Do people in Germany typically call for ambulances after their heart attack? Doesn’t sound like an ideal strategy

Also #fuckcars

Kinda misleading. This dude is a comedian and "influencer" (not really in the typical sense but he films a lotta stuff for online content). He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.

I ain't saying NYC doesn't have a problem with what he's saying, but I am saying you can see how he's not being entirely honest and he's incentivized to be dishonest.

NYC EMS story.

Cab driver gets in a fender bender with a 911 ambulance.

After arguing with the crew and supervisor he decides he has neck and back pain and he must go to the hospital.

A second ambulance is dispatched and, following protocol, fully immobilizes him and takes him to the hospital.

En route the cabbie complains about how slow the ambulance is going.

"Everyone else is like you, none of them get out of the way."

The ambulance could have just passed right through his front teeth to get by.

Why not? Ambulance at your house in 10 mins is not unheard of (where I am)

That's faster than I would be able to hail a cab or public transport. I sure as hell am not gonna cycle or drive if I am actively suffering from a cardiac arrest

I just imagine an old grey haired guy sitting on the kitchen floor taking his pulse

“Waaait for it not yet, still happening almost”

While his family is there clambering for him to just call for an ambulance

All the literature I’ve read states that getting help as fast as possible gets the best health outcome, not a doctor, just a dude who happens to have a heart

You better. If you do not arrive at the ER via ambulance, they will assume your case is not an emergency.

That’s pretty fucked,

sorry your Nana died, she didn’t use der zugelassene Krankenwagen! So we left her in the lobby

What makes the bicycle kinky?

10 minutes still feel like a lot. I don't think I ever had to wait that much for an ambulance. Though I do live in an atypical town.

No amount of dishonesty can invalidate the fact that in a typical german city that ambulance would be going literally 10 times as fast without any issues. Its not just stupid drivers, but NYC is also just a complete failure in terms of road design.

What? Do you think that people can predict when they will get a heart attack? When else would people call it if not after the person has it?

I'm not sure if you two are just joking or if there's actual some confusion here. What the guy in the video means by "before" the heart attack is before there's any indication you're gonna have one.

I really don't get your point. If people are around to help the person, they will and then call the ambulance. Where do you take the waiting from? Isn't a heart attack something that happens suddenly? Why would you wait before you call the ambulance if you know it will happen? Where do you take that from?

Even if they did eventually move out of the way, it would still be way slower than what happens in Germany (and many other European countries). Cars would begin to move out of the way as soon as they notice it approaching.

This dude is a comedian and calling things kinky is one of his catchphrases.

Another reason I don't like this idea of this dude being used as any source of information, I find his comedy routine exhausting and overly laden with tired, old stereotypes instead of actual humor. A lot of his jokes are "Germans are fetishists", "Germans used to be Nazis", "Germans are rigid and rules following" and "my wife is Jewish, isn't that bizarre?"

I mean, there are about a thousand people that can coroborate the fact that people block ambulances in NYC all the time.

Oh yeah absolutely I ain't denying that, I just don't like that this dude is doing this for content.

You mean filming?

Some societies consider the welfare of others; other societies don’t.

Ja, well.
Good luck finding someone to talk to.

In Germany, if you are seriously sick or injured, you need support from someone who can make demands of the hospital and the doctors, otherwise you get no info and probably not enough treatment and medication. If Mutti doesn't have anyone actively engaging with doctors and staff, Mutti is pretty much f'ed in proverbial a. Why? Because everyone is overworked and disillusioned and very tired, and there is never enough time or money to treat people properly because of the way our health system has been restructured: to be profit oriented - even public hospitals.

Still beats what they have in 'murica: at least you can get affordable treatment even as a nobody.

Thank you :) I’m happy you came around to my point of view

Well that’s not what he said sooooo?

There are 100% signs of an impending heart attack? What the fuck are you talking about?

Chest pains and shortness of breath aren’t going to cause most people to preemptively call an ambulance. Also the signs aren’t 100% lots of people have heart attacks without knowing it, especially women.

Why be so rude to people online? It’s not a good look especially when you’re incorrect in your statements.

I don’t know where the fuck you got ‘cause most people’ to do anything, all I said was the last guy is wrong for saying there are no signs of an impending heart attack

I dunno why do loud mouths like you butt into conversations and make false accusations about shit that was never said?

Well at least I know I can block you. Get some help with anger management.

Yep, have a good time excluding logic from your echo chamber!

Berlin is larger (892km^2 vs 783km^2) and less population dense (6 million vs 20 million in the metro areas). So... Kinda comparing apples to oranges.

Edit: If you want a real comparison, look at Philadelphia or Chicago. Those are a little closer to Berlin than fucking NYC. But, I guess it's our turn to start a World War this time, so maybe after NYC gets razed we can rebuild like they did with Berlin and focus on modernizing traffic patterns for mass transit.

The time to arrive at emergency should be the same. Death will not wait for you.

Must be nice living in a world where population dynamics and physics don't exist.

Apples to Döner Kebabs

Where do you expect them to go? They're supposed to fly out of the way?

I am a german i never seen this guy. Maybe he is more famous in the USA.

Yeah he primarily posts English language content because his humor is mostly based off English speaking stereotypes instead of, well, jokes.

Oh, yeah, repeating old '"funny'" stereotypes isn't really very masterful humor

Ya!

What ever...

The transcription is almost correct all the way except for one part.

When he says, "Whoever needed it, they're dead".
The transcription reads, "Whoever needed it, they're okay".

because social media platforms will delete your content and ban you if you continue to talk about the "bad stuff".

• death
• murder
• suicide
• rape
• guns
• drugs

welcome to the dawn of the age of new speak. I heard a 13 year old kid last week say "unalive" instead of "kill".

we're so fucked.

Germany has a higher mortality rate for heart attacks than the US

I've never been to New York, but as somebody born and raised in Southern California, lived in Portland, Or, and is currently living in Minnesota, I have never seen this. You always move over to the right. Immediately and without question. In California, Oregon, and Minnesota, at least, it's the law, and you can be fined for not complying.

Source?

Source: SpringerMedizin.de https://share.google/Y3pDiTAszdpbbClj8

That's just one of many such. It's about 1.5 times the mortality rate

So he's saying "send a German" but what I'm hearing is "tow a gurney with a bike."

This is Mario Adrion right? A stand up comedian.

I live right outside NYC and have to drive through on a semi-regular basis. People generally do move out of the way of emergency vehicles. BUUUTTTT, traffic is completely fucked in NYC. Watch the video again, cars are trying to move but literally have nowhere to go. This happens daily, if you're not out off Manhattan by 3pm your travel time is now at minimum doubled on an average day. Some days its 3-4x worse.

It’s to be advertiser friendly. All kids use new words. We did the same

I would take that with a grain of salt, since the study here says it only deals with death inside of the hospital (which is what is expected of a system encouraging the individual to flee the expensive place as soon as possible):

Considering the markedly lower length of stay in U.S. hospitals, it seems likely that more deaths following AMI occur after hospital discharge in the U.S., compared to Germany. This assumption is supported by recent OECD publications, which also report U.S. 30-day AMI mortality based on linked data. This figure was at 9.3% in the year 2020, compared to 4.9% when based on unlinked data. For Germany, national 30-day AMI mortality figures based on linked data are not available to date. In other industrialized countries reporting both figures, the difference between mortality based on unlinked data and mortality based on linked data was not as pronounced as in the U.S. (e.g., 5.6% vs. 7.2% in France, 6.5% vs. 7.1% in Spain)

In addition, the median age of patients is quite a lot higher, and as we all know, we all die at some time. If i am in my 50s and have a heart attack, sign me up for a German hospital 100% of the time, at least i am not bankrupted afterwards if i survive.