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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
Recently we've seen a spike in PieFed users, a lot of this came form raising awareness of PieFed's existence on Reddit. Here's some info you'd need if you want to help raise awareness of PieFed on reddit. Reddit uses AI to make a summary of a users behavior that it shows to mods, and will flag people who seem spammy eg. Steps to make a successful reddit post:
Sucesfull posts examples:
These 3 posts got ~500,000 views between them
I've tried to promote Lemmy in the past, but Immediately I get comments of people complaining about the UI, UX and tankies which kills all momentum. I've had much better success with PieFed so sticking to that going forward. |
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Fizz
lemmy.nz
Fizz@lemmy.nzJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Well done on gaining that much traction. Its pretty hard to get people to actually leave site and look at the alternatives. Also that AI summary is so depressing, reddit is really going to boil and entire person down to a sentence. |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
Well done on gaining that much traction. Its pretty hard to get people to actually leave site and look at the alternatives. Also that AI summary is so depressing, reddit is really going to boil and entire person down to a sentence.
Here are some more examples, it's quite interesting
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
Sometimes I wonder if they haven't moved over by now, do we really want them? The users I see at Reddit these days are not the sharpest tools in the shed. |
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raman_klogius
ani.social
raman_klogius@ani.social Joined: 2024-06-22 |
Keep on fighting the good fight. 💪 |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
Sometimes I wonder if they haven't moved over by now, do we really want them? The users I see at Reddit these days are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
The might not be the brightest tools in the shed, but we also don't want the fediverse to be just filled with a bunch of rocket surgeons, we want people from all over creating their own communities etc. I'm not a fan of gatekeeping decentralized alternatives because people aren't "smart" enough. I don't think people don't switch because they are stupid, but instead because PieFed doesn't yet offer what they need in a replacement. |
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
The might not be the brightest tools in the shed, but we also don't want the fediverse to be just filled with a bunch of rocket surgeons, we want people from all over creating their own communities etc. I'm not a fan of gatekeeping decentralized alternatives because people aren't "smart" enough. I don't think people don't switch because they are stupid, but instead because PieFed doesn't yet of...
I don't know, I'm not sure that people who find Reddit in it's current form to still be a useful/enjoyable experience are people I want to share a community with. |
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toothpaste_sandwich
thebrainbin.org
toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.orgJoined: 2025-10-16 |
Wow, the atmosphere really is much more negative on Reddit these days, huh. Lots of "Ew no one uses that, don't bother." Still—sounds like starter packs for Lemmy/Piefed would be useful. Is anyone working on those? |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
I don't know, I'm not sure that people who find Reddit in it's current form to still be a useful/enjoyable experience are people I want to share a community with.
So you don't want to share your community with me? I still find reddit enjoyable. I use both reddit and PieFed. Also reddit's UX is still a lot smoother, I hope PieFed gets there but I'm not going to kid myself and say it's as good as Reddit just yet. |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
I don't know, I'm not sure that people who find Reddit in it's current form to still be a useful/enjoyable experience are people I want to share a community with.
I really hate the elitism / gatekeeping I so often see on here. People scoffing at those still using other platforms, thinking they're better than them etc. |
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MrNobody
quokk.au
MrNobody@quokk.auJoined: 2025-11-11 |
Oh boy, I did not know reddit had gotten that bad. |
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ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
slrpnk.net
Nemo@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-01 |
look I like bumping the fediverse as much as the next person but not enough to make an image post for textual content I have some ethical standards |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
look I like bumping the fediverse as much as the next person but not enough to make an image post for textual content I have some ethical standards
What's unethical about it? |
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calcopiritus
lemmy.world
calcopiritus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-02 |
What's unethical about it?
It's a hyperbole. It's not unethical. But many people don't like it/hate it.
There's probably many more points. |
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Skavau
piefed.social
Skavau@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-18 |
It's a hyperbole. It's not unethical. But many people don't like it/hate it. An image is just more expensive than text. Text is usually ~1 byte per character. An uncompressed image is ~3bytes per pixel. Of course, most images are compressed, and compression does a lot of heavy lifting. But still. Also, you don't need to uncompress plain text. More amount of bytes means more storage expense, mor...
To be clear, Ek is talking about posting image posts on Reddit who allow video uploads. I don't think this is a problem there. Moreover, the infographics are more successful at getting attention than just plain-text comment-posts. It is what it is. |
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P03 Locke
lemmy.dbzer0.com
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-23 |
The might not be the brightest tools in the shed, but we also don't want the fediverse to be just filled with a bunch of rocket surgeons, we want people from all over creating their own communities etc. I'm not a fan of gatekeeping decentralized alternatives because people aren't "smart" enough. I don't think people don't switch because they are stupid, but instead because PieFed doesn't yet of...
Be careful what you wish for: Reddit admins turned VOAT into a right-wing cesspool overnight by banning a few repungent subreddits. They all jumped ship for VOAT, and polluted the community. Of course, this was probably all planned to get rid of an upstart competitor. |
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Velma
lemmy.today
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-03-04 |
I really hate the elitism / gatekeeping I so often see on here. People scoffing at those still using other platforms, thinking they're better than them etc.
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
I really hate the elitism / gatekeeping I so often see on here. People scoffing at those still using other platforms, thinking they're better than them etc.
I'm not gatekeeping, I'm just suggesting maybe not to actively recruit them. I think the good ones will make their way here without a bunch of begging and pleading and convincing. And maybe the rest just aren't really worth having. This was the same thing that made me choose Reddit over Digg back in the day, and I never liked it as much after the Digg migration. |
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
So you don't want to share your community with me? I still find reddit enjoyable. I use both reddit and PieFed. PieFed lacks niche communities, for that I go to reddit. Also reddit's UX is still a lot smoother, I hope PieFed gets there but I'm not going to kid myself and say it's as good as Reddit just yet.
I use Alexandrite and Voyager and lemmus.org and find the UI and experience to be superior than at any point in my 15 years at Reddit, so I have to question what's going on for you to make it that way. |
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SorteKanin
feddit.dk
SorteKanin@feddit.dkJoined: 2023-04-27 |
Why is that one about the WarEra user green? |
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Velma
lemmy.today
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-03-04 |
I use Alexandrite and Voyager and lemmus.org and find the UI and experience to be superior than at any point in my 15 years at Reddit, so I have to question what's going on for you to make it that way.
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
It's a hyperbole. It's not unethical. But many people don't like it/hate it. An image is just more expensive than text. Text is usually ~1 byte per character. An uncompressed image is ~3bytes per pixel. Of course, most images are compressed, and compression does a lot of heavy lifting. But still. Also, you don't need to uncompress plain text. More amount of bytes means more storage expense, mor...
The post will get ZERO traction if it's not a image post, I've tried. Did you read what my post was about? |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
Why is that one about the WarEra user green?
It's a different subreddit, they set the theme to green |
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
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Unfortunately not yet, at least last I checked. That and some missing Voyager features for piefed are what's keeping me from using it as my primary account. |
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calcopiritus
lemmy.world
calcopiritus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-02 |
The post will get ZERO traction if it's not a image post, I've tried. Did you read what my post was about?
I'm not saying that you shouldn't do what you do. You just asked why someone would be against doing an image post when it could be a text post and I answered. What you are doing cannot be done with text posts because of reason 2 and 3. |
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Paranoid Factoid
lemmy.world
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-19 |
Nice info but I have given up on Reddit. |
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
piefed.social
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-05-14 |
I'm not saying that you shouldn't do what you do. You just asked why someone would be against doing an image post when it could be a text post and I answered. What you are doing cannot be done with text posts because of reason 2 and 3.
Text posts simply don't get the same message across though, which is why they aren't as effective. You can communicate a LOT more info in a short time-span with a image. Do you NEVER watch movies because books exist? |
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OpenStars
piefed.social
OpenStars@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-10-24 |
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How is Reddit easier to use? PieFed is extremely easy to use. Its searching sucks, but so too does Reddit's (Lemmy sets an extraordinarily high bar there: Lemmy's searching is supremely excellent). Reddit is definitely larger and has more niche communities - I'm not pushing back on that, just questioning why Reddit is easier to use than PieFed. Or did you mean that Reddit is much easier to use than Lemmy? That I would agree with - Lemmy is extremely lacking, e.g. user polls, user & post flairs, multi-communities, notifications for things, e.g. if you get banned then Lemmy will never tell you but PieFed will, and the list just goes on and on and on and on... but that's just Lemmy, not all of the Threadiverse. Edit: oh, maybe you mean apps? I don't generally use Threadiverse apps but whenever I have done so then they seem fairly great - like Voyager? (The default settings should be changed imho, but if you fiddle just a bit then it gets substantially better.) Or maybe you meant old-Reddit? That would be a good point, but you definitely know that Reddit will dump it the very moment that they can get away with doing so. It would help if you expand a bit: what precisely is easier to do on Reddit than on here? And then whatever you say, probably should become the next thing to heavily push forward to make better! :-D |
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Velma
lemmy.today
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-03-04 |
How is Reddit easier to use? PieFed is extremely easy to use. Its searching sucks, but so too does Reddit's (Lemmy sets an extraordinarily high bar there: Lemmy's searching is supremely excellent). Reddit is definitely larger and has more niche communities - I'm not pushing back on that, just questioning why Reddit is easier to use than PieFed. Or did you mean that Reddit is much easier to use ...
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OpenStars
piefed.social
OpenStars@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-10-24 |
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I edited my comment before you replied here adding a bit more. Yeah, I agree, Reddit is much easier to use than Lemmy, but PieFed has most definitely solved that problem, in most if not entirely all of them. You don't even need to create an account - just visit one of them, like the flagship PieFed.social, and the difference is immediately recognizeable! For instance, I could in theory unsubscribe from all politics and news communities (or just the largest most controversial of them), but then still have access to all of that content just a click away in the category of communities News & Politics. I can (figuratively) both have my cake and eat it too! And if you do create an account, the sign-up wizard alone is likely to make you absolutely fall in love. Content discovery is a solved issue in PieFed. I like how I can control notifications for everything - e.g. for a low-volume community I sign up to be told for every single new post. You could get notified of content from a particular user, or a specific comment - even one that is not yours! - and crucially (even for your own), you can STOP being notified of replies, e.g. when you say something in Chapotraphouse or Lemmygrad.ml and strongly wish that you had not done so... The UI for Piefed is a bit less polished - it suffers from trying to look different from both Reddit and Lemmy, despite how those layouts simply make a great deal of sense. But its UX is superb! Yeah, check it out - you can always keep using your Lemmy as an alt, though if you are anything like me then you will find yourself doing so increasingly less often until you just use PieFed all the time, because why would you want to use the product with fewer features? |
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Velma
lemmy.today
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-03-04 |
I edited my comment before you replied here adding a bit more. Yeah, I agree, Reddit is much easier to use than Lemmy, but PieFed has most definitely solved that problem, in most if not entirely all of them. You don't even need to create an account - just visit one of them, like the flagship PieFed.social, and the difference is immediately recognizeable! For instance, I could in theory unsubscr...
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OpenStars
piefed.social
OpenStars@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-10-24 |
Unfortunately not yet, at least last I checked. That and some missing Voyager features for piefed are what's keeping me from using it as my primary account.
Fwiw, PieFed has put all those features into its API, so at this point the burden is on each individual app designer to catch up to using them, if they decide they want to. |
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OpenStars
piefed.social
OpenStars@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-10-24 |
I don't know, I'm not sure that people who find Reddit in it's current form to still be a useful/enjoyable experience are people I want to share a community with.
There are different parts to Reddit. The largest subs that appear on r/all (or rather pop) are one thing, the small niche subs are another, the interactions with Reddit admins one aspect, the less controversial subjects another, and so on. The Threadiverse is the same - like if you post the "wrong" thing in a tankie space then you will be brigaded with users following and downvoting you across many communities - they even brag about creating accounts specifically for this purpose, to get around bans (bc "no" means you need to keep pushing, consent be damned!!)
But even if the maximum experience here can be much worse than on Reddit, the average interaction is far kinder and nicer, imho. |
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angstylittlecatboy
reddthat.com
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-06-27 |
Be careful what you wish for: Reddit admins turned VOAT into a right-wing cesspool overnight by banning a few repungent subreddits. They all jumped ship for VOAT, and polluted the community. Of course, this was probably all planned to get rid of an upstart competitor.
I'm pretty sure the Voat admins wanted Voat to be right wing. |
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AnarchistArtificer
slrpnk.net
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Evangelising the Fediverse on Reddit is not for me, but respect to anyone who does try that (I save my evangelising for my irl folk. I'm wearing them down) |
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odelik
lemmy.today
odelik@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-08-09 |
Oh the PROFANITY! |
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elephantium
lemmy.world
elephantium@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
It's a hyperbole. It's not unethical. But many people don't like it/hate it. An image is just more expensive than text. Text is usually ~1 byte per character. An uncompressed image is ~3bytes per pixel. Of course, most images are compressed, and compression does a lot of heavy lifting. But still. Also, you don't need to uncompress plain text. More amount of bytes means more storage expense, mor...
Agreed on all points other than that nitpick |
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elephantium
lemmy.world
elephantium@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Be careful what you wish for: Reddit admins turned VOAT into a right-wing cesspool overnight by banning a few repungent subreddits. They all jumped ship for VOAT, and polluted the community. Of course, this was probably all planned to get rid of an upstart competitor.
I heard about voat back in the day and thought "Oh, cool, like reddit without some of the overbearing crap from the admins". Then I went to voat and read a few posts. Well, shit. I didn't want to be on a nazi site. So much for that. |
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chicken
lemmy.dbzer0.com
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-30 |
Be careful what you wish for: Reddit admins turned VOAT into a right-wing cesspool overnight by banning a few repungent subreddits. They all jumped ship for VOAT, and polluted the community. Of course, this was probably all planned to get rid of an upstart competitor.
Are there any equivalent quarantine subs that would have a similar effect on the threadiverse? Right-wing people in particular seem to be convinced it is not what they are looking for, fortunately, judging from comments I saw when I browsed r/RedditAlternatives. |
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OpenStars
piefed.social
OpenStars@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-10-24 |
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You are very welcome 🤗 |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
What's unethical about it?
Just cringe for us oldheads |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
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mustlovehuskies
lemmy.today
mustlovehuskies@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-03-20 |
Sometimes I wonder if they haven't moved over by now, do we really want them? The users I see at Reddit these days are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
Reddit hasn’t been an open place for intelligent discussion in ages, it’s slop to draw in the morons plus propaganda to control their ideology. No one with a brain takes a redditor seriously… So yeah, the remaining people/fleshbots can stay there. |
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Bazell
lemmy.zip
Bazell@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-11-12 |
It seems that I have left in time to not catch an AI summary about myself. XD |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
seems the same strategy on a forum i been to about evading reddit bans(for people who wants to steer traffic to thier online business). these are one of the tools that likely they originally keeping secret from mods, of how one of thier detection methods go, but its likely the botting has gotten more intense because they banned more irl users, making them flee to using bots/spam accounts. |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Oh boy, I did not know reddit had gotten that bad.
they have been aggressively upping thier AI/detection og botters and spammers recently. basically people were using anti-detect browsers and mobile proxies on different mobile phones to evade reddits detection temporarily to use hordes of accounts at once. reddit however is going to lowest hanging fruit, it barely makes a dent in the propaganda bots, but target the ones that drives businesses to thier own website. |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Sometimes I wonder if they haven't moved over by now, do we really want them? The users I see at Reddit these days are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
most are likely bots. |
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realitista
lemmus.org
realitista@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-07-19 |
There are different parts to Reddit. The largest subs that appear on r/all (or rather pop) are one thing, the small niche subs are another, the interactions with Reddit admins one aspect, the less controversial subjects another, and so on. The Threadiverse is the same - like if you post the "wrong" thing in a tankie space then you will be brigaded with users following and downvoting you across ...
Even the narrow specialist subreddits I'm on tend to decay almost exclusively to
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HrabiaVulpes
europe.pub
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub Joined: 2026-02-12 |
May someone enlighten me on differences between europe.pub and piefed.europe.pub? |
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Skavau
piefed.social
Skavau@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-18 |
May someone enlighten me on differences between europe.pub and piefed.europe.pub?
Europe.pub is a lemmy instance. Piefed.europe.pub is a piefed instance. |
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[object Object]
lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
Are these only visible for users that made comments in the modded subreddit? I wonder if I can make it show a summary for my own account, since I've gotten some weird limitations lately-ish. |
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