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mr_might44
lemmy.world
mr_might44@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-09 |
Context: after eating a death cap (Amanita phalloides), you'd notice a few of the symptoms at first, but these usually resolve after a day or two. After this, you'll enter a latent phase where you feel fine, but your liver and kidneys slowly start to fail. By the time you notice, it's usually already too late. |
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call_me_xale
lemmy.zip
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-23 |
So it's like radiation poisoning, then? |
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birdwing
lemmy.blahaj.zone
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-08-19 |
Omae wa mou shindeiru ass-mushroom |
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whimsy
lemmy.zip
whimsy@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-09 |
The rabies of mushrooms |
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tomiant
piefed.social
tomiant@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-13 Banned |
I had rabies, but after a few days I felt better. |
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Signtist
bookwyr.me
Signtist@bookwyr.meJoined: 2025-06-27 |
So it's like radiation poisoning, then?
It's not just similar, it's the same symptom - they both kill you through damaging your cells' ability to create proteins, radiation through damage to the DNA itself, and amatoxins from deadly mushrooms through blocking of the cell's ability to read DNA to create mRNA, which is necessary for protein synthesis. |
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alekwithak
lemmy.world
alekwithak@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Every. Single. Time. |
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hexdream
lemmy.world
hexdream@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
I had rabies, but after a few days I felt better.
Would you like a glass of water? |
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tomiant
piefed.social
tomiant@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-13 Banned |
Would you like a glass of water?
As much as I would want a death cap mushroom! Both can and will kill you! |
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hexdream
lemmy.world
hexdream@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
As much as I would want a death cap mushroom! Both can and will kill you!
So not wanting the water then? I have bad news for you... |
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call_me_xale
lemmy.zip
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-23 |
It's not just similar, it's the same symptom - they both kill you through damaging your cells' ability to create proteins, radiation through damage to the DNA itself, and amatoxins from deadly mushrooms through blocking of the cell's ability to read DNA to create mRNA, which is necessary for protein synthesis.
Oh! "Neat". |
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tomiant
piefed.social
tomiant@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-13 Banned |
So not wanting the water then? I have bad news for you...
Allright if you're gonna be like that just give me the damn mushroom. |
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captain_oni
lemmy.blahaj.zone
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-08-04 |
Allright if you're gonna be like that just give me the damn mushroom.
Don't do it! It's a trap! Don't you know mushrooms are mostly made out of water!? |
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tomiant
piefed.social
tomiant@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-13 Banned |
Don't do it! It's a trap! Don't you know mushrooms are mostly made out of water!?
I fucking knew they were in cahoots! |
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Chakravanti
monero.town
Chakravanti@monero.town Joined: 2024-12-05 |
I fucking knew they were in cahoots!
Fucking dicks. |
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Arghblarg
lemmy.ca
Arghblarg@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hedgehogs, boletes. My knowledge is restricted to the PNW (Pacific North-West) however, so also read on regional variations. |
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zurohki
aussie.zone
zurohki@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hed...
Apparently there's also AI generated guidebooks, which look completely legitimate but are actually random nonsense. |
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orb360
lemmy.ca
orb360@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Apparently there's also AI generated guidebooks, which look completely legitimate but are actually random nonsense.
You want the one with the crazy looking guy in the tux with a trumpet |
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swab148
lemmy.dbzer0.com
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-06-04 |
You want the one with the crazy looking guy in the tux with a trumpet
50-50 you find him at a ska show |
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leftzero
lemmy.dbzer0.com
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-08 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hed...
I wouldn't trust books when it comes to hunting mushrooms, slop or not. Don't go hunting mushrooms unless your family's taken you hunting mushrooms since you were a kid (and even then only in regions you're familiar with, and even then don't pick any mushroom you're not 110% certain of, and if you're not an idiot), or accompanied by someone with that experience verifying every single mushroom you find before picking it up, and telling you why and how it'd've killed you or why it wouldn't've tasted good. |
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Afaithfulnihilist
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-09-15 |
Unless you are with Stamets and he tries it first, you shouldn't eat foraged mushrooms. Generally speaking, the only safe wild mushroom is one you saw someone else eat a few days ago and they are still fine. |
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Frigidlollipop
lemmy.world
Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-02 |
Unless you are with Stamets and he tries it first, you shouldn't eat foraged mushrooms. Generally speaking, the only safe wild mushroom is one you saw someone else eat a few days ago and they are still fine.
Not true at all, honestly kind of fear mongering. Mushrooms like morels are extremely hard to mistake unless you resist all forms of obvious Id. |
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SaharaMaleikuhm
feddit.org
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hed...
I think I would rather just start growing my own instead. |
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Afaithfulnihilist
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-09-15 |
Not true at all, honestly kind of fear mongering. Mushrooms like morels are extremely hard to mistake unless you resist all forms of obvious Id.
Morrells are the one real exception because they are so easily distinguished from lookalikes. |
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MagicShel
lemmy.zip
MagicShel@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-10-14 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hed...
My daughter foraged some oyster mushrooms. I did a lot of research before letting her eat them, but came to the same conclusion — there's nothing else you'd mistake for it. She fried them up in some oil. They were fine. I had some. Definitely could use a better recipe than "pour oil, make mushroom hot" but they were edible. But pretty much everything else we've found has been in the class of, "might taste gross or it might taste gross and kill you." Thanks, I hate it! |
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altphoto
lemmy.today
altphoto@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-04-14 |
Don't forage for mushrooms unless you identify them in multiple ways, from multiple guidebooks, and ask locals what's around, first. There are quite a few types of mushrooms that don't have any poisonous lookalikes, that is once you know what to look for. Oyster mushrooms, golden (and winter) chanterelles, puffballs (IFF you slice them and make sure there's no 'mushroom' outline within!!!), hed...
Here in the PNW you can grow mushrooms on your car if you wanted. Its dark and soggy. |
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RedMari
reddthat.com
RedMari@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-05-25 |
You want the one with the crazy looking guy in the tux with a trumpet
✨everything the rain promises and more✨ |
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VibeSurgeon
piefed.social
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-15 |
Omae wa mou shindeiru ass-mushroom
NANI |
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AWistfulNihilist
lemmy.world
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Morrells are the one real exception because they are so easily distinguished from lookalikes.
That's funny, you are like opposite me. There are a lot of exceptions, Morrells are actually one of the few mushrooms that can kill you or make you very ill if you don't cook them long enough, so I wouldn't even call them exceptions. They still require knowledge and prep. That includes chicken of the woods which can be dangerous depending on which tree it's growing on. Oyster mushrooms on the west coast of the US are a fair bet, someone in this same thread made a good list, but it's regional. A high percentage of the poisonings in California (Australia too as I understand it) used to be SE Asians who mistook them for paddy-straw mushrooms. A lot of these articles are saying that it's more wide spread this time because of "naive" people harvesting. I hope it's not like food insecure people trying to fill caloric gaps... There are plenty of amateurs who rise to the ranks of expert, but the consequences of error can be very high. I recommend anyone who wants to harvest to learn to spore print as part of identification. Harvesting any wild edibles requires a lot of research, mushrooms topping that list by a fair margin. |
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Arghblarg
lemmy.ca
Arghblarg@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-10 |
I wouldn't trust books when it comes to hunting mushrooms, slop or not. Don't go hunting mushrooms unless your family's taken you hunting mushrooms since you were a kid (and even then only in regions you're familiar with, and even then don't pick any mushroom you're not 110% certain of, and if you're not an idiot), or accompanied by someone with that experience verifying every single mushroom y...
Good advice, but respectfully there are some trustworthy books. So long as the reader actually follows all of the verification steps in those books. And definitely not those fly-by-night, probably AI-generated 'slop' books online!. My wife & I only moved out to the west coast in our 40s, and in the decade since, we (slowly! carefully!) learned how to recognize the safe species. Just don't take any stupid risks -- be absolutely sure of an ID before eating. Show what you've collected first, if it's a new one, to someone local who knows and learn from their experience. One good book is All That The Rain Promises ... |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
So it's like radiation poisoning, then?
it destroys your liver if you dont treat it quickly. destroying angels are related to death caps, just as deadly. |
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xthexder
l.sw0.com
xthexder@l.sw0.comJoined: 2023-07-09 |
Here in the PNW you can grow mushrooms on your car if you wanted. Its dark and soggy.
I had a whole wild mushroom farm going on my front lawn earlier this winter |
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Arghblarg
lemmy.ca
Arghblarg@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Morrells are the one real exception because they are so easily distinguished from lookalikes.
For those who have experience, yes -- but to the inexperienced eye, there are some false morels that can definitely trick people. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=morel+lookalike+gyromytra&t=vivaldi&ia=web We have some Gyromitra that pop up every year in one area of our backyard. They produce a molecule, gyromitrin, which is metabolized in the body into monomethylhydrazine, which is used in rocket fuel(!)... So be careful. Apparently Gyromitra are consumed in Europe by some -- but only after careful preparation... I am not brave enough to try that :/ |
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AllNewTypeFace
leminal.space
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceJoined: 2023-08-20 |
If all mushrooms are edible but some are only edible once, the latency makes the death cap one of the few mushrooms that’s edible a few times. |
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bassomitron
lemmy.world
bassomitron@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Good advice, but respectfully there are some trustworthy books. So long as the reader actually follows all of the verification steps in those books. And definitely not those fly-by-night, probably AI-generated 'slop' books online!. My wife & I only moved out to the west coast in our 40s, and in the decade since, we (slowly! carefully!) learned how to recognize the safe species. Just don't t...
The cover of that book is something else hahaha |
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bassomitron
lemmy.world
bassomitron@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
It's not just similar, it's the same symptom - they both kill you through damaging your cells' ability to create proteins, radiation through damage to the DNA itself, and amatoxins from deadly mushrooms through blocking of the cell's ability to read DNA to create mRNA, which is necessary for protein synthesis.
How do you even treat that? Seems like a pretty permanently damaging toxin? |
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W98BSoD
lemmy.dbzer0.com
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-01-30 |
Oh! "Neat".
📸 |
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Signtist
bookwyr.me
Signtist@bookwyr.meJoined: 2025-06-27 |
How do you even treat that? Seems like a pretty permanently damaging toxin?
The damage is permanent on a cellular level - the affected cells will either die, or in the case of radiation exposure, can become cancerous instead. If you got a small enough exposure, and immediately sought medical attention to remove the toxin from your body in the case of amatoxin ingestion, then only some cells will be affected, and maybe your organs can continue functioning and eventually recover after the affected cells die off. If the damage is significant, you might survive if you get a liver transplant and dialysis, since the liver and kidneys are the most affected due to their role in filtering and removing toxens. |
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GraniteM
lemmy.world
GraniteM@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-11 |
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Assassassin
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-09-26 |
Oh! "Neat".
Oh how "fun" |
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the_artic_one
programming.dev
the_artic_one@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-18 |
I wouldn't trust books when it comes to hunting mushrooms, slop or not. Don't go hunting mushrooms unless your family's taken you hunting mushrooms since you were a kid (and even then only in regions you're familiar with, and even then don't pick any mushroom you're not 110% certain of, and if you're not an idiot), or accompanied by someone with that experience verifying every single mushroom y...
Nothing wrong with picking a mushroom to ID at home or at an ID clinic run by your local mycology club. You should individually inspect each specimen as you're cleaning them anyway so you can throw out any which might be going bad, chock full of bugs, or misidentified. When in doubt, throw it out. |
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the_artic_one
programming.dev
the_artic_one@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-18 |
If wish to learn how to forage for mushrooms, join a local mycology club and go out with them. They can identify mushrooms for you and teach you how to do so yourself. They can also recommend good local field guides, I see a few folks in this thread recommending All that the rain promises and More which is a reputable guide but it's also spectacularly out of date and only applicable to Western North America. It's important to know what you're doing but mushroom identification is not nearly as difficult as some of the comments here make it out to be. There are far fewer deadly mushrooms out there than most people think and it's fairly easy to familiarize yourself with all the deadly species in your area so you can avoid them. |
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Akasazh
lemmy.world
Akasazh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-24 |
The damage is permanent on a cellular level - the affected cells will either die, or in the case of radiation exposure, can become cancerous instead. If you got a small enough exposure, and immediately sought medical attention to remove the toxin from your body in the case of amatoxin ingestion, then only some cells will be affected, and maybe your organs can continue functioning and eventually...
Thanks! Great read up on something I knew nothing about. |
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Zerush
lemmy.ml
Zerush@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-04-25 |
These are edible (small amount), with very colorfull side effects |
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hexdream
lemmy.world
hexdream@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
I had rabies, but after a few days I felt better.
For those that missed it, I was referring to rabies and hydrophobia. |
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