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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
I fucking hate speakerphone and don't use it even in my van unless a photo or document is shared during the conversation that needs to be addressed. |
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unmagical
lemmy.ml
unmagical@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-10-30 |
People use speakerphone in public because they want you to join in their public conversation. |
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Joined: 2023-06-04 |
For me, speakerphone goes on temporarily if I need multiple people to be able to both listen and speak to an existing conversation. Otherwise, they join the call on their own devices. I find holding a phone up to my cheek really annoying though; I could see secondary exceptions for people with wireless headphones whose batteries had just died. |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 |
People use speakerphone in public because they want you to join in their public conversation.
I endorse this way to meet new friends both in person and "on line" at the same time |
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viral.vegabond
piefed.social
viral.vegabond@piefed.social Joined: 2024-06-01 |
Phones have gotten bigger and heavier. It's easier to hold the device at a lower height when it's on speakerphone. That's my guess. |
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LeapSecond
lemmy.zip
LeapSecond@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-11-12 |
Many people do video calls too. I always get the urge to stand behind them and start doing funny faces |
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Jiggle_Physics
piefed.zip
Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-10-16 |
my personal view of this is that, as phones became something people were on all the time, regardless of what they happened to be doing, more people started using speaker because they are often doing multiple things at once, or need to pay better attention to what is happening around them. I believe that hands free units in cars have also played a part normalizing just using speaker phone, especially when needing to pay attention to what is happening around them in public. |
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tias
discuss.tchncs.de
tias@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-10 |
My microphone is broken. People hear me better if I switch to speakerphone. |
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entropicdrift
lemmy.sdf.org
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Phones have gotten bigger and heavier. It's easier to hold the device at a lower height when it's on speakerphone. That's my guess.
But why not use headphones? |
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Tomtits
lemmy.dbzer0.com
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-03-10 |
I like the theory of people seeing stuff on TV (such as the apprentice) where calls are on speaker so it can be heard. Humans like to emulate what they see, so they copy what they see on the telly |
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schnurrito
discuss.tchncs.de
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-24 |
For me, speakerphone goes on temporarily if I need multiple people to be able to both listen and speak to an existing conversation. Otherwise, they join the call on their own devices. I find holding a phone up to my cheek really annoying though; I could see secondary exceptions for people with wireless headphones whose batteries had just died.
I use speakerphone a lot in my own home too when no one is around. It's just more comfortable to hold my phone in front of me instead of to my ear. Never in public unless specific other people need to hear it. |
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schnurrito
discuss.tchncs.de
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-24 |
The way I remember it, on old phones before smartphones, speakerphone was a very obscure feature that many users didn't know how to turn on. I certainly didn't (I was a child at the time) unless someone showed me. On modern smartphones it's very easy, maybe that should be changed again. 😁 |
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becausechemistry
piefed.social
becausechemistry@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-24 |
Using speakerphone in public is acceptable in one scenario: your phone’s normal speaker/mic is broken, you don’t have headphones, and a loved one is calling you as they’re dying. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
Using speakerphone in public is acceptable in one scenario: your phone’s normal speaker/mic is broken, you don’t have headphones, and a loved one is calling you as they’re dying.
I can totally get behind speakerphone in that precise situation. |
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viral.vegabond
piefed.social
viral.vegabond@piefed.social Joined: 2024-06-01 |
But why not use headphones?
Laziness, maybe. |
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entropicdrift
lemmy.sdf.org
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Laziness, maybe.
Holding up your hand is harder, tho |
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Scott
lem.free.as
scott@lem.free.asJoined: 2023-06-10 |
My microphone is broken. People hear me better if I switch to speakerphone.
It's the same microphone, no? |
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viral.vegabond
piefed.social
viral.vegabond@piefed.social Joined: 2024-06-01 |
Holding up your hand is harder, tho
Logically, you're correct. Having to keep up with one extra thing, however, is probably more of a nuisance to these types of people. Of course, I'm just guessing at this point. |
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entropicdrift
lemmy.sdf.org
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Logically, you're correct. Having to keep up with one extra thing, however, is probably more of a nuisance to these types of people. Of course, I'm just guessing at this point.
Yeah, I get that, I'm just kind of exasperated at the concept. I see people doing this all the time and it's wild to me |
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viral.vegabond
piefed.social
viral.vegabond@piefed.social Joined: 2024-06-01 |
Yeah, I get that, I'm just kind of exasperated at the concept. I see people doing this all the time and it's wild to me
I agree, it doesn't make any sense and it's very inconsiderate to others. |
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Maeve
kbin.earth
Maeve@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-06-16 |
Hearing problems, poor audio quality |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
I care less about speakerphone than I do Bluetooth headsets or regular phone speaker use near me. The speakerphone makes more noise! Yes, but people already have conversations between each other in public where we can hear both sides. We train ourselves to tune those out. A speakerphone is analogous to that case of another human talking. What I find most disruptive about phone conversations near me versus listening to two other people talking (which I can tune out) is that the speech pattern of a phone user is to say something and then pause. The problem is that that is exactly the signal that someone has said something to you, and that your attention is required. I have a harder time ignoring those one-sided conversations than turning out a conversation where I can hear both sides, because it's basically constantly giving my head the "you just missed something and need to respond" signal. It's like when someone says something to you, waits for a few seconds, and then your attention gets triggered and you look up and say "what?" Now, the article does also reference someone turning a speakerphone way up, and that I can get, if you're playing it louder than a human would speak. But that's also kinda a special case. I think that in general, the best practice is to text, and I think that most would agree that that's uncontroversially the best approach in public. But after that, I'd personally prefer to have speakerphone use, above headset or regular phone use. EDIT: One interesting approach --- I mean, smartphone vendors would always like to have new reasons to sell more hardware, so if they can figure out how to make it work, they might jump on it --- might be phones capable of picking up subvocalization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocalization
You'd probably also need some sort of speech synthesizer rig capable of converting that into speech. A conversation where someone's using headphones/earbuds and a subvocalization-pickup phone would avoid some of the limitations of texting (not limited to text input speed on an on-screen keyboard or having to look at the display), provide for more privacy for phone users, and not add to sound pollution affecting other people in the environment. EDIT2: Other possibilities for the speaker side: Bone conduction This has actually been done, but has some limitations on the sound it can produce, and you need to have a device in contact with your head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_conduction
Phase-array speakers to produce directional sound Here, you need to have the device track its position and orientation relative to a given user's ears, then have a phase array of speakers that each play the sound at just the right phase offset to produce constructive interference in the direction of the user's ears --- it's beamforming with sound. Other users will have a hard time hearing the sound, which will be garbled and quieter, because of destructive interference in their direction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamforming
We more-frequently use this for reception than for transmission, with microphone arrays, but you can make use of it for transmission. You'll need a minimum number of speakers in the array to be able to play beams of sound with constructive interference in the direction of a given number of listeners. |
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Tharkys
lemmy.wtf
Tharkys@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2025-12-24 |
The only reason I can come up with is because they have oily skin and don't want to get it on their phone. Even that isn't an excuse for being a douche canoe. |
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dfyx
lemmy.helios42.de
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deJoined: 2023-06-05 |
I almost punched a guy on the train this week for something similar. He had some music on speaker for a while, then asked „does anyone think this is too loud?“. I told him that actually yes, I think it is to which he replied „well I don’t care“ and turned it even louder. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
I almost punched a guy on the train this week for something similar. He had some music on speaker for a while, then asked „does anyone think this is too loud?“. I told him that actually yes, I think it is to which he replied „well I don’t care“ and turned it even louder.
It was amusing in Star Trek IV, but that seems quaint now. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
Hearing problems, poor audio quality
Sure, but like, use your phone at home instead. It's like people bringing dogs to grocery stores and restaurants (we have something of an epidemic of dogs shitting in food places when they'd have been fine in the yard for an hour here in Austin). |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
I care less about speakerphone than I do Bluetooth headsets or regular phone speaker use near me. The speakerphone makes more noise! Yes, but people already have conversations between each other in public where we can hear both sides. We train ourselves to tune those out. A speakerphone is analogous to that case of another human talking. What I find most disruptive about phone conversations nea...
I can see where you're coming from on that at least with speakerphone, you know no one is addressing you. When I was at my ex's last week, she said something from the bedroom, prompting me to loudly say "What?" Her son had just called, and if he'd heard my voice, we'd not have parted ways on good terms. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
The only reason I can come up with is because they have oily skin and don't want to get it on their phone. Even that isn't an excuse for being a douche canoe.
Most phone glass is oleophobic at this point and has been for years. So that's a shit excuse. |
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parzival
lemmy.org
parzival@lemmy.orgJoined: 2025-12-17 |
I personally think phones should no longer be manufactured with full size speakers, just the quiet ones, in favor of battery or smth |
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Gerudo
lemmy.zip
Gerudo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-28 |
What irritates me most, people using speakerphone but holding it up right to their mouth. How fucking hard is it to just move your hand about 6 inches further and put the fucking thing next to your ear and use it like a normal fucking phone. |
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ClownStatue
piefed.social
ClownStatue@piefed.social Joined: 2025-05-13 |
It was amusing in Star Trek IV, but that seems quaint now.
What was amusing in Star Trek was when Spock pinched that dickhead’s lights out. |
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Maeve
kbin.earth
Maeve@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-06-16 |
Sure, but like, use your phone at home instead. It's like people bringing dogs to grocery stores and restaurants (we have something of an epidemic of dogs shitting in food places when they'd have been fine in the yard for an hour here in Austin).
People with several jobs, children, household errands or some combination thereof can't always time important incoming calls, for which they may have already left several voicemails to receive. Cinema/restaurants, I may be less tolerant. |
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sin_free_for_00_days
sopuli.xyz
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-07-28 |
It's just normal asshole main-character behavior. See ripples of that behavior across society these days. |
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belated_frog_pants
beehaw.org
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Because they are assholes who think the world exists for them |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
People with several jobs, children, household errands or some combination thereof can't always time important incoming calls, for which they may have already left several voicemails to receive. Cinema/restaurants, I may be less tolerant.
If you're starting with "people with several jobs," you're not addressing speakerphone use but rather the collapse of the social contract. |
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its_me_xiphos
beehaw.org
its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-12-30 |
The Kardashians and any reality show that needs to showcase a phone call for the audience. That is exactly how this all got to the level it did. People who watched and were raised on that media learned to use a phone like that and do. That's my theory. |
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tias
discuss.tchncs.de
tias@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-10 |
It's the same microphone, no?
Not necessarily. The Pixel 9P has three different microphones and they are used differently for different situations (but not all at once). All I can say is the person on the other end can't hear me unless I turn on speakerphone. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
The Kardashians and any reality show that needs to showcase a phone call for the audience. That is exactly how this all got to the level it did. People who watched and were raised on that media learned to use a phone like that and do. That's my theory.
You're making me feel very old. Reality TV was what permanently turned me off of linear programming. I gradually started learning about the Kardashians via memes in comments. |
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its_me_xiphos
beehaw.org
its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-12-30 |
You're making me feel very old. Reality TV was what permanently turned me off of linear programming. I gradually started learning about the Kardashians via memes in comments.
The future is now fellow old man (my joints hurt just typing this). If it helps, I remember the comforting noises of a 14.4k modem connecting me to the world wide web. |
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the16bitgamer
programming.dev
the16bitgamer@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-16 |
I blame the lack of a headphone jack. Done get me wrong, boom boxes were a thing in the 80’s and 90’s, and there is the modern day equivalent of terrible Bluetooth speakers. But without a convenient $5 tool to quiet your device it’s obvious most people will resort in speaker phones if they want to quickly hear something. |
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Crotaro
beehaw.org
Crotaro@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-01 |
I want to believe it's that others have the same problem as me that holding the phone to their ear+cheek makes that face-part real moist after a minute or two. And I choose to believe the speakerphone-speakers just never realised they could slightly tilt/lift the phone away from their skin and still hear perfectly fine. But I fear that @its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org might be correct on this topic and it's simply a case of media/influencers portraying phone conversations that way for better filmability. |
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theneverfox
pawb.social
theneverfox@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-29 |
I want to believe it's that others have the same problem as me that holding the phone to their ear+cheek makes that face-part real moist after a minute or two. And I choose to believe the speakerphone-speakers just never realised they could slightly tilt/lift the phone away from their skin and still hear perfectly fine. But I fear that @its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org might be correct on this topic an...
I think modern phones are just too big. I don't want to hold a tablet up to my face Personally, I just carry a headset, but if that dies it's only consideration for others that might stop me from putting it on speaker |
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Crotaro
beehaw.org
Crotaro@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-01 |
I think modern phones are just too big. I don't want to hold a tablet up to my face Personally, I just carry a headset, but if that dies it's only consideration for others that might stop me from putting it on speaker
Good point I haven't thought about. I have a Fairphone 4 and that is pretty much on the brink of what's still okay/comfortable to use one-handed. |
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Hawk
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-18 |
I blame the lack of a headphone jack. Done get me wrong, boom boxes were a thing in the 80’s and 90’s, and there is the modern day equivalent of terrible Bluetooth speakers. But without a convenient $5 tool to quiet your device it’s obvious most people will resort in speaker phones if they want to quickly hear something.
This is about calls though, not music. |
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HobbitFoot
thelemmy.club
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Probably how children were raised to speak to people over the phone. Until the iPhone, I can't think of too many personal phones that could put the call on speaker. So, if families with kids called other family, it was usually a form of one on one calls where people handed the phone off between each other. Nowadays, the default option is to put the call on speaker so everyone can hear everyone else. That set an expectation to where calls are on speaker unless there is a need for privacy. |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Just use headphones, how hard is that? |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
This is about calls though, not music.
Headphones are still the answer, but it doesn't have to be a headphone jack. Bluetooth works great. |
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YiddishMcSquidish
lemmy.today
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-03-10 |
Just use headphones, how hard is that?
I just start getting into their conversation. Answering both of them, and I don't stop when I get the "wtf" eyes. ¡Advertir! I'm gigantic, so your mileage may vary. |
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boonhet
sopuli.xyz
boonhet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-16 |
Probably how children were raised to speak to people over the phone. Until the iPhone, I can't think of too many personal phones that could put the call on speaker. So, if families with kids called other family, it was usually a form of one on one calls where people handed the phone off between each other. Nowadays, the default option is to put the call on speaker so everyone can hear everyone ...
I'm pretty sure Nokias could also do it on the speaker, at least some of them. But also I have calls on the speaker all the time for a different reason myself: I can walk around and do things with both hands. Sometimes I'll cook on a call, etc. But what kind of a monster does that in public? |
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Madzielle
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-11 |
I almost punched a guy on the train this week for something similar. He had some music on speaker for a while, then asked „does anyone think this is too loud?“. I told him that actually yes, I think it is to which he replied „well I don’t care“ and turned it even louder.
Ive done this twice, but most recently, I was in a doctor's waiting room where an older fella is brainrot scrolling videos. I'm trying to read my book and ignore it, but the sounds are so annoying. So, I as politely as I can, turn to him and ask, "Sir, Im sorry to bother you, it's a bit loud, do you think you can turn it down?" He snaps at me, "Ma'am", he fucking ma'med me, "Ma'am, my volume is only at half, it's fine". I said, "Oh yeah? Bet, mine too" and hit play on the Suicide Silence (deathcore) I queued up. The first time I did this, the person pulled out headphones immediately (maybt They Art is Murder works better), This guy kept going, so I placed my phone on the floor in front of me and pretended(tried) to read my book until I got called. Fire with Fire |
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HobbitFoot
thelemmy.club
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I'm pretty sure Nokias could also do it on the speaker, at least some of them. But also I have calls on the speaker all the time for a different reason myself: I can walk around and do things with both hands. Sometimes I'll cook on a call, etc. But what kind of a monster does that in public?
I'm taking about default behavior. 20+ years ago, the default phone call was pushing a piece of technology against an ear an next to your mouth. That hasn't been the default for a while. |
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