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Well, That’s One Way to Sell Americans on Electric Cars | The U.S. has been wary of EVs. As the cost of gas soars, we’re now paying the price.
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fubarx lemmy.world fubarx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-07
#52 · Quote Reply

$8.21/gallon for Regular in downtown Los Angeles.: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/drivers-stunned-as-one-los-angeles-gas-station-charges-more-than-8-per-gallon/ar-AA1YCCC5

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#53 · Quote Reply

We have about 40kwh panels and 40kwh battery. We use roughly 1mwh per month, with our biggest consumption between our EV, kitchen appliances, and clothes dryer.

That's a very nice (big) installation. 😀☀️
But not as much consumption as I expected from the cost you stated. We use about 500 kWh without the EV, and 650 kWh since we bought the EV, we don̈́t drive so much, our battery can generally last a week on a charge.
Electricity must be pretty expensive where you live. Seems like you paid 3 times as much for twice the consumption as we do.

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nimisnimi lemmy.ca nimisnimi@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-04-21
#54 · Quote Reply

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/it-s-on-fire-tesla-sued-over-trapped-driver-as-safety-concerns-grow-20260205-p5nzvu.html

That's a terrifying way to die, and unfortunately, this would hold true for any vehicle with
"electric door systems, which can fail and trap occupants inside vehicles, particularly after a crash."

What i actually expected was an actual comparison of EVs based on their safety ratings (and not an anecdotal incident).

Now, instead, i have more questions, like "how many manufactures choose the electric door systems (over mechanical), why would they do that, and why wouldn't an obvious safety /reliability issue be resolved..." etc.

More like a complete disaster of safety regulations than a "deathtrap" of a separate manufacturer, imo.

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piccolo sh.itjust.works piccolo@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-09-15
#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's a terrifying way to die, and unfortunately, this would hold true for any vehicle with "electric door systems, which can fail and trap occupants inside vehicles, particularly after a crash." What i actually expected was an actual comparison of EVs based on their safety ratings (and not an anecdotal incident). Now, instead, i have more questions, like "how many manufactures choose the elec...

My understanding it suppose to make the vehicle more aerodynamic. But really i think it was because they were just copying what tesla was doing. Doesnt really matter tho. China didnt wait for them to figure how to make them safe

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Marthirial lemmy.world Marthirial@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-01
#56 · Quote Reply

$8.21/gallon for Regular in downtown Los Angeles.: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/drivers-stunned-as-one-los-angeles-gas-station-charges-more-than-8-per-gallon/ar-AA1YCCC5

aaaahhhh... Making America great needs your sacrifice. Would you like to pay with cash, card or home second mortgage?

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timbuck2themoon sh.itjust.works timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#57 · Quote Reply

Even with tarrifs, BYD would still be cheaper than most ICE cars... the problem is you cant register it legally in the US becuase it doesnt "meet US saftey regulations" but feel free to buy the deathtraps that are Teslas.

That isn't an argument for byd. It's just an argument against teslas and their dumb manual emergency lever design.

Are you really suggesting LOWERING safety standards for byd?

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piccolo sh.itjust.works piccolo@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-09-15
#58 · (edited) Quote Reply

That isn't an argument for byd. It's just an argument against teslas and their dumb manual emergency lever design. Are you really suggesting LOWERING safety standards for byd?

No. BYD probably already has higher standards than the US. But the US has for decades made the excuse of requireing stringent "safety" regulations in order to be allowed importation, but domestics get a free pass until too many lawsuits stack up... i mean BYD is already being imported to Europe. Would you suggest europe has less saftey standards then the US?

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#59 · Quote Reply

So let's see, the biggest winners of the war so far are Russia and Tesla.

Who saw that coming?

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PumpkinSkink lemmy.world PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#60 · Quote Reply

I have always heard politicians talking about oil in the context of "national security". "We need oil to be secure". It's incredible to me how infrequently I've heard people talk about how dependence on fossil fuels is the security threat. If we had a majority-renewable energy economy right now, most Americans still wouldn't be able to find the Strait of Hormuz on a map.

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exasperation lemmy.dbzer0.com exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-05
#61 · Quote Reply

cheaper Are they? I'm currently looking at buying a car and according to my rough estimates, they're so much more expensive that the cost of gas doesn't really even matter much.

Most EVs are comparable in cost to similarly featured ICE counterparts, but the manufacturers have mostly chosen to compete higher up the price ladder.

The Tesla Model 3 starts at $38k and can go up to about $55k with certain features. That's similarly priced to a Lexus ES or a BMW 3 series, which I think is roughly its competition in terms of luxury features, performance, etc.

The Hyundai Ionic 5 and Kia EV6 seem to be competing with things like the Toyota RAV4 and the Honda CR-V, and seem to be similarly priced between $35,000 and $50,000.

I know less about the higher end market segments ($75k+), but at a glance the EV BMWs, Porsches, and Volvos seem to be similarly priced as their gasoline counterparts.

Really, though, as the 2020-2025 models hit the used market we'll see a lot more used vehicles at affordable prices.

And once purchased, the actual cost of operation and maintenance is much cheaper. Not just the gasoline, but also oil changes and other stuff that comes from lots of different fluids flowing around (valves, seals, pumps), air needing to flow through the engine to support combustion, and the transmission of the rotational energy of the engine's narrow range of efficient rotational speeds to the wheels across the entire speed range of the vehicle. EV tires tend to be more expensive and wear out quicker, but the overall cost of maintenance is much lower for EVs than internal combustion.

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silence7 slrpnk.net silence7@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-11
#62 · Quote Reply

I have always heard politicians talking about oil in the context of "national security". "We need oil to be secure". It's incredible to me how infrequently I've heard people talk about how dependence on fossil fuels is the security threat. If we had a majority-renewable energy economy right now, most Americans still wouldn't be able to find the Strait of Hormuz on a map.

That's radical lefty stuff. You see people like Rep. Sean Casten talking that way but not anybody who wants to be seen as "moderate."

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Buddahriffic lemmy.world Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#63 · Quote Reply

I have always heard politicians talking about oil in the context of "national security". "We need oil to be secure". It's incredible to me how infrequently I've heard people talk about how dependence on fossil fuels is the security threat. If we had a majority-renewable energy economy right now, most Americans still wouldn't be able to find the Strait of Hormuz on a map.

It's because those words were sponsored by oil lobbyists and their offshoots. So much of the economy is based on it that it might actually be accurate (not that I think it should be perpetuated even if it would be painful to truly move on from oil).

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silence7 slrpnk.net silence7@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-11
#64 · Quote Reply

So let's see, the biggest winners of the war so far are Russia and Tesla. Who saw that coming?

The US oil industry is doing really well as a result too — at least the owners are anyways.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#65 · Quote Reply

The US oil industry is doing really well as a result too — at least the owners are anyways.

Oh yeah, next year, they will announce that they record record profits, and made more money than they ever had in the past, which means they gouged us mercilessly. Then they'll call for layoffs.

I heard someone on one of the political shows this morning, saying that when the oil companies celebrate their profits, we should hit them with a huge windfall tax, and give every American a rebate check. I'm all for that.

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silence7 slrpnk.net silence7@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-11
#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh yeah, next year, they will announce that they record record profits, and made more money than they ever had in the past, which means they gouged us mercilessly. Then they'll call for layoffs. I heard someone on one of the political shows this morning, saying that when the oil companies celebrate their profits, we should hit them with a huge windfall tax, and give every American a rebate chec...

Yeah, the oil industry owners are salivating over the potential war profits

Problem is that the Republican party is a patronage machine heavily funded by the billionaires who own the oil industry, so a tax like that won't pass while they hold power

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