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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#102 · Quote Reply

Granted, I don't know what Haiku is, but surely it can't be more independent and niche than TempleOS?

TempleOS is unusable and mostly ran for fun or respect to its creator.

Haiku can work for your regular browsing/document work, although the question of "why?" remains.

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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#103 · Quote Reply

I mean, you can put them in a script and bind it to a hotkey, no?

That's...a very Arch approach

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FlexibleToast lemmy.world FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#104 · Quote Reply

Fedora isn't based ln RHEL, it was before, but now it's in fact the opposite. As far as I know, RHEL 10 is based on CentOS Stream 10, which in turn is based on Fedora 41.

That's correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL.

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Fiery lemmy.dbzer0.com Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-08
#105 · Quote Reply

Replace Haiku with TempleOS EDIT: Also, put Windows in the top right corner to avoid the "is Microslop or Apple more corporate" discussion.

I had the same reaction to the Microslop vs Apple corporateness at first. But they kinda have a point as in that Apple controls the entire stack from hardware to os, while windows is just the os

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[object Object] lemmy.world SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-03
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's...a very Arch approach

Presumably they can also make it run at startup.

But I'm just suggesting a solution for the existing situation, not saying that the distro should work this way.

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rapchee lemmy.world rapchee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-10
#107 · Quote Reply

Where does PopOS go?

niche but slightly corporate?

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Klajan lemmy.zip Klajan@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-10-02
#108 · Quote Reply

Arch only breaks if you don't read the wiki. Update the repo's gpg keys, read the Arch news, do what manual steps they mention and you can update it after a year and it won't break.

My Arch install yesterday:

That's a nice Kernel you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it.

It somehow deleted the old kernel image from the boot partition but failed to write the new one (and I didn't notice before rebooting).

I needed to rebuild the kernel via chroot from a live USB.

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rapchee lemmy.world rapchee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-10
#109 · Quote Reply

Joke's on you, Pop hasn't had a major update in years!

they released 24 last month

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lagoon8622 sh.itjust.works lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-02-18
#110 · Quote Reply

It’s the most popular single distro on ProtonDB now, so that’s something

It's in an extremely good spot right now imo. Just installed it yesterday on pretty new hardware (upper mid-range), flawless experience

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Paulemeister feddit.org Paulemeister@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-08-30
#111 · Quote Reply

Nixos?

Maybe at the place of Gentoo? But I'd think it's more popular

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Itdidnttrickledown lemmy.world Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-24
#112 · Quote Reply

That's correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL.

I didn't throw a fit I just replaced it within two months with debian and life goes on.

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Hazel piefed.blahaj.zone Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-12
#113 · Quote Reply

they released 24 last month

Well I haven't updated yet, so still true for me :3

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Itdidnttrickledown lemmy.world Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-24
#114 · Quote Reply

I had the same reaction to the Microslop vs Apple corporateness at first. But they kinda have a point as in that Apple controls the entire stack from hardware to os, while windows is just the os

while windows is just the os

They so very want to be just like apple in that reguard.

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alsimoneau lemmy.ca alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-18
#115 · Quote Reply

From your own link, Fedora: ...is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. So yes, I'm pretty sure.

Windows is more corporate than that
Ubuntu is more corporate and mainstream than that.

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#116 · Quote Reply

if you live antwhere but the USA and Canada, MacOS is a niche, absolutely not mainstream at all, I see more linux users than MacBook users here in Brazil

Oh, didn't you know? "The World" is just "USA" on the Internet.

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-04
#117 · Quote Reply

snaps aren't the end of the world System engineers all collectively shuddered at that thought. Then OS security nerds. This is the "I tried heroin and it was good" story but for OSes

And if I tried heroin and it was bad was also even more common.

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-04
#118 · Quote Reply

People are trying cachy as their first Linux distro. To anyone reading and thinking of switching: DO NOT use CachyOS as your first distro. You will not like the experience, it was not made with total newbies in mind. It is Arch with a few bells and whistles, and you are not prepared to properly handle Arch, yet. You will get there later, if you want to.

If I am used to Ubuntu, would I ever want to be on a rolling release?

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-04
#119 · Quote Reply

I would replace the political compass colour scheme to avoid confusion. mint , ubuntu and cachy should be the furtherst right. debian should be where mint is, or with fedora one step to the right. windows should be top right. Add some of the newer distros like steamOs, void linux, etc

Also move upbuntu north one square

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SkunkWorkz lemmy.world SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#120 · Quote Reply

Mac OS isn't iOS, there is no walled garden.

It still a walled garden in the sense that Apple is the only one that can code sign and certify software for the MacOS. So every dev that wants to release software on MacOS still needs to pay for membership of Apple’s developer program even if they don’t distribute trough the App Store. Unless they want their user to disable a security feature on MacOS and ignore the warnings.

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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#121 · Quote Reply

If I am used to Ubuntu, would I ever want to be on a rolling release?

Depends on your personal preferences!

Rolling release typically delivers the latest and greatest of Linux, which is kinda cool. It also removes all the headache of upgrading to a newer version and the possible issues stemming from that. You get to see the gradual evolution of your system, one feature at a time, and you don't have to wait a month after a new version is released, just because some program you need is not properly ported yet.

On the other end, any update of the rolling release system can end up being somewhat breaking, so if you prefer setting aside time for managing your system instead of having a nasty surprise at the worst possible moment and at the same time want to have your system secure and updated at all times, classic model will be superior.

In both cases, properly set snapshots save a lot of trouble.

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Marduk73 sh.itjust.works Marduk73@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-12
#122 · Quote Reply

I wouldn't play the game. Just eat your flavor of ice cream.

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AnimalsDream slrpnk.net AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-06-29
#123 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

It's not a question whether they work or not. It's whether you're okay with an app distribution system that forces us to be dependent on one corporation. Snap's backend effectively makes Ubuntu almost as bad as Android.

And seeing as there is no shortage of better options, why not choose those?

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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#124 · Quote Reply

Presumably they can also make it run at startup. But I'm just suggesting a solution for the existing situation, not saying that the distro should work this way.

Sure thing, I was just joking around. This should solve the issue. Although it's still weird that this issue exists in the first place.

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AnimalsDream slrpnk.net AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-06-29
#125 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I wish there were Debian with Cachy-gaming features. Wonder if I could just do that myself? 🤔

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Rob T Firefly lemmy.world rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-07
#126 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Photo of Xzibit smiling from the "'Sup, dawg" meme.

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AlligatorBlizzard sh.itjust.works AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#127 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I've got the hot take of wondering if Windows is less corporate than ChromeOS. I'm sure there's some open sourcing going on from Windows but ChromiumOS (which I assume has major issues, AOSP certainly does) exists, and someone could build something cool with it.

Sadly we'll never have an open source Windows XP.

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Ack lemmy.ca Ack@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-09
#128 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

His mom probably likes them too.

His dad probably says “WTF is this Snap bullshit son? We didn’t raise you like that.”

Then his mom replies, “it’s just a phase, he needs our support, I’m sure you can make snaps happen, sweetie.”

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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#129 · (edited) Quote Reply

I wish there were Debian with Cachy-gaming features. Wonder if I could just do that myself? 🤔

Debian is probably a poor fit for a gaming-oriented distro, since gaming is constantly evolving in terms of hardware and software features.

Even if you put as much as possible into a container or a Flatpak, your drivers will be old, which is critical even for older hardware, particularly in new games.

If you want stability AND modern gaming, maybe go for something like Bazzite? The system is very stable thanks to immutability and atomic updates, and at the same time you have all the modern gaming stack.

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BeatTakeshi lemmy.world BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-12
#130 · Quote Reply

Where's Hannah Montana Linux?

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Pika sh.itjust.works Pika@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-15
#131 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I Actually had attempted to do that via a service, It didn't work. And at that point, I had spent a few hours trying to get it connected to the internet alone so I was already frustrated and was happy enough that it was able to at least connect again. Telling myself I'll go back to it later. Guess what never happend 🦊

When I bother testing it again, I will attempt to fix the service for it. Although in a perfect world it would be nice to have it remember passwords that way the startup is just having it connect to the already saved network, but I don't believe that's going to get fixed any time soon.

You might be right and binding it to a key binding may end up being the easier route.

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irelephant [he/him] lemmy.dbzer0.com irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
#132 · Quote Reply

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InternetCitizen2 lemmy.world InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#133 · Quote Reply

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NP, just helping you and others enjoy the meme.

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[object Object] lemmy.world SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-03
#134 · (edited) Quote Reply

I Actually had attempted to do that via a service, It didn't work. And at that point, I had spent a few hours trying to get it connected to the internet alone so I was already frustrated and was happy enough that it was able to at least connect again. Telling myself I'll go back to it later. Guess what never happend 🦊 When I bother testing it again, I will attempt to fix the service for it. Alt...

The service probably either starts too early, or doesn't have access to the desktop session (idk if the latter would be necessary for the script). You can try putting the script into autostarting applications for the user's session, typically via a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart — e.g. by copying a file from /usr/share/applications and adjusting it.

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Pika sh.itjust.works Pika@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-15
#135 · (edited) Quote Reply

The service probably either starts too early, or doesn't have access to the desktop session (idk if the latter would be necessary for the script). You can try putting the script into autostarting applications for the user's session, typically via a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart — e.g. by copying a file from /usr/share/applications and adjusting it.

I have been really trying to avoid implementing it into the user session, it requires superuser to run the commands and I don't like the concept of hardcoding sudo paths using nopasswd

But I probably will end up having to do something similar in the user environment.

edit: Now that I think about it, I could probably just make the command path to the network command be authorized as no password on any user as I don't really see a situation where the user logged in shouldn't be able to manipulate the network it's connected to.

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DeckPacker lemmy.world BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-29
#136 · Quote Reply

What is corporate about Debian?

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Harvey656 lemmy.world Harvey656@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#137 · Quote Reply

Pretty much the opposite of Arch Linux.

Its right beside it you goofy goober. :3

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festnt sh.itjust.works festnt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-18
#138 · Quote Reply

What is corporate about Debian?

more people working on it, maybe? i'm not sure, but it's the same situation for arch

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festnt sh.itjust.works festnt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-18
#139 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

macs are so rare that someone once screenshared and i was almost asking if that was gnome

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festnt sh.itjust.works festnt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-18
#140 · Quote Reply

while windows is just the os They so very want to be just like apple in that reguard.

but they aren't yet

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Someonelol lemmy.dbzer0.com Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-16
#141 · Quote Reply

What is corporate about Debian?

It's used by companies for its rock-solid stability in long up times.

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FlexibleToast lemmy.world FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#142 · Quote Reply

I didn't throw a fit I just replaced it within two months with debian and life goes on.

Congrats? Enjoy your totally different ecosystem and lack of SELinux.

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[object Object] lemmy.world SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-03
#143 · Quote Reply

I have been really trying to avoid implementing it into the user session, it requires superuser to run the commands and I don't like the concept of hardcoding sudo paths using nopasswd But I probably will end up having to do something similar in the user environment. edit: Now that I think about it, I could probably just make the command path to the network command be authorized as no password ...

Afaik you can make a particular script available without a password, via sudoers. I forget how exactly, but I've looked into this in the past.

Alternatively, you can set the owner of the script to root and set the setuid permission on it, so it runs as root regardless of who launches it.

In both cases, if you hardcode the necessary operations in the script, it shouldn't be possible to do anything else with it other than connect to WiFi.

Of course, you can also try setting it as a service to run as late as possible, perhaps that would fix it. Idk how services are specified in Arch, but usually with oldstyle init systems it's the numbers at the beginning of the filename, and if you name symlinks to the script something like ‘99-start-wifi’, it should run among the last services at the particular init level.

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RaccoonBall lemmy.ca RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-04
#144 · Quote Reply

I've got the hot take of wondering if Windows is less corporate than ChromeOS. I'm sure there's some open sourcing going on from Windows but ChromiumOS (which I assume has major issues, AOSP certainly does) exists, and someone could build something cool with it. Sadly we'll never have an open source Windows XP.

Isnt reactos pretty close to open source xp?

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Pika sh.itjust.works Pika@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-15
#145 · (edited) Quote Reply

Afaik you can make a particular script available without a password, via sudoers. I forget how exactly, but I've looked into this in the past. Alternatively, you can set the owner of the script to root and set the setuid permission on it, so it runs as root regardless of who launches it. In both cases, if you hardcode the necessary operations in the script, it shouldn't be possible to do anythi...

I had forgotten about the set UID flag. That might actually fix the issue altogether without having to do a hard-coded sudo path.

And would mean I wouldn't have to double check the commans to make sure that there's no destructive subcommands that could be done as well.

I might try that later, thanks!

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Scirocco lemmy.world Scirocco@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-04
#146 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I came here to complain about the lack of OpenBSD

And slackware

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rodneylives lemmy.world rodneylives@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#147 · Quote Reply

LOL at Windows being marked as less corporate than MacOS. They should absolutely be at least tied.

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hansolo lemmy.today hansolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-07
#148 · Quote Reply

It's used by companies for its rock-solid stability in long up times.

Why is "used by companies" criteria for being corporate?

Companies use doors. Are doors "corporate" now?

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hansolo lemmy.today hansolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-07
#149 · Quote Reply

Pretty much the opposite of Arch Linux. Its right beside it you goofy goober. :3

Of all the problems, this bothered me the most.

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fruitycoder sh.itjust.works fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-11
#150 · Quote Reply

SUSE just one down from RedHat

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Harvey656 lemmy.world Harvey656@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#151 · Quote Reply

Of all the problems, this bothered me the most.

I mean, I think the spot each is in is okay, its more that line. The opposite would be macos or windows 11, methinks.

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