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Session and SimpleX – encrypted messenger comparison
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tatoko556 reddthat.com tatoko556@reddthat.com
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refalo programming.dev refalo@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-04-13
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I wouldn't blanket call the removal of PFS a "failure" as they put it... it does make the protocol much simpler (and hence easier to understand/audit as well) and it's not always a necessity for every single person's threat model... which is an important phrase the article doesn't even mention.

IMO arguing about security or privacy without both people first defining their threat models... is like claiming apples are objectively better than bananas in every way.

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onlinepersona programming.dev onlinepersona@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-09-01
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Paradoxically, if you want to start a conversation with someone you can't meet in person, you have to use another communication tool to forward/receive a QR invitation to open a new chat. And this is the same flaw that Session has.

This is the problem all messengers have that do not use some external ID like email or phone numbers. You first have to communicate over another channel to get started on that new app, unless of course you are physically present. Most people will do that over an insecure channel thus linking them to the account.

So much for "better privacy".

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