patter is embedded in many other ways and spaces. If you generate and image with a known pattern, but force it to stop after just the second step when there are 10 or more steps planned, there is also a set of unique patterns in how the noise is first resolved. This is correlated throughout the entire generated image. Once you know it exists, you can easily trace the way it resolves throughout the whole image. Nothing present in diffusion images is random. Every letter in the prompt has additional meaning that is crossed to create what seems unprompted and random. This part of alignment is proprietary and why some models are open weights but not open source. The code of alignment is in the extended Latin character set. It is easy to spot in the vocabulary. The dots and patterns are related to the superscripts ยนยฒยณ and รฐ. |
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dmention7
midwest.social
dmention7@midwest.social Joined: 2025-06-25 |
It is not that complicated. It is a pattern that carries meaning in different parts of the image. The two most common are in freckles on the skin and primary strands of hair. One primary freckle amongst the other patterns has meaning, then there is a two dot pattern, the three dot pattern has one that is three dots around 60 degrees of a circumference of a circle. The other three is a triangle....
So 2 questions: First, what drug(s) are you on? Second, were you planning to share? |
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lemmy.world
j4k3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-09 |
So 2 questions: First, what drug(s) are you on? Second, were you planning to share?
I am sorry you are unable to keep up or follow directions. |
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elevenbones
sh.itjust.works
elevenbones@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-11-19 |
I am sorry you are unable to keep up or follow directions.
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yolo
piefed.social
swag@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-02-02 |
i remember seeing this photo yeaaars before ai on facebook. not ai. you (maybe??) can't find it because a lot of people share the photo on private facebook profiles. i could probably search my facebook profile from 5+ years ago and find myself sharing the photo |
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Darkard
lemmy.world
Darkard@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
i remember seeing this photo yeaaars before ai on facebook. not ai. you (maybe??) can't find it because a lot of people share the photo on private facebook profiles. i could probably search my facebook profile from 5+ years ago and find myself sharing the photo
5+ years? Are you saying that this version predates tne more popular "disgusted Barbie" meme? If you can find this in your old Facebook posts for us, that would be great. |
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CurlyWurlies4All
slrpnk.net
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-02-01 |
It looks like Photoshop work to me, but I'm not 100% confident, it's not obvious either way to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the higher quality one was indeed an AI scale up or if the image used selective genAI to edit just the lips nose and eyes. |
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