Bah just fix the browser first. Give a way to disable audio for given sites. Fix the regression that made it impossible to turn off JavaScript on a page that was already loaded. Give a way to edit bookmark URLs from the toolbar bookmark widget. Make about:processes show why "Firefox" (rather than a specific tab) sometimes gobbled the whole CPU. Etc etc.

A full redesign every 4 years really is insane. And for what? Is the usability really better? I just hope this also improves customization, because they keep breaking the ability to change browser colors.

They've also broken the plugin API more times than I can remember. Wonder if they'll do it again with this redesign.

I kinda like it. But yeah, I'd prefer them to focus more on catching up on features like HDR support, or newer CSS features like anchor positioning...

Too many UX designers needing to justify their jobs leads to this. It also leads to less customisation options, since they also seem to take it as an insult when someone doesn't like their "masterpiece" as is.

I don't like this style, floating and rounded corners. This is (customized) how my Firefox looks and I like it and I don't want to change it:

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Quite franky I am tired of these fucking rounded corners everywhere. The current design is fine. Already a bit too rounded. Just make quality of life and web compatibility improvements rather than change the look of the GUI.

Very different personnel involved in those tasks...

Their biggest challenge is getting attention, because most users just use the default browser. A redesign brings them into the news, as can be seen above.

Its just wasted space. Horrible design.

You need way more than designers to do a full UI redesign. And less customization is really just a product of engineering. It takes way longer to make something fast and customizable. So they choose fast.

To casual users, the sort likely to lap up Apple’s colourful new MacBook Neo or find Google’s Material You colour flourishes appealing, it’s the kind of change that could win over hearts and minds; a way to signal “I am like the others, don’t think me strange”.

This sounds pretentious as fuck.

It's wild to me how UI developers just can't let things be. Certain elements are timeless and just work. Why do you feel you have to reinvent the wheel every few years?

Because many are ego-driven tools that aspire to be the founder of the Next Big Aesthetic™️

Microsoft had an undo/redo buttom. It became the undo/dropdown, whatnisnin the dropdown? Redo.

It just added an extra click. That is all

Because it is

Also material you is absolute dogshit

But the same money

Atrocious.
If you want to try Firefox with a UI Redesign that doesn't suck, try Zen Browser

looks like shit. can't wait to have them fuck over my highly customized userchrome and having to make it again from scratch...

nice theme! gotta share mine as well..

I am happy with Waterfox. Time will tell if this redesign comes to it.

I absolutely hate this stupid floating rounded corners trend.

The whole point of corner/edge buttons is so that you can just jam your cursor in that direction and click without the need to carefully aim. KDE's choice to ship this as default for their taskbar was dumb af.

It gives the same vibe as the stupid freestanding baths trend in interior design, where the bathtub is disconnected from the wall, but also not far away enough for you to easily mop the gap properly.

I don't personally understand the side panel thing. Not for me.

I'm not sure whether i like the rounded corners on everything, but KDE implemented it properly. Clicking/scrolling while hovering the cursor over the panel gap will interact with the closest thing on the panel.

Ah it looks so clean and dense, love it. So much better than what is proposed to be changed into. At least we can make adjustments with custom CSS. Mine matches the system theme (from the operating system) BTW. :-)

If you want specific tasks for designers, here are some:

1. Expand and reorganize Preferences
2. Add an actual page for history with dates and times, filter, grouping, etc.
3. Add an actual page for bookmarks
4. Add a profiles button to easily switch between them

All of these require intensive input from designers and are a net-positive improvement, as opposed to the 4th redesign of the exact same scope.

Mozilla can do whatever the fuck they want as long as it don't break my CSS, also FUCK ROUND CORNER

What'd you customize here?

It looks like something from 1992.

The color scheme, more dense and compact styles, non floating tabs, less rounded, and here and there stuff. I even changed something after posting. Being able to make changes to the UI with custom CSS is amazing on Firefox.