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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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Context: in classical Greece, Sparta built a hegemony based on its military power that was formed around a core of professional hoplites, which was rare at the time as most military campaigns were fought by part time soldiers who were mainly farmers, handymen, etc.
This hegemony was broken when in Thebes the Sacred Band of Thebes was formed, consisting of 150 gay couples who became professional soldiers, too. These 300 (coincidence? Idk, but I find it funny) elite warriors were instrumental in two major defeats an outnumbered thebian army handed to Spartans who encountered another professional military for the first time.
The Sacred Band being made up of gay couples was intentional, as the idea behind it was that men would fight harder for and with other men they had a strong bond with and there was no stronger bond than love.

Idolizing spartan warrior culture is widespread among "alpha males" and the manosphere. Another funny irony that followers and propagators of such a homophobic idiology idolize a culture that was defeated by an explicitly gay warrior unit.

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BillyClark piefed.social BillyClark@piefed.social
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If Andrew Tate is such a tough guy, why is he so focused on women? A real alpha male would go after strong men, not like those pussy loving straight guys.

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AreaKode riskeratspizza.com areakode@riskeratspizza.com
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He hates women so much, he's turning gay...

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Jerb322 lemmy.world Jerb322@lemmy.world
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" Unit"

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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" Unit"

Yes, the Sacred Band of Thebes was a military unit.

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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when when

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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when when

?

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blockheadjt sh.itjust.works blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works
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Where defeated?

There, defeated! There, castle!

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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?

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plyth feddit.org plyth@feddit.org
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There is more:

by Plutarch's account, this included sexual violence by hฤ“bลntes against paides,[2] while Xenophon says the relationships were widely but wrongly considered to be sexual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoge

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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Where defeated? There, defeated! There, castle!

Dang, missed that.

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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Yeah, I know. I put those words there.

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cRazi_man europe.pub cRazi_man@europe.pub
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If Andrew Tate is such a tough guy, why is he so focused on women? A real alpha male would go after strong men, not like those pussy loving straight guys.

Source

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Jerb322 lemmy.world Jerb322@lemmy.world
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Yes, the Sacred Band of Thebes was a military unit.

Fabulous

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npc lemmy.today livingsimnpc@lemmy.today
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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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Yeah, I know. I put those words there.

"ALPHA MALES" WHEN WHEN THEY'RE TOLD THEIR FANTASY SPARTAN ROLEMODELS WHERE DEFEATED BY A UNIT OF ELITE GAY WARRIORS

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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"ALPHA MALES" WHEN WHEN THEY'RE TOLD THEIR FANTASY SPARTAN ROLEMODELS WHERE DEFEATED BY A UNIT OF ELITE GAY WARRIORS

Yes I know. I put that meme in there on purpose.

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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Yes I know. I put that meme in there on purpose.

mission accomplished

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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What's biblical about gay lovers/couples from the fourth century BCE, four hundred years before the christianisation of Greece even began?

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mannycalavera feddit.uk mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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"ALPHA MALES" WHEN WHEN THEY'RE TOLD THEIR FANTASY SPARTAN ROLEMODELS WHERE DEFEATED BY A UNIT OF ELITE GAY WARRIORS

It's a boomer inspired meme that is now viral. They think it's funny. Ignore it.

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npc lemmy.today livingsimnpc@lemmy.today
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What's biblical about gay lovers/couples from the fourth century BCE, four hundred years before the christianisation of Greece even began?
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SnowmenMelt lemmy.world SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world
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Yes I know. I put that meme in there on purpose.

So why ? the comment that noticed it?

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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It's a boomer inspired meme that is now viral. They think it's funny. Ignore it.

well, explaining jokes makes them more funny

so maybe theyโ€™ll appreciate me pointing this
this out

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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Nah, don't remove it. It's a joke that didn't land, that happens and it's fine. I'm happy you got an additional laugh out of this.

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DagwoodIII piefed.social DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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The Spartans were also gay.

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CyberEgg discuss.tchncs.de CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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So why ? the comment that noticed it?

I wasn't sure they got the meme or thought this was an accident and I didn't want to be too in the nose, so I wanted to drag this out a little to be sure.

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DarkDinner quokk.au DarkDinner@quokk.au
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The Spartans were also gay.

And practiced child rape as a core part of their social structure... Same as Americans.

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Lushed_Lungfish lemmy.ca Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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What's manlier then two men? Besides increasing multiples of men, of course.

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definitely_AI feddit.online definitely_AI@feddit.online
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HERE'S MY JOKE WHAT YOU THINK, GUYS?!

Here's me explaining my joke in detail so you chuds get it:

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Didnt the Spartans famously practice homosexuality as a way of strengthening bonds between soldiers? The reasoning being that you'd fight extra hard for the guy next to you if you were lovers.

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KingGimpicus sh.itjust.works KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works
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The Spartans were also gay.

Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.

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arrow74 lemmy.zip arrow74@lemmy.zip
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Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.

Simpler times

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mojofrododojo lemmy.world mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.

all that tradition, destroyed by one innovation:

THE POWER BOTTOM

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psycho_driver lemmy.world psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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The Spartans were all gay or bi too.

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Nightwatch Admin feddit.nl nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl
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Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.

I think that was Rome?

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Etterra discuss.online Etterra@discuss.online
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Didnt the Spartans famously practice homosexuality as a way of strengthening bonds between soldiers? The reasoning being that you'd fight extra hard for the guy next to you if you were lovers.

They, and ancient Greek soldiers in general, also took young boys "under their wings" oh and had sex with them. Because humanity is deeply, horribly fucked up.

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KingGimpicus sh.itjust.works KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works
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I think that was Rome?

Rome came much later.

The mindset is actually still alive today. A lot of central and south american countries still have this mindset due to Portuguese and Spanish influence over the centuries. I watched a documentary years back talking about the history and origins of machismo in Latin culture.

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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I am totally out of the loop on the manosphere but do they really adore spartans? I think they adore the americanized movie version, sure, but do they like actually learn from real Spartan history because there would be truly a lot of homosexuality involved then

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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Wait until they find out about the Spartans.

OH DEAR

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Crashumbc lemmy.world Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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I am totally out of the loop on the manosphere but do they really adore spartans? I think they adore the americanized movie version, sure, but do they like actually learn from real Spartan history because there would be truly a lot of homosexuality involved then

Of course they're talking about not only the American version, but even that twisted to fit their own ideals.

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titanicx lemmy.zip titanicx@lemmy.zip
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I am totally out of the loop on the manosphere but do they really adore spartans? I think they adore the americanized movie version, sure, but do they like actually learn from real Spartan history because there would be truly a lot of homosexuality involved then

I bet Epstein and his followers, loved Spartans... Oh wait, they do....

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Bieren lemmy.today Bieren@lemmy.today
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Like they would accept historical facts and not the bullshit they make up on the spot.

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AllNewTypeFace leminal.space AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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As always, the alpha got mogged by a figglebottom

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ImWaitingForRetcons lemmy.world ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world
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Bonus fact: there was a lot of homosexuality in the Spartan armies too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

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