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hopesdead
startrek.website
hopesdead@startrek.websiteJoined: 2024-05-27 |
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Sanctus
anarchist.nexus
Sanctus@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-08 |
I hope this means "luxury gay space communism team diversity" and not "everyone needs to have a command rank" gets it. |
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xSikes
feddit.online
xSikes@feddit.online Joined: 2026-01-29 |
Big doubt. New owners values is the polar opposite of what Star Trek stands for. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Big doubt. New owners values is the polar opposite of what Star Trek stands for.
I don't even know what Star Trek stands for anymore. It just seems to be slogging on for money, for quite a while now. Even in the original sense, Gene Roddenberry's high-principled ideals was kind of sabotaged by how he actually conducted himself. That said, a lot of great stories and eps were produced along the way, IMO. |
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halcyoncmdr
piefed.social
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-15 |
Big doubt. New owners values is the polar opposite of what Star Trek stands for.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. The owners care more about the news type aspects of these purchases, not the entertainment side. Look at all the vocal MAGA Trek "fans" that seem to completely ignore the history of the franchise when trying to say it's gone Woke and similar shit. Just because the owners are fascists that doesn't mean the showrunners will be forced to avoid tackling topics indirectly. That's what Trek has always done, sometimes less indirectly than others. |
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Nobody
anarchist.nexus
Nobody@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-05 |
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. The owners care more about the news type aspects of these purchases, not the entertainment side. Look at all the vocal MAGA Trek "fans" that seem to completely ignore the history of the franchise when trying to say it's gone Woke and similar shit. Just because the owners are fascists that doesn't mean the showrunners will be forced to avoid tackling topic...
Shatner and Nichols intentionally butchered every take that didn’t involve them kissing and made television history doing so. I hope that moving forward Trek keeps that same spirit no matter how oppressive the new corporate regime may be. |
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agentTeiko
piefed.social
agentTeiko@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-29 |
I don't even know what Star Trek stands for anymore. It just seems to be slogging on for money, for quite a while now. Even in the original sense, Gene Roddenberry's high-principled ideals was kind of sabotaged by how he actually conducted himself. That said, a lot of great stories and eps were produced along the way, IMO.
The problem is is Gene Roddenberry Is not who made star trek what it is. You need DC Fontaine and Gene Coon and for TNG you need Ronald D Moore and Michael Pillar and to some extent Rick Berman for putting the limitations on those writers to drive creativity. The problem is people don't realize, like with Batman. Bob Kane had a good idea but it was really Bill Finger that really made Batman what we know today. Just like with Bob, Gene Roddenberry knew how to take credit for others work and create the myth of one man doing it all. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
The problem is is Gene Roddenberry Is not who made star trek what it is. You need DC Fontaine and Gene Coon and for TNG you need Ronald D Moore and Michael Pillar and to some extent Rick Berman for putting the limitations on those writers to drive creativity. The problem is people don't realize, like with Batman. Bob Kane had a good idea but it was really Bill Finger that really made Batman wha...
Agree with all that, but:
He certainly was the one most responsible, though. Yeah, there was a huge issue of him taking credit for other peoples' work, but it was indeed him with the vision, and him constantly perfecting scripts before he turned them over to the production team. Without him there is no Star Trek, period. Humans are complex, and my read is that he was one of those 'benevolent dictator' types who was useful for a while, before everyone had enough of his shit. Berman was kind of similar from what I understand... |
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ohulancutash
feddit.uk
ohulancutash@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-02-16 |
Employee supports continued employment |
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amgine
lemmy.world
amgine@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
If I could caricature he’d be fun |
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Tronn4
lemmy.world
Tronn4@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
A right wing trek |
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GeeDubHayduke
lemmy.dbzer0.com
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-06 |
A right wing trek
Star TReich |
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