If you flip the two on the left you have a political compass meme!

I never saw the dildo one, but it looks like a fun watch.

Haha, you're right!

I actually restarted my local chapter of Food not Bombs (feeding ppl) because of the frame on the bottom left.

Early 20's, watching late night comedy central with my three dude roommates. A commercial comes on for some sexual woman objectification show/ad. I got upset at these dudes response to it.They said I was making a big deal about nothing. I got mad it exsisted. I got so mad I left the apt. I went for a walk in my city sometime after midnight.

On my walk, I noticed a very elderly lady, hunting folks recycle bins for returnables. I approached her, she didnt speak english hardly, little polish lady. I cried with her, I said you shouldnt have to do this. We had like four bags full on our back porch. I asked her to wait, and I brought them to her. I then looked into volunteer work. Found Food not Bombs in the next city over, and restarted our chapter.

All because I was so mad about "See tits now! Order our titty tapes!"

My favorite Billy Mayes joke.

You’re dieing in a hospital. You walk towards the light and met by bill mayse who says calmly “but wait there’s more!” As he reaches out his hand to you.

If I suddenly woke up at 4am in the 2000s, that's so much I'll need to do the change the future. The infomercials will need you wait.

Ah, girls gone wild. Misogyny, exploitation, and preying on the drunk. Good times.

Do you mind my asking what region you are from?

North Eastern US

Interesting.

Why?

dear lort WHY is it interesting!?

... I should call her.

Well, so, also a bomber and I founded a handful of local chapters and participated in some very long standing ones. And its just interesting to find out how people find their way to FNB/ punk/ DIY/ collectivism and what ends up being the motivator.

You think that's fucked up, ever heard of BumFights?

They'd go around, pay homeless people to beat the shit out of each other, film it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumfights

Technically not in the 90s, but whoo boy.

okay, sorry thought I may have doxxed myself (not that it matters but) thank you for clarifying

Yeah my original guess was northern European, so it was interesting to find out that you were based in the US.

Well if you want the more detailed answer, its something I noticed in some European punks I knew, which is that while we agreed on some values, we were very much not aligned on other values. Specifically, I think there is real departure in feminism, sex-positivity, body-positivity, etc, within the punk/ DIY/ communities, so finding out how and why people come to the movement, especially more recently (where I started participating in fnb almost 3 decades ago).

That is interesting.

which is that while we agreed on some values, we were very much not aligned on other values.

While I dont think Ive an issue with body positivity, I do have lingering sex-positivity issues I guess. It's all in how it's presented, for me. I dislike objectification, and I can accept it's a "me" issue. But anyway, I found the same things true when I was active around other punks and at shows and stuff. In my younger years I thought if someone was into alternative whatever, it meant they were safe. This is not true, age taught me. Or maybe things changed, either way. I'm not involved at all anymore, I do love to see what young ppl are doing though. I am thrilled to hear you are active with FnB after three decades. Kudos for you mate!

Thank you for sharing the detailed answer, I panicked for a second, and it is interesting. Def not from N. Europe, this surprised me. I do cry when I see places children can freely ride bikes in their neighborhoods and to school. So, there's that.

Yeah, thanks for the consideration. And I think your journey highlights a conclusion/ hypothesis I had when I was trying to understand these differences with the anarchists I was hanging with from Europe. Regardless of anyone's individual philosophy, a strong component of being part of alternative culture is a rejection of whatever you perceive to be mainstream culture. And so even though you are trying to reject that culture, in that rejection, you are also allowing it to define you.

So if you perceive the mainstream culture to be exploitative of women through objectification, that might form part of the identity as part of your act of rejecting that culture. Or, alternatively, if you perceive the mainstream culture to be sexually repressive, you might adopt sex-positivity as part of your identity.

Among the Euro-punks I knew, this manifested as a clearly much more conservative view of sexuality and its relationship to resistance politics.

You make me want to be a better person.

Where were you living that had sex toy ads on TV? I didn't even see that in LA

Idk if there was anything sexual positive about the girls gone wild tapes, you were right to get the ick from them.

Damn, based

Yeah, I absolutely believe there's good feminist porn. But ggw feels exploitative in a way that modern internet gw communities feel the opposite of. It's a company going to where young women are being a bit wild, often shitfaced drunk or high, and encouraging them to flash the camera. It also feels like it has a peer pressure element to it. Modern gw communities are also women showing skin for fun, but nobody is encouraging it for their own profit and you go to it instead of it going to where you're having young adult revelry.

Like, I'm a slut in my 30s. I even enjoy casual stuff and showing off my body. But girls gone wild pings my "hey, this isn't just safe slutty fun" senses, it feels more like someone getting out a camera when they see you're freeing the nipple in a nonsexual way.

Crack open a Sierra Mist, eat a few Kudos, and watch the TV guide channel all the way through... twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaE7sJahiw

Billy Mays was the shit when he died.

Yeah, I remember that. I'm pretty sure they prosecuted the fuckwits involved.

Not enough George Lopez