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DanVctr sh.itjust.works DanVctr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-02
#52 · Quote Reply

8 still has the 2k screen, 10 is a bastardized 1080p screen Is there really any need for a screen that small having that high of a resolution anyway?

Personally, I like to have a small font with a high density so as much info is on the screen as possible.

Also, if you like to watch Youtube or movies on your device, you'll notice the difference in resolution.

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MintyFresh lemmy.world MintyFresh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-23
#53 · Quote Reply

I also just switched to Linux! Well dual booting Windows for now but only for gaming really, and until I figure out if Ardour is good enough for me for music production. But still: Microsoft has nothing except my game saves now, no tax documents or web history, etc. What distro did you go with? I'm also looking into making a home server to ditch streaming services and so I dont need 250 GB of m...

Mint. I'm not a "tech genius" and it was presented as an easy intro to Linux. I feel no need to distro hop, getting by just fine with my little minty penguin thank you very much!

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MintyFresh lemmy.world MintyFresh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-23
#54 · Quote Reply

Jellyfin is the shit. Lemme know if you have questions.

No questions in particular as of yet. Still assembling hardware. I'm going for a server built on a NAS

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Hiro8811 lemmy.world Hiro8811@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-16
#55 · Quote Reply

From google? I got mine from second hand market

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BladeFederation piefed.social BladeFederation@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-18
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

Mint. I'm not a "tech genius" and it was presented as an easy intro to Linux. I feel no need to distro hop, getting by just fine with my little minty penguin thank you very much!

Mint is pretty legit. Their Cinnamon desktop is looking a lot prettier these days too.

I landed on Fedora KDE because I need gaming features like VRR, and still wanted features like Secure Boot & a distro with a lot of users and documentation.

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BladeFederation piefed.social BladeFederation@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-18
#57 · Quote Reply

Here it's us, real people rage-baiting you on employer time!

Ah yes, organic rage bait instead of Ai swirls fancy wine

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#58 · Quote Reply

The Fediverse is not perfect, but it actually blew my mind a bit how much it lowered my blood pressure to not see the constant ragebait, and the calm of not being exposed and monitored at all times. I still have Snapchat just for one person, and WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE. Other than that, I'm all in on FOSS privacy approved apps and man does it feel great.

It really goes to show no little of the abuse we suffer is inherently the Internet's fault. Lemmy feels like the reddit I knew and loved of 15 years ago. Sure there's some assholes I argue with but that's the normal amount of shittieness not the turbocorpo abuse

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BladeFederation piefed.social BladeFederation@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-18
#59 · Quote Reply

It really goes to show no little of the abuse we suffer is inherently the Internet's fault. Lemmy feels like the reddit I knew and loved of 15 years ago. Sure there's some assholes I argue with but that's the normal amount of shittieness not the turbocorpo abuse

A lot of it is hitting critical mass too. Reddit used to be tech enthusiasts and stem students the same way Fediverse is currently. Now any town idiot yahoo from the sticks will angrily yell at you on Reddit for no reason.

But yeah the algorithm is a lot stronger than it would seem.

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French75 slrpnk.net French75@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-01-16
#60 · Quote Reply

WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE As far as you are told. There is no verification that is true.

There is no verification that is true.

But there is a nearly continuous stream of occurrences where Meta is caught lying.

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cardfire sh.itjust.works cardfire@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-03-02
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

From google? I got mine from second hand market

That still drives sales and demand for future manufactured Pixels... Google thanks you for your patronage.

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ClinicallySane lemmy.world ClinicallySane@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-09
#62 · Quote Reply

Jellyfin is the shit. Lemme know if you have questions.

Jellyfin truly is the shit. Now if only I could somehow hook it into authentik and traefik for sso without pulling all my hair out.. 🤪

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Fair Fairy thelemmy.club sommerset@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-08
#63 · Quote Reply

From google? I got mine from second hand market

I don't trust Google hardware

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Quirky Quinn lemmy.blahaj.zone MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-29
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

GrapheneOS seems to feel the same way about Google: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685

GrapheneOS currently relies on Google for both hardware and security updates. The Motorola thing is encouraging, but they never should have built on Google phones to begin with.

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FoundFootFootage78 lemmy.ml Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-04-30
#65 · Quote Reply

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youmaynotknow lemmy.zip jjlinux@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-24
#66 · Quote Reply

No questions in particular as of yet. Still assembling hardware. I'm going for a server built on a NAS

This will be the hardest thing you will do in your life that you will never regret.

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youmaynotknow lemmy.zip jjlinux@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-24
#67 · Quote Reply

WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE As far as you are told. There is no verification that is true.

It is actually verified e2ee. However, they do keep a 'spare key' for every single user and chat, you know, in case they need to help you, the good guys at Meta.

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youmaynotknow lemmy.zip jjlinux@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-24
#68 · Quote Reply

It isn't American fascism of course. It's everywhere. But I get it, I find myself in the same boat traveling and visiting family. It really is pervasive. So in your scenario you can't just go pick it up yourself? I know there are other ones though: Everything in some places works like this where they want to do a call back - deliveries, doctors appointments, services. WhatsApp has almost, if no...

Lol, story of my life. But the best part is looking at people's faces when you say 'I don't have whatsapp' 🤣

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NewNewAugustEast lemmy.zip NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#69 · Quote Reply

It is actually verified e2ee. However, they do keep a 'spare key' for every single user and chat, you know, in case they need to help you, the good guys at Meta.

Can you show me where it's verified? Did someone get to see the code?

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#70 · Quote Reply

That still drives sales and demand for future manufactured Pixels... Google thanks you for your patronage.

They are low priced because they expect data harvesting to happen

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Voxel feddit.uk voxel@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-03-05
#71 · Quote Reply

I don't trust Google hardware

What other hardware do you trust, if any?

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#72 · Quote Reply

The Fediverse is not perfect, but it actually blew my mind a bit how much it lowered my blood pressure to not see the constant ragebait, and the calm of not being exposed and monitored at all times. I still have Snapchat just for one person, and WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE. Other than that, I'm all in on FOSS privacy approved apps and man does it feel great.

E2EE but with a caveat that they can do on device detection of unencrypted messages and flag content back to mothership

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BladeFederation piefed.social BladeFederation@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-18
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Gives me a jumpscare when I apply updates, not gonna lie

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Diurnambule jlai.lu Diurnambule@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-08-29
#74 · Quote Reply

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I hâte this reminder too. But the constant playsyore is missing permissions is a reward. Yes stay here little software keep complaining, your owner can go fuck them self.

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Diurnambule jlai.lu Diurnambule@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-08-29
#75 · Quote Reply

A lot of it is hitting critical mass too. Reddit used to be tech enthusiasts and stem students the same way Fediverse is currently. Now any town idiot yahoo from the sticks will angrily yell at you on Reddit for no reason. But yeah the algorithm is a lot stronger than it would seem.

Some are trying though. Some one tried to be a smart ass saying that us lemmyngs where cool with piratage when it is for random people but not when it is for facebook so we should be ashamed. He got his ass handed by multiple people. Good time.
Not even an insult was thrown <3 it was civilized, I love you guys.

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jali67 lemmy.zip jali67@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-29
#76 · Quote Reply

What other hardware do you trust, if any?

Murena Fairphone

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atopi piefed.blahaj.zone atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-19
#77 · Quote Reply

I made the switch to Linux and Lemmy right around the same time. Once I was free of it all it was like relaxing a muscle I didn't know had been tense for decades. Android is next... Just as soon as I figure out jellyfin....

do you know what to replace android with?

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durably465 lemmy.ml durably465@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-02-12
#78 · Quote Reply

This is the way

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Fair Fairy thelemmy.club sommerset@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-08
#79 · (edited) Quote Reply

What other hardware do you trust, if any?

Only Chinese.
OnePlus and Motorola. .
I'm waiting on Motorola to release a device specifically for graphene

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Voxel feddit.uk voxel@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-03-05
#80 · Quote Reply

Only Chinese. OnePlus and Motorola. . I'm waiting on Motorola to release a device specifically for graphene

What makes Chinese hardware more trustworthy?

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-30
#81 · Quote Reply

Not much longer im sure. I have no reason to believe that they will continue making it possible to un/relock the bootloader considering their push for google certified only android.

If I recall correctly grapheneOS is going to switch to Motorola for their new releases

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Fair Fairy thelemmy.club sommerset@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-08
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

What makes Chinese hardware more trustworthy?

It's not made by a US company. Meaning there is no insensives to add us gov backdoors or something for military or for companies like palantir.
Google is an ad company. They have insensitives to collect all the data on us.

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hagelslager feddit.nl hagelslager@feddit.nl
Joined: 2023-06-12
#83 · (edited) Quote Reply

Can you show me where it's verified? Did someone get to see the code?

As far as I'm aware Moxie Marlinspike made the encryption before it was acquired by Facebook. One of the founders of WhatsApp now finances Marlinspike'd Signal messenger.

In theory Meta only sees who you communicate with, but not what you communicate.

(I wouldn't be surprised if the bastards are trying to undo the encryption if they already haven't.)

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noodlejetski (he/him) piefed.social noodlejetski@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-05-26
#84 · Quote Reply

As far as I'm aware Moxie Marlinspike made the encryption before it was acquired by Facebook. One of the founders of WhatsApp now finances Marlinspike'd Signal messenger. In theory Meta only sees who you communicate with, but not what you communicate. (I wouldn't be surprised if the bastards are trying to undo the encryption if they already haven't.)

before it was acquired by Facebook

not that it really matters, but it was a few years after the acquisition.

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noodlejetski (he/him) piefed.social noodlejetski@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-05-26
#85 · Quote Reply

Why use WhatsApp instead of Signal? I don't go near WhatsApp because of Meta, so I genuinely know very little about it.

because in some countries it's been the default means of communication for over a decade, which means a network effect.

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lostbit feddit.nl lostbit@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-01
#86 · Quote Reply

I made the switch to Linux and Lemmy right around the same time. Once I was free of it all it was like relaxing a muscle I didn't know had been tense for decades. Android is next... Just as soon as I figure out jellyfin....

checkout Gelato for jellyfin if you are low on disk space

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dudesss lemmy.ca dudesss@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-27
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

I still have my CAD $210 Google credit from Google because they throtted my Pixel, and I might let it expire because I want a Fairphone instead.

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cdzero lemmy.ml cdzero@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-20
#88 · Quote Reply

I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

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Angelus7f beehaw.org Angelus7f@beehaw.org
Joined: 2025-04-27
#89 · Quote Reply

I'm glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it's sad that they are the exception and not the rule.

I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.

At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.

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Hiro8811 lemmy.world Hiro8811@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-16
#90 · Quote Reply

It's not made by a US company. Meaning there is no insensives to add us gov backdoors or something for military or for companies like palantir. Google is an ad company. They have insensitives to collect all the data on us.

Oh yeah cause China is known for freedom and privacy.

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Hiro8811 lemmy.world Hiro8811@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-16
#91 · (edited) Quote Reply

That still drives sales and demand for future manufactured Pixels... Google thanks you for your patronage.

Does it? I mean yeah there are several people that upgraded and sold their old model but they could as well go for another phone

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BrilliantantTurd4361 sh.itjust.works BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-03-10
#92 · Quote Reply

It's not made by a US company. Meaning there is no insensives to add us gov backdoors or something for military or for companies like palantir. Google is an ad company. They have insensitives to collect all the data on us.

I hate big tech too but i promise you China is no better.

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observes_depths aussie.zone observes_depths@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-16
#93 · Quote Reply

Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.

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GFGJewbacca midwest.social GFGJewbacca@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
#94 · Quote Reply

No questions in particular as of yet. Still assembling hardware. I'm going for a server built on a NAS

I strongly recommend TrueNAS Scale. It's built on Debian, and has full docker implementation.

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GFGJewbacca midwest.social GFGJewbacca@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
#95 · Quote Reply

Jellyfin truly is the shit. Now if only I could somehow hook it into authentik and traefik for sso without pulling all my hair out.. 🤪

I got a cloudflare tunnel going. Easy peasy.

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Fair Fairy thelemmy.club sommerset@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-08
#96 · Quote Reply

I hate big tech too but i promise you China is no better.

I'm. I'm going to disagree. All the antihuman inventions like AI and palanter recently seems to be coming from domestic geniuses

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stankcheez lemmy.world stankcheez@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-14
#97 · (edited) Quote Reply

I strongly recommend TrueNAS Scale. It's built on Debian, and has full docker implementation.

TrueNAS Scale's Docker implementation is currently really mediocre - it's implemented as an app store style experience - and deploying/managing containers via the CLI isn't officially supported although it works fine. They do have a more generic container management implementation in beta at the moment.

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cardfire sh.itjust.works cardfire@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-03-02
#98 · Quote Reply

They are low priced because they expect data harvesting to happen

Agreed! The shocking part for me is how few folks are forgetting the most basic tenets of high school econ, supply and demand.

They're aren't 8 billion used pixels to go around, and if there were... GOOGLE WOULD BUILD MORE. It's an ineffective boycott.

This joining gets me a lot of downvotes on Reddit, but I'm telling you, GOS acolytes are the cross-fitters of the degoogling world.

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kadotux sopuli.xyz kadotux@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-04-30
#99 · Quote Reply

I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

I'm on the same boat; FP4 + CalyxOS. Do you know have they (Calyx) confirmed anything about the projects future? Last I heard was in around december, and things were quite uncertain back then.

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idkman lemmy.dbzer0.com idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-07
#100 · Quote Reply

but seriously, drop the smart phone entirely.

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BladeFederation piefed.social BladeFederation@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-18
#101 · Quote Reply

I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

I hope they're not ending the project. They were pretty comfortably the best Graphene alternative but you'll need security updates.

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