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Pyr
lemmy.ca
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-11 |
I've twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus' name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending. I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales. Matthew 7:7-11 7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you...
People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
I've twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus' name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending. I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales. Matthew 7:7-11 7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you...
Playing devil's advocate: science hasn't cracked any of those yet either. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
To be fair religion is probably how he got his arm blown off in the first place
...with a bit of technology just for spice. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. Itβs poetry in motion.
May the Reverend Magnus Pike be forever remembered. |
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BradleyUffner
lemmy.world
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
Playing devil's advocate: science hasn't cracked any of those yet either.
Solving those problems is not part of science's purview. |
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Zacryon
feddit.org
Zacryon@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-10 |
Playing devil's advocate: science hasn't cracked any of those yet either.
It has helped to improve on those issues though. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Solving those problems is not part of science's purview.
It absolutely is. They're sociology problems. Observations can be made on causal factors in society, changes made, effects observed, results shared. Have a read of the book "The Science Of Racism" for how science can give a insight into dealing with a social issue. |
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CannonFodder
lemmy.world
CannonFodder@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-22 |
Side topic: I think Pascal's Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didn't make an afterlife and won't interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if there's a flying spaghetti monster out there and that's what god is? /rant
What if there's a good? No, no chance of that, I'm afraid. |
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Jack
lemmy.ca
Jack@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Playing devil's advocate: science hasn't cracked any of those yet either.
True, and the scientific method and results have made wars more intensely deadly; but science doesn't make ridiculous claims like religions and other scam-artists who claims that if you say some magic words you can have absolutely anything you want. The scientific method is by far the best way we've found that lets us figure out what is real and what is nonsense - no other method comes anywhere close to it. |
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Cattail
lemmy.world
Cattail@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
Religion: "thanks to our prayers we made it possible for science to create a prosthetic limb" |
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Cattail
lemmy.world
Cattail@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
I've twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus' name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending. I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales. Matthew 7:7-11 7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you...
I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war that's clearly ongoing |
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cynar
lemmy.world
cynar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Of course, it's all primitive dogshit, basically early 20th century sticks with fancier motors. Big deal. We need to figure out how to regrow limbs. A stupid salamander can do it.
There's some evidence that mammals never lost the ability. Unfortunately, our scarring response is massively faster and locks wounds down. A few years back, they engineered mice to lack a gene, to find out what it did. Initially, someone got in trouble for not properly marking the modified mice (via holes in their ears). They later discovered the holes healed completely, including regenerating fur etc. Unfortunately, it also makes recovery from larger wounds difficult, since without a scarring response they don't close quickly. |
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HugeNerd
lemmy.ca
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-06 |
There's some evidence that mammals never lost the ability. Unfortunately, our scarring response is massively faster and locks wounds down. A few years back, they engineered mice to lack a gene, to find out what it did. Initially, someone got in trouble for not properly marking the modified mice (via holes in their ears). They later discovered the holes healed completely, including regenerating ...
Yes, I've read some old books that talk about the "current of injury" and how you can induce something like regeneration in humans if you leave the scab alone, but only for small things like fingertips. I suspect, as you say, that you trade one thing off for another, but we're all office workers these days so we can probably figure out something even for large wounds, since we can just sit around for weeks and heal. I hope that when this AI craze dies down that we can redirect our humongous computing resources to simulating entire cells, maybe entire organs. Deep down I'm a life extension nutter but reality had a way to knock that out of me... |
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socsa
piefed.social
socsa@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-20 |
Religious people aren't bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don't come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they're absolutely shocked and dismayed. My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They're just too stupid to realize it.
There's a reason why "virtue signalling" was a term originally coined to describe faith behaviors. |
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El_guapazo
lemmy.world
El_guapazo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-04 |
Kai Winn enters the chat |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
can we stop with this early 2010s debate? it's bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability. the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism... Science and technology advancemen...
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π DrRedOctopus ππ
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
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religion is only allowed to exist if it benefits capitalism. at least the organized toxic ones |
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YaGirlAutumn
leminal.space
YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space Joined: 2025-12-03 |
Side topic: I think Pascal's Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didn't make an afterlife and won't interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if there's a flying spaghetti monster out there and that's what god is? /rant
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orioler25
lemmy.world
orioler25@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-10-19 |
Well, I'm sure scientists have never overlooked the impact of social conditions before as they are obviously irrelevant to how the natural world works. |
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Quibblekrust
thelemmy.club
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-02-09 |
It figures a religious nut would think it's called a "car engine" light and not a "check engine" light. |
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psud
aussie.zone
psud@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-07-26 |
If god took your foreskin, it's because He had a bigger plan for it. Probably the universe's biggest tapestry.
Pretty sure it's just dumped in hazardous waste |
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Joined: 2023-10-29 |
There's some evidence that mammals never lost the ability. Unfortunately, our scarring response is massively faster and locks wounds down. A few years back, they engineered mice to lack a gene, to find out what it did. Initially, someone got in trouble for not properly marking the modified mice (via holes in their ears). They later discovered the holes healed completely, including regenerating ...
I mean holes in ears healing and closing up is one thing, entire limbs regrowing is another, and we already know from salamanders and lizards that things can go wrong:
Who's to say a regrown human arm won't have similar issues, possibly even internal issues only humans would notice due to having opposable fingers. |
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Joined: 2023-10-29 |
can we stop with this early 2010s debate? it's bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability. the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism... Science and technology advancemen...
Let's also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. They're getting better but they still aren't great. |
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π DrRedOctopus ππ
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability. Let's also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. They're getting better but they still aren't great.
not sure how that field is going, but I'm still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldn't make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property. they didn't get into the "bring sigh to the blind" business to help people, just for the business part. |
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Joined: 2023-10-29 |
not sure how that field is going, but I'm still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldn't make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property. they didn't get into the "bring sigh to the blind" business to help people, just for the business part.
Yeah that's really shitty, just another shitty aspect of capitalism protecting businesses and not people. Actually actively screwing people over for money. |
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Chaos
lemmy.ml
SsxChaos@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Religious people aren't bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don't come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they're absolutely shocked and dismayed. My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They're just too stupid to realize it.
Lucky for me all the religious people I know are into science and only trust science and technology to make a change in anything in life but in about creation and unforseen things deep in their heads they just want to believe.. |
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