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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
Granted, I don't know what Haiku is, but surely it can't be more independent and niche than TempleOS?
TempleOS is unusable and mostly ran for fun or respect to its creator. Haiku can work for your regular browsing/document work, although the question of "why?" remains. |
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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
I mean, you can put them in a script and bind it to a hotkey, no?
That's...a very Arch approach |
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FlexibleToast
lemmy.world
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Fedora isn't based ln RHEL, it was before, but now it's in fact the opposite. As far as I know, RHEL 10 is based on CentOS Stream 10, which in turn is based on Fedora 41.
That's correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL. |
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Fiery
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-08 |
Replace Haiku with TempleOS EDIT: Also, put Windows in the top right corner to avoid the "is Microslop or Apple more corporate" discussion.
I had the same reaction to the Microslop vs Apple corporateness at first. But they kinda have a point as in that Apple controls the entire stack from hardware to os, while windows is just the os |
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[object Object]
lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
That's...a very Arch approach
Presumably they can also make it run at startup. But I'm just suggesting a solution for the existing situation, not saying that the distro should work this way. |
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rapchee
lemmy.world
rapchee@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-02-10 |
Where does PopOS go?
niche but slightly corporate? |
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Klajan
lemmy.zip
Klajan@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-02 |
Arch only breaks if you don't read the wiki. Update the repo's gpg keys, read the Arch news, do what manual steps they mention and you can update it after a year and it won't break.
My Arch install yesterday:
It somehow deleted the old kernel image from the boot partition but failed to write the new one (and I didn't notice before rebooting). I needed to rebuild the kernel via chroot from a live USB. |
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rapchee
lemmy.world
rapchee@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-02-10 |
Joke's on you, Pop hasn't had a major update in years!
they released 24 last month |
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lagoon8622
sh.itjust.works
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-18 |
It’s the most popular single distro on ProtonDB now, so that’s something
It's in an extremely good spot right now imo. Just installed it yesterday on pretty new hardware (upper mid-range), flawless experience |
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Paulemeister
feddit.org
Paulemeister@feddit.org Joined: 2024-08-30 |
Nixos?
Maybe at the place of Gentoo? But I'd think it's more popular |
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Itdidnttrickledown
lemmy.world
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-24 |
That's correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL.
I didn't throw a fit I just replaced it within two months with debian and life goes on. |
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Hazel
piefed.blahaj.zone
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-08-12 |
they released 24 last month
Well I haven't updated yet, so still true for me :3 |
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Itdidnttrickledown
lemmy.world
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-24 |
I had the same reaction to the Microslop vs Apple corporateness at first. But they kinda have a point as in that Apple controls the entire stack from hardware to os, while windows is just the os
They so very want to be just like apple in that reguard. |
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alsimoneau
lemmy.ca
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-18 |
From your own link, Fedora: ...is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. So yes, I'm pretty sure.
Windows is more corporate than that |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
if you live antwhere but the USA and Canada, MacOS is a niche, absolutely not mainstream at all, I see more linux users than MacBook users here in Brazil
Oh, didn't you know? "The World" is just "USA" on the Internet. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
snaps aren't the end of the world System engineers all collectively shuddered at that thought. Then OS security nerds. This is the "I tried heroin and it was good" story but for OSes
And if I tried heroin and it was bad was also even more common. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
People are trying cachy as their first Linux distro. To anyone reading and thinking of switching: DO NOT use CachyOS as your first distro. You will not like the experience, it was not made with total newbies in mind. It is Arch with a few bells and whistles, and you are not prepared to properly handle Arch, yet. You will get there later, if you want to.
If I am used to Ubuntu, would I ever want to be on a rolling release? |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
I would replace the political compass colour scheme to avoid confusion. mint , ubuntu and cachy should be the furtherst right. debian should be where mint is, or with fedora one step to the right. windows should be top right. Add some of the newer distros like steamOs, void linux, etc
Also move upbuntu north one square |
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SkunkWorkz
lemmy.world
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-26 |
Mac OS isn't iOS, there is no walled garden.
It still a walled garden in the sense that Apple is the only one that can code sign and certify software for the MacOS. So every dev that wants to release software on MacOS still needs to pay for membership of Apple’s developer program even if they don’t distribute trough the App Store. Unless they want their user to disable a security feature on MacOS and ignore the warnings. |
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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
If I am used to Ubuntu, would I ever want to be on a rolling release?
Depends on your personal preferences! Rolling release typically delivers the latest and greatest of Linux, which is kinda cool. It also removes all the headache of upgrading to a newer version and the possible issues stemming from that. You get to see the gradual evolution of your system, one feature at a time, and you don't have to wait a month after a new version is released, just because some program you need is not properly ported yet. On the other end, any update of the rolling release system can end up being somewhat breaking, so if you prefer setting aside time for managing your system instead of having a nasty surprise at the worst possible moment and at the same time want to have your system secure and updated at all times, classic model will be superior. In both cases, properly set snapshots save a lot of trouble. |
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Marduk73
sh.itjust.works
Marduk73@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-12 |
I wouldn't play the game. Just eat your flavor of ice cream. |
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AnimalsDream
slrpnk.net
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-06-29 |
In reply to an earlier post
It's not a question whether they work or not. It's whether you're okay with an app distribution system that forces us to be dependent on one corporation. Snap's backend effectively makes Ubuntu almost as bad as Android. And seeing as there is no shortage of better options, why not choose those? |
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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
Presumably they can also make it run at startup. But I'm just suggesting a solution for the existing situation, not saying that the distro should work this way.
Sure thing, I was just joking around. This should solve the issue. Although it's still weird that this issue exists in the first place. |
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AnimalsDream
slrpnk.net
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-06-29 |
In reply to an earlier post
I wish there were Debian with Cachy-gaming features. Wonder if I could just do that myself? 🤔 |
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Rob T Firefly
lemmy.world
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-07 |
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AlligatorBlizzard
sh.itjust.works
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
I've got the hot take of wondering if Windows is less corporate than ChromeOS. I'm sure there's some open sourcing going on from Windows but ChromiumOS (which I assume has major issues, AOSP certainly does) exists, and someone could build something cool with it. Sadly we'll never have an open source Windows XP. |
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Ack
lemmy.ca
Ack@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-09 |
In reply to an earlier post
His mom probably likes them too. His dad probably says “WTF is this Snap bullshit son? We didn’t raise you like that.” Then his mom replies, “it’s just a phase, he needs our support, I’m sure you can make snaps happen, sweetie.” |
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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
I wish there were Debian with Cachy-gaming features. Wonder if I could just do that myself? 🤔
Debian is probably a poor fit for a gaming-oriented distro, since gaming is constantly evolving in terms of hardware and software features. Even if you put as much as possible into a container or a Flatpak, your drivers will be old, which is critical even for older hardware, particularly in new games. If you want stability AND modern gaming, maybe go for something like Bazzite? The system is very stable thanks to immutability and atomic updates, and at the same time you have all the modern gaming stack. |
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BeatTakeshi
lemmy.world
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-12 |
Where's Hannah Montana Linux? |
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Pika
sh.itjust.works
Pika@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-08-15 |
In reply to an earlier post
I Actually had attempted to do that via a service, It didn't work. And at that point, I had spent a few hours trying to get it connected to the internet alone so I was already frustrated and was happy enough that it was able to at least connect again. Telling myself I'll go back to it later. Guess what never happend 🦊 When I bother testing it again, I will attempt to fix the service for it. Although in a perfect world it would be nice to have it remember passwords that way the startup is just having it connect to the already saved network, but I don't believe that's going to get fixed any time soon. You might be right and binding it to a key binding may end up being the easier route. |
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irelephant [he/him]
lemmy.dbzer0.com
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-04 |
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InternetCitizen2
lemmy.world
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
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NP, just helping you and others enjoy the meme. |
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lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
I Actually had attempted to do that via a service, It didn't work. And at that point, I had spent a few hours trying to get it connected to the internet alone so I was already frustrated and was happy enough that it was able to at least connect again. Telling myself I'll go back to it later. Guess what never happend 🦊 When I bother testing it again, I will attempt to fix the service for it. Alt...
The service probably either starts too early, or doesn't have access to the desktop session (idk if the latter would be necessary for the script). You can try putting the script into autostarting applications for the user's session, typically via a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart — e.g. by copying a file from /usr/share/applications and adjusting it. |
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Pika
sh.itjust.works
Pika@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-08-15 |
The service probably either starts too early, or doesn't have access to the desktop session (idk if the latter would be necessary for the script). You can try putting the script into autostarting applications for the user's session, typically via a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart — e.g. by copying a file from /usr/share/applications and adjusting it.
I have been really trying to avoid implementing it into the user session, it requires superuser to run the commands and I don't like the concept of hardcoding sudo paths using nopasswd But I probably will end up having to do something similar in the user environment. edit: Now that I think about it, I could probably just make the command path to the network command be authorized as no password on any user as I don't really see a situation where the user logged in shouldn't be able to manipulate the network it's connected to. |
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DeckPacker
lemmy.world
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-07-29 |
What is corporate about Debian? |
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Harvey656
lemmy.world
Harvey656@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Its right beside it you goofy goober. :3 |
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festnt
sh.itjust.works
festnt@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-18 |
What is corporate about Debian?
more people working on it, maybe? i'm not sure, but it's the same situation for arch |
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festnt
sh.itjust.works
festnt@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-18 |
In reply to an earlier post
macs are so rare that someone once screenshared and i was almost asking if that was gnome |
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festnt
sh.itjust.works
festnt@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-18 |
while windows is just the os They so very want to be just like apple in that reguard.
but they aren't yet |
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Someonelol
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-16 |
What is corporate about Debian?
It's used by companies for its rock-solid stability in long up times. |
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FlexibleToast
lemmy.world
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
I didn't throw a fit I just replaced it within two months with debian and life goes on.
Congrats? Enjoy your totally different ecosystem and lack of SELinux. |
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[object Object]
lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
I have been really trying to avoid implementing it into the user session, it requires superuser to run the commands and I don't like the concept of hardcoding sudo paths using nopasswd But I probably will end up having to do something similar in the user environment. edit: Now that I think about it, I could probably just make the command path to the network command be authorized as no password ...
Afaik you can make a particular script available without a password, via sudoers. I forget how exactly, but I've looked into this in the past. Alternatively, you can set the owner of the script to root and set the setuid permission on it, so it runs as root regardless of who launches it. In both cases, if you hardcode the necessary operations in the script, it shouldn't be possible to do anything else with it other than connect to WiFi. Of course, you can also try setting it as a service to run as late as possible, perhaps that would fix it. Idk how services are specified in Arch, but usually with oldstyle init systems it's the numbers at the beginning of the filename, and if you name symlinks to the script something like ‘99-start-wifi’, it should run among the last services at the particular init level. |
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RaccoonBall
lemmy.ca
RaccoonBall@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-06-04 |
I've got the hot take of wondering if Windows is less corporate than ChromeOS. I'm sure there's some open sourcing going on from Windows but ChromiumOS (which I assume has major issues, AOSP certainly does) exists, and someone could build something cool with it. Sadly we'll never have an open source Windows XP.
Isnt reactos pretty close to open source xp? |
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Pika
sh.itjust.works
Pika@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-08-15 |
Afaik you can make a particular script available without a password, via sudoers. I forget how exactly, but I've looked into this in the past. Alternatively, you can set the owner of the script to root and set the setuid permission on it, so it runs as root regardless of who launches it. In both cases, if you hardcode the necessary operations in the script, it shouldn't be possible to do anythi...
I had forgotten about the set UID flag. That might actually fix the issue altogether without having to do a hard-coded sudo path. And would mean I wouldn't have to double check the commans to make sure that there's no destructive subcommands that could be done as well. I might try that later, thanks! |
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Scirocco
lemmy.world
Scirocco@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
In reply to an earlier post
I came here to complain about the lack of OpenBSD And slackware |
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rodneylives
lemmy.world
rodneylives@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
LOL at Windows being marked as less corporate than MacOS. They should absolutely be at least tied. |
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hansolo
lemmy.today
hansolo@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-06-07 |
It's used by companies for its rock-solid stability in long up times.
Why is "used by companies" criteria for being corporate? Companies use doors. Are doors "corporate" now? |
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hansolo
lemmy.today
hansolo@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-06-07 |
Pretty much the opposite of Arch Linux. Its right beside it you goofy goober. :3
Of all the problems, this bothered me the most. |
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fruitycoder
sh.itjust.works
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-11 |
SUSE just one down from RedHat |
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Harvey656
lemmy.world
Harvey656@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Of all the problems, this bothered me the most.
I mean, I think the spot each is in is okay, its more that line. The opposite would be macos or windows 11, methinks. |
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