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The Ageless Device: Cheap gadgets for violating the California Digital Age Assurance Act
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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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They’re basically minimum-viable products that by design can be used to violate the law in California when the Act goes into effect on Jan. 1, 2027.

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stravanasu lemmy.ca pglpm@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-05
#2 · Quote Reply

Brilliant! 💪

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-16
#3 · Quote Reply

Can someone eli5 the idea? I don't get it, even after reading the page. But now I want one.

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MrSulu lemmy.ml MrSulu@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-23
#4 · Quote Reply

Brilliant. I'd like to see how the very uninformed legislators deal with this. They will have to publically re-argue first principles

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jws_shadotak sh.itjust.works jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-07
#5 · Quote Reply

Can someone eli5 the idea? I don't get it, even after reading the page. But now I want one.

California is adding a requirement for age verification for operating systems (or something like that) so each one of these violates that law by booting into linux.

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#6 · Quote Reply

California is adding a requirement for age verification for operating systems (or something like that) so each one of these violates that law by booting into linux.

Except it's not age verification and as see n by the systemd fork over this, the people hyperventilating over adding an API are making less secure systems

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#7 · Quote Reply

Except it's not age verification and as see n by the systemd fork over this, the people hyperventilating over adding an API are making less secure systems

It's not 'hyperventilation' it's obvious fascism

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#8 · Quote Reply

Can someone eli5 the idea? I don't get it, even after reading the page. But now I want one.

They're breaking evil age verification laws on purpose as civil disobedience with cheap hardware

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-16
#9 · Quote Reply

They're breaking evil age verification laws on purpose as civil disobedience with cheap hardware

OK, the disobedience was the part I didn't get. Thank you!

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-16
#10 · Quote Reply

California is adding a requirement for age verification for operating systems (or something like that) so each one of these violates that law by booting into linux.

This was the part I got. But I wondered how that would help?

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#11 · Quote Reply

OK, the disobedience was the part I didn't get. Thank you!

Insofar as part availability isn't insurmountably impacted this also constitutes functional resistance to all manor of censorship and surveillance. If you can code, test on one of these

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-16
#12 · Quote Reply

Insofar as part availability isn't insurmountably impacted this also constitutes functional resistance to all manor of censorship and surveillance. If you can code, test on one of these

I can, but I probably won't, because my backlog is full and overflowing. But it is cheap... damn.

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dan upvote.au dan@upvote.au
Joined: 2023-06-14
#13 · Quote Reply

California is adding a requirement for age verification for operating systems (or something like that) so each one of these violates that law by booting into linux.

Not just California. Several other US states are considering (or will be rolling out) similar laws, and Brazil's version has already rolled out this month.

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BestBouclettes jlai.lu BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-07-04
#14 · Quote Reply

By the way, the current age verification madness is a coordinated lobbying campaign by Meta

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Cuddles McBubblefun lemmy.world CuddlesMcBubblefun@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#15 · Quote Reply

It's not 'hyperventilation' it's obvious fascism

ooh! ooh! Can we restart the systemd wars??

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juipeltje lemmy.world juipeltje@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#16 · Quote Reply

ooh! ooh! Can we restart the systemd wars??

Did the init war ever end? (I use shepherd btw)

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msspwn lemmy.ml msspwn@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-31
#17 · Quote Reply

Amazing. Where are the build instructions

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DFX4509B lemmy.wtf DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-08-08
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

Can someone eli5 the idea? I don't get it, even after reading the page. But now I want one.

It's protestware, which is great.

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-16
#19 · Quote Reply

It's protestware, which is great.

I agree, but now I am torn because I'm protesting the US as a whole right now.

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parson0 startrek.website parson0@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-06
#20 · Quote Reply

Amazing. Where are the build instructions

Coming in Q3

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brokenwing discuss.tchncs.de brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-11-04
#21 · Quote Reply

Wait are they planing to fine non-age verification compliant devices?

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#22 · Quote Reply

By the way, the current age verification madness is a coordinated lobbying campaign by Meta

To avoid any responsibility for them not moderating.

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#23 · Quote Reply

Wait are they planing to fine non-age verification compliant devices?

Well yeah. And since no one is ever going to provide their real age, they will probably set jail time and photo ID upload requirements.

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jarfil beehaw.org jarfil@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-06-26
#24 · Quote Reply

AB 1043 passed the California Assembly 76–0 and the Senate 38–0. Not a single legislator voted against it.

1798.503. (a) A person that violates this title shall be subject to an injunction and liable for a civil penalty of not more than two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per affected child for each negligent violation or not more than seven thousand five hundred dollars ($7,500) per affected child for each intentional violation

This device does not collect, store, or transmit the age of its user.
This is intentional.

Is there any reason to believe they won't want to make an example out of intentional violators?

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#25 · Quote Reply

Well yeah. And since no one is ever going to provide their real age, they will probably set jail time and photo ID upload requirements.

I mean if we're making shit up, why not say they'll execute you for non-compliance?

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#26 · Quote Reply

It's not 'hyperventilation' it's obvious fascism

JFC it's "facism" to return an age bracket?

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean if we're making shit up, why not say they'll execute you for non-compliance?

Hey everyone, found the fed simp. Hilarious name “rioting pacifist” telling us everything is gonna be fine, just like history has always proven. lol.

You should be “strawman fed” for your next username.

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EonNShadow pawb.social EonNShadow@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-10
#28 · Quote Reply

By the way, the current age verification madness is a coordinated lobbying campaign by Meta

One more reason for me to fucking hate Zuckerberg.

Add it to the pile at this point...

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#29 · Quote Reply

Hey everyone, found the fed simp. Hilarious name “rioting pacifist” telling us everything is gonna be fine, just like history has always proven. lol. You should be “strawman fed” for your next username.

Honestly the level of delusion around this is Alex Jones Turning the Frogs gay, there is a shred of truth but that's about it and you're our here popping vines over a PR that does very little.

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#30 · Quote Reply

Honestly the level of delusion around this is Alex Jones Turning the Frogs gay, there is a shred of truth but that's about it and you're our here popping vines over a PR that does very little.

Except you’re on the “Alex jones” side here. You just can’t see because you’re a fed simp.

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Goodlucksil lemmy.dbzer0.com Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-08-15
#31 · Quote Reply

AB 1043 passed the California Assembly 76–0 and the Senate 38–0. Not a single legislator voted against it. 1798.503. (a) A person that violates this title shall be subject to an injunction and liable for a civil penalty of not more than two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per affected child for each negligent violation or not more than seven thousand five hundred dollars ($7,500) per aff...

I don't know, maybe not looking stupid

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#32 · Quote Reply

Except you’re on the “Alex jones” side here. You just can’t see because you’re a fed simp.

Lmao, you realize it's a state law right?

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#33 · Quote Reply

Lmao, you realize it's a state law right?

StAtE gOvErNmEnT sImP

Just a magat by a different name.

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#34 · Quote Reply

StAtE gOvErNmEnT sImP Just a magat by a different name.

California is a blue state

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

Hey everyone, found the fed simp. Hilarious name “rioting pacifist” telling us everything is gonna be fine, just like history has always proven. lol. You should be “strawman fed” for your next username.

hey, EIGHT DAY OLD TROLL, just since you haven't got the education level to read legalese, don't take it out on other posters here

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#36 · Quote Reply

To avoid any responsibility for them not moderating.

that sounds like maga simp talk

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#37 · Quote Reply

California is a blue state
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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#38 · Quote Reply

hey, EIGHT DAY OLD TROLL, just since you haven't got the education level to read legalese, don't take it out on other posters here

So many magats wow

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#39 · Quote Reply

that sounds like maga simp talk

The OS level age verification is being pushed by Meta to avoid having to take responsibility for moderation.

Where have you been?

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#40 · Quote Reply

The OS level age verification is being pushed by Meta to avoid having to take responsibility for moderation. Where have you been?

that's just a distraction maga

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#41 · Quote Reply

that's just a distraction maga

Yes, you’re a maga distraction lol glad we agree

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#42 · Quote Reply

Yes, you’re a maga distraction lol glad we agree

👉👈 so are we supposed to kiss now or

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#43 · Quote Reply

👉👈 so are we supposed to kiss now or

Have the day you voted for, trumpet

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

Have the day you voted for, trumpet

you are reading the totally wrong thing into this, i'm just making fun of you dude.

not everyone who disagrees with you on every point is maga. try remembering the art of conversation

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#45 · Quote Reply

you are reading the totally wrong thing into this, i'm just making fun of you dude. not everyone who disagrees with you on every point is maga. try remembering the art of conversation

Stop.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

Stop.

nooooooooo it's fun

edit: can someone get this gif to say MECHA KAMALA for me that would be so funny

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#47 · Quote Reply

nooooooooo it's fun edit: can someone get this gif to say MECHA KAMALA for me that would be so funny

Sounds like a Trump voter. 🤷‍♂️

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#48 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a Trump voter. 🤷‍♂️

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#49 · Quote Reply

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Just so I got this straight I'm a Fed simping magat, because I think you're being hysterical about a Californian law that doesn't require verification and returns a locally stored unverified age?

I'm honestly kind of neutral on the law but the hysteria around it as a slippery nipple to completely different laws is ridiculous.

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jarfil beehaw.org jarfil@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-06-26
#50 · Quote Reply

I don't know, maybe not looking stupid

In whose eyes? They have lobbyists backing them, and a general public who doesn't know any better, or care to know.

Exposing the stupidity is a great goal, running headfirst into the "Who will think of the children!1!!" wall... not so much.

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org lemmy.org org@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-15
#51 · Quote Reply

Just so I got this straight I'm a Fed simping magat, because I think you're being hysterical about a Californian law that doesn't require verification and returns a locally stored unverified age? I'm honestly kind of neutral on the law but the hysteria around it as a slippery nipple to completely different laws is ridiculous.

No I think you are based on your comment history and your support for privacy violations.

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