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jackeroni lemmy.ml jackeroni@lemmy.ml
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geoff midwest.social geoff@midwest.social
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Any informed opinions on whether Chinese people are in general more or less racist than Americans?

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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Any informed opinions on whether Chinese people are in general more or less racist than Americans?

🤷 There’s no universal, coherent definition for racism, and if there were, we’d still have to run two very large, expensive research/polling projects. Also these are extremely large populations (on extremely large territories), neither of which is monolithic. Also, how racist a people are doesn’t necessarily align with how racist a state is. In an online forum, it’s the kind of question that mostly just exposes some people’s existing prejudices.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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inb4 but muh bourne supremacy

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geoff midwest.social geoff@midwest.social
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🤷 There’s no universal, coherent definition for racism, and if there were, we’d still have to run two very large, expensive research/polling projects. Also these are extremely large populations (on extremely large territories), neither of which is monolithic. Also, how racist a people are doesn’t necessarily align with how racist a state is. In an online forum, it’s the kind of question that mo...

I ask mostly rhetorically to shed light on the idea that state mistreatment of ethnic minorities is a persistent human issue, and that it should be condemned wherever it occurs. The USA’s hands may be uniquely bloodied, but I doubt China’s are squeaky clean. I would expect any state of sufficient size and power to eventually be guilty of this.

I wonder if China’s population is more or less ethnically and culturally homogeneous than that of the USA, and whether this should be considered a bit of an apples to oranges comparison.

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hemko lemmy.dbzer0.com hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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  • I am here to serve and protect the elite
  • I kill blacks to serve the elite

Is the same picture

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Grapho lemmy.ml Grapho@lemmy.ml
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I am here to serve and protect the elite I kill blacks to serve the elite Is the same picture

In both cases, what you meant is the ruling class. Thankfully, the ruling class in china is the working class.

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zloubida sh.itjust.works zloubida@sh.itjust.works
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I ask mostly rhetorically to shed light on the idea that state mistreatment of ethnic minorities is a persistent human issue, and that it should be condemned wherever it occurs. The USA’s hands may be uniquely bloodied, but I doubt China’s are squeaky clean. I would expect any state of sufficient size and power to eventually be guilty of this. I wonder if China’s population is more or less ethn...

mistreatment of ethnic minorities

I mean… there's a genocide occurring in China right now.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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mistreatment of ethnic minorities I mean… there's a genocide occurring in China right now.

Yeah sure. Just like there's a genocide occurring in South Africa right now, right?

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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Yeah sure. Just like there's a genocide occurring in South Africa right now, right?

And 400 bazillion dead protestors in Iran

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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And 400 bazillion dead protestors in Iran

And 400 decapitated babies in ovens

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unknownuserunknownlocation kbin.earth unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth
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BoJackHorseman lemmy.today BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today
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Hello CIA sleeper agent

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unknownuserunknownlocation kbin.earth unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth
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Hello CIA sleeper agent

Shit, you blew my cover!!!!!!
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck what am I going to do with my life 😭😭😭

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zloubida sh.itjust.works zloubida@sh.itjust.works
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And 400 decapitated babies in ovens
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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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Go back to reddit

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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I hope the penalties for cop corruption in China are the same as the ones for politicians.

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Dessalines lemmy.ml dessalines@lemmy.ml
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I hope the penalties for cop corruption in China are the same as the ones for politicians.
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Sailor Anarres lemmy.dbzer0.com theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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All cops are bad actually.

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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In a typical example of proletarian police accountability, the CPC sentences a police officer to death for killing a pregnant woman in a restaurant in southern China. Why do Chinese billionaires keep ending up in prison? Why are many billionaires and CEOs going missing? China sentences Ex-Chairman of a major bank, guilty of embezzling ~$100M USD, to death in 2019.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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I ask mostly rhetorically to shed light on the idea that state mistreatment of ethnic minorities is a persistent human issue, and that it should be condemned wherever it occurs. The USA’s hands may be uniquely bloodied, but I doubt China’s are squeaky clean. I would expect any state of sufficient size and power to eventually be guilty of this. I wonder if China’s population is more or less ethn...

I wonder if China’s population is more or less ethnically and culturally homogeneous than that of the USA, and whether this should be considered a bit of an apples to oranges comparison.

the defining characteristic(s) of an ethnic minority is a artificial distinction that the culture you exist within conditions you to regard as important and it will be different from one culture to the next.

thanks to colonialism, some of it will have a superficial analogue to your own culture, but the ingrained distinctions stretch back for hundreds to thousands of years longer and most are imperceptible to foreigners; hence the entire "monoculture" assumption by westerners of the (mostly) non-melinated variety.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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All cops are bad actually.
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Sailor Anarres lemmy.dbzer0.com theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The ruling class in China is not the working class.

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vathecka lemmy.radio vathecka@lemmy.radio
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Cruel programming.dev Cruel@programming.dev
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Lol, another "China good, America bad" post. Classic.

Always followed up with accusations of American/Western indoctrination if you disagree. Bonus points for sinophobia accusation if you say anything bad about China. 🥱

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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Lol, another "China good, America bad" post. Classic. Always followed up with accusations of American/Western indoctrination if you disagree. Bonus points for sinophobia accusation if you say anything bad about China. 🥱

These kinds of maximalist statements you're making reek of the conservative "I got kicked out just for having a different opinion!"

Like yeah actually if the "anything bad" you say is the same Epstein empire propaganda bullshit meant to justify bombing shitloads of people -like they're doing right now- then those with a mind and soul will react poorly to that.

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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Oh you like China? How does it feel to like [thing that is a problem in capitalist countries but largely doesn't happen in China], commie

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Cruel programming.dev Cruel@programming.dev
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These kinds of maximalist statements you're making reek of the conservative "I got kicked out just for having a different opinion!" Like yeah actually if the "anything bad" you say is the same Epstein empire propaganda bullshit meant to justify bombing shitloads of people -like they're doing right now- then those with a mind and soul will react poorly to that.

Imagine using the term "Epstein empire" while accusing someone else of being subjected to propaganda. 🤣

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-23
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Imagine using the term "Epstein empire" while accusing someone else of being subjected to propaganda. 🤣

You're not actually saying anything, this is just like 3 meaningless internet argument signifiers smashed together with a "definitely not mad" emoji.

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taygaloocat leminal.space taygaloocat@leminal.space
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Lol, another "China good, America bad" post. Classic. Always followed up with accusations of American/Western indoctrination if you disagree. Bonus points for sinophobia accusation if you say anything bad about China. 🥱

I've been studying Chinese for years and I've visited for a while too.

China is mid. It's impressive how they've advanced so quickly, but their working class is still under a lot of stress and the wealth disparity is grotesque like many countries.
They've exchanged the freedom to criticize the powers that be for safety and security.

I think they've gotten relatively lucky with Xi Jinping. He's clever and I think generally tries to do the right thing, but when he's gone I think China is likely to suffer under whoever replaces him.

It's just that compared to the US even the slimiest turd looks like gold at the moment.

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