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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
This was over a month ago, but I still think it's fitting as an electric vehicle. Reminder that it's possible to power cargo ships using batteries and electric motors. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
That's insane. Those batteries must the size of an apartment building. |
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thinkercharmercoderfarmer
slrpnk.net
thinkercharmercoderfarmer@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-10-14 |
That's insane. Those batteries must the size of an apartment building.
total capacity is 19,000kWh, an EV battery is ~100kWh, so maybe round to around 200 car battery-sized batteries. Maybe not an apartment building, but they'd probably make a two bedroom feel cramped. |
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WIZARD POPE💫
lemmy.world
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-12-08 |
How competitive is rhe range? |
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IphtashuFitz
lemmy.world
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-23 |
That's insane. Those batteries must the size of an apartment building.
The article says the batteries are in 10 shipping containers, so one charging option is to simply swap uncharged for charged, like a ginormous flashlight. |
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thinkercharmercoderfarmer
slrpnk.net
thinkercharmercoderfarmer@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-10-14 |
The article says the batteries are in 10 shipping containers, so one charging option is to simply swap uncharged for charged, like a ginormous flashlight.
I didn't clock that "containerized" meant "in shipping containers". That sounds much bigger than I estimated. Also never heard of shipping container batteries, but I bet/hope that becomes the standard. There could be networks of solar/wind farms spanning the ocean, charging batteries that ships swap out during their voyage. The more stations, the less battery weight ships have to lug around. Trains could use them too. That's cool. |
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Zier
fedia.io
Zier@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-06-17 |
China will be the world leader in renewable energy. They had a plan and left everyone else in the dust. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
total capacity is 19,000kWh, an EV battery is ~100kWh, so maybe round to around 200 car battery-sized batteries. Maybe not an apartment building, but they'd probably make a two bedroom feel cramped.
Ten TEU containers is 1,600 sq ft (40ft sq) with an 8.5ft ceiling. I think it's a bit bigger than you're imagining. |
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notabot
piefed.social
notabot@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
China will be the world leader in renewable energy. They had a plan and left everyone else in the dust.
Will be? As far as I can see, they already are, by some considerable margin. |
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notabot
piefed.social
notabot@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
The article says the batteries are in 10 shipping containers, so one charging option is to simply swap uncharged for charged, like a ginormous flashlight.
Great, its Christmas morning, you excitedly unwrap you present. It's a new container ship! Then you read the dreaded phrase on the box: "Batteries not included. Requures 10 container batteries". You rummage around in the odds-and-ends draw in the kitchen (we've all got one), but you can only find 9. Christmas is ruined. ETA: This is actually a very cool design. Being able to swap the batteries with normal cargo handling facilities will be a huge boon and keep these ships moving. |
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budget_biochemist
slrpnk.net
budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-03-17 |
That's insane. Those batteries must the size of an apartment building.
It says the batteries are in 10 shipping containers. One TEU containers has an internal volume of 33 cubic metres, so 330 in total. Even a small two-storey, four-unit apartment building is around 1000 cubic metres in total volume, so the batteries are only about a third of an apartment building at most. |
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humorlessrepost
lemmy.world
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
I didn't clock that "containerized" meant "in shipping containers". That sounds much bigger than I estimated. Also never heard of shipping container batteries, but I bet/hope that becomes the standard. There could be networks of solar/wind farms spanning the ocean, charging batteries that ships swap out during their voyage. The more stations, the less battery weight ships have to lug around. Tr...
Same, I figured they were running on _Dock_er. |
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Imgonnatrythis
sh.itjust.works
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-23 |
Imagine all the crude oil that thing can carry. |
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Hiro8811
lemmy.world
Hiro8811@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-11-16 |
That's insane. Those batteries must the size of an apartment building.
I don't think so but the fire will be amazing. |
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Gathorall
lemmy.world
Gathorall@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-13 |
I didn't clock that "containerized" meant "in shipping containers". That sounds much bigger than I estimated. Also never heard of shipping container batteries, but I bet/hope that becomes the standard. There could be networks of solar/wind farms spanning the ocean, charging batteries that ships swap out during their voyage. The more stations, the less battery weight ships have to lug around. Tr...
It is such a wasted opportunity that EVs didn't end up internally standardizing batteries to some sensibly sized modules. When the battery pack is an unit that weighs hundred of pounds and costs thousands, they buyer gets well founded anxiety on whether these will be available for earlier models or any by emerging manufacturers. If EV batteries had even a few different types of interoperable chunks it would be quite a bit better. I mean, a standard petrol car may have a whole engine worth ≈$1000, expensive parts a few hundred and of manageable size. The logistics (a single EV battery pack will trigger stringent dangerous goods shipping restrictions in most jurisdictions) and ROI of battery packs as whole units just do not mesh with the aftermarket economy, and I think it should have been given more thought to ensure and improve the long term sustainability of EVs. |
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frank
sopuli.xyz
frank@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-05 |
Will be? As far as I can see, they already are, by some considerable margin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China?wprov=sfla1 I think there's lots of positive development but no, definitely not the leaders in anything other than coal consumption right now |
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quick_snail
feddit.nl
quick_snail@feddit.nlJoined: 2025-07-15 |
Are electric yachts a thing? |
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notabot
piefed.social
notabot@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China?wprov=sfla1 I think there's lots of positive development but no, definitely not the leaders in anything other than coal consumption right now
It's not about how much energy they are producing domestically from renewables, but hiw far advanced their technology is in fields like solar, wind, and in relation to this article, batteries. They've made huge strides in increasing charge density, reducing weight, and bringing down costs, all of which puts them in a commanding place in the renewables field. |
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Apathy Tree
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-23 |
Ten TEU containers is 1,600 sq ft (40ft sq) with an 8.5ft ceiling. I think it's a bit bigger than you're imagining.
Wild, that’s roughly the size of the houses around me, just maybe a couple feet taller. That’s a lot of energy. |
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final_alps
europe.pub
final_alps@europe.pub Joined: 2026-03-09 |
Are electric yachts a thing?
Sails boats definitely. Day cruisers /small motor boats also. I think the big motor yachts less so at the moment. They demand range in thousands of nautical miles which is tough. |
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subversive_dev
lemmy.ml
Transform2942@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-05-07 |
How competitive is rhe range?
I believe the article mentioned that this will be specialized for short-haul routes. Pretty common way to start off EV adoption in general |
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night_petal
piefed.social
night_petal@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Aren't most ships of a larger size diesel-electric already? Seems like batteries just got good enough to replace the generator. Also, I wonder just how long it takes to charge that much battery power. |
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quick_snail
feddit.nl
quick_snail@feddit.nlJoined: 2025-07-15 |
Sails boats definitely. Day cruisers /small motor boats also. I think the big motor yachts less so at the moment. They demand range in thousands of nautical miles which is tough.
I mean like 20-30 ft ocean worthy sail boats. Something you'd live on for a year between jobs |
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