But what about his soul

Amazing.

Religious people aren't bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don't come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they're absolutely shocked and dismayed.

My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They're just too stupid to realize it.

no science --> no engineering --> no Kia

You're missing part of the appeal. In the right column, there's a huge pile of money going toward the design and production of that arm. In the left column, there's a huge pile of money going to a faith healer's private jet. Sure, functioning prosthetic arms are pretty cool, but private jets are super cool.

Religion:

If have only 1 hand, to be happy, just have to join them both

I look at it this way in terms of spirituallity... (Aka psychopath minded religion excluded.)

Kid has 1 arm.

Community that doesn't have the means or knowledge for science helps promote hope and faith that keeps the kid going.

Science does it's thing, as it always has and creates an arm.

Kid is able to get the new arm because the community and faith helped keep his spirits up so he didn't suicide out of hopelessness.

...The real enemy is the marketing and psychological manipulation tainting everything. It's not just religions. It rapes everything for all that it can benefit from. Every demographic is observed and bled of all its authentic soul. From religions, to cultures, governments, arts, and even sciences.

No one prays harder than a scientist waiting for a peer review.

Please God, I just ask that reviewer number 2 comes to their fucking senses for 17 minutes to approve my paper.

Meh. It's not like religious people aren't also doing science. Like most of my labmates are slightly religious (but I'm not lol).

Why not foster hope through science? Religion is unneeded for that.

Plus, if the situation was hopeless scientifically, the kid would be better off accepting reality than to endlessly hope for something that will never come. Just build with what he can instead of daydreaming about what can't be.

can we stop with this early 2010s debate?

it's bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.

the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism...

Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesn't advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.

Saying that as an absolute science nerd with a STEM PhD,

Religion just doesn't work as well if you don't have a priest to molest the kid, this experiment ignores that and is therefore ipso facto dumbo, point blank period end of story nuff said

Faith healing works. I know because it cured me of my decapitation after I was cremated and my remains were fed to a giant lizard.

Thought the second religion image was suppose to be an Epstein joke

Not mutually exclusive though I can understand how the West's experience has led them to that conclusion.

Though there are many scientists in the West that are religious.

One should understand that the purpose of prayer and community isn't necessarily to improve material circumstances.

Religion: thoughts and prayers
Science: thoughts and peers

God took away the foreskin...

Science will bring it back...

I'm 14...

And part of my dick is missing...

science vs religion debate has been around at least since the 1980s.

/s

Glowing handjob hand unlocked

Ok got it.

Okay just hear me out, i know people who didnt commit suicide basically just because they could hang onto a few things, including religion. I think organized religion is horrible just as much as the next guy but there is some merit in religion for people who need a mental crutch.

1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. It’s poetry in motion.

Thank God for creating scientists. Checkmate atheists.

The negotiator!

that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldn't surprise me if some shaman's were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazy...

There's so many other things than religion that would work in that situation that are helpful instead of detrimental

Side topic: I think Pascal's Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didn't make an afterlife and won't interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if there's a flying spaghetti monster out there and that's what god is?

/rant

So here’s the thing with today’s prosthetics: they kinda suck. For example this 2022 study reports that 44% of amputees rejected their prosthetic:

Most responders complained about the comfort (60.87%, n = 14) as well as the weight of the device (52.17%, n = 12).

What apparently goes a long way is accepting the missing limb and living with it. And I guess religion does help with that.

Bad meme because the kid looks happy in the final frame regardless of what the adults did.

Reddit called, /r/atheism wants you back

Thoughts and pears

People will swear by prayer for any ki d of illness. According to them, God can cure anything with enough faith. Ask them if god has ever regrown a limb.

Is all the charity that Christianity alone has done also to the disadvantage to the common believer?

If god took your foreskin, it's because He had a bigger plan for it. Probably the universe's biggest tapestry.

If prayer works, why are there hospitals? Or guns?

Of course, it's all primitive dogshit, basically early 20th century sticks with fancier motors. Big deal.

We need to figure out how to regrow limbs. A stupid salamander can do it.

Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.

It's amazing the degree to which they can compartmentalize. When I was doing my post-doc there was a tech in the lab who was a young-Earth creationist. In a microbiology lab. Where we made mutants strains by using selective pressure. He was a good tech and a good guy, but WTAF?

And religious zealots will take your virginity. This could mean pedophile priests or pedophile billionaires.

That's why it's pascal's mugging. You're getting screwed for something that, statistically speaking, is a shot in the dark.

Don't worry, the religious people will find a way to make this about themselves and/or their religion!

I have a crack in my windshield and I feel this energy right now

religion in itself isn't a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.

The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?

These religious people didn't believe enough, they are lacking faith. I now pastor, imam, rabbi whatever its name can make that child grow that arm in no time. All they need to do is give up their earthly possessions and become faithful followers.

To be fair religion is probably how he got his arm blown off in the first place

I've twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus' name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.

I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.

Matthew 7:7-11
7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you.
8 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
9 Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?
11 So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!