Christians should show they're not the antichrist by getting "Nero," which is Greek for "not the beast" tattooed on their forehead

It's Tennessee. You can have a little bumfucking as a treat, as long as it's your sibling.

I was going to guess that it was one of Trump's idiot corrupt collaborators or AI, and here it is, Elon Musk's idiot collaborators.

I'd rather have nothing. The government shouldn't care and no one else should either.

because conspiracy theory nonsense and the government is inherently evil, or something.

apparently 'freedom' is living in the backwoods your entire life as an undocumented citizen or something.

and medical care and social security are 'evil'.

Just a minor bit of pedantry, but Social Security Numbers are generally abbreviated as SSN, SSID usually refers to a "Service Set Identifier" aka WiFi network name.

"uncle papa" and all that ... as long as your family tree is a circle.

I agree with you in principal, verifying your identity before voting is important because elections are important. We should be having a conversation about creating a system that is both comprehensive and also doesn't impose a burden on people without means. For example, a lot of people don't have an ID to satisfy the proposed requirements and would have a difficult time getting these credentials before election day.

In addition, in order to get these documents a person would have to jump through a lot of bureaucratic loopholes and pay fees. Many of these people are poorer and are more affected by the dire economic situation. The systems are complicated and despite being involved in this sphere for a few years I couldn't tell you the steps and fees required to get all of the documents. This isn't a simple system where a person can just walk into a government office and walk out with a working ID.

If we're going to have a system requiring Secure IDs (I'm not sure the EU analog, but you guys have a similar secure identity scheme being pushed) then we need to make getting Secure IDs dead simple because the average citizen needs to be able to vote and also shouldn't be subjected to heavy administrative burden in order to participate in the democratic system.

In this case, this isn't even about showing an ID. There is an electronic system being created by the DHS, at the whim of Donald Trump, which is implementing a project that is not authorized or funded by laws passed by Congress (so, its already an illegal expenditure of funds). This project is intended to be given to the States so that on election day a person's information can be entered into the system and the system will say if they are a valid citizen or not. If the system says that they are not a citizen, then they cannot vote.

One of the, many, many, problems with this system is that we have no idea how it works internally. The proposal is to allow a black box system that is controlled entirely by Donald Trump be responsible for determining who is and isn't allowed to vote. Any errors of this system that occur on election day and disqualify people from voting will result in people being unable to vote and also unable to meaningfully challenge their disqualification in court (because they have until midnight to vote and no courts work that fast).

Even if you trusted Donald Trump to fairly and impartially administer elections (and if you do then you are probably a crazy person in the thrall of the US alt-right propaganda campaign), the system has objectively failed on simple tests and has rejected actual US Citizens. We have no idea how this system works and why it is rejecting US Citizen.

On top of all of that. The entire premise that this system was created to solve was the idea that the outcome of US elections have been altered by non-citizens voting. There is no evidence that non-citizens are voting and the actual cases of voter fraud that are brought by State and Federal law enforcement are nowhere close to the scale required to actually change election outcomes (there may be 100-200 election fraud cases across the entire US in any given election year).

So, it's a system which unilaterally gets to determine who can vote. It exists to solve a problem that isn't happening, it is not authorized by law, and is controlled by a person who has shown both the intention and immorality to subvert democratic outcomes up to and including using mob violence, witness intimidation and political pressure against his enemies.

You're right that having secure, fair and free elections are important. In my opinion, this system doesn't solve any problems and exists completely to allow for Donald Trump to disqualify people at scale using external data which allows for them to determine which way a person is likely to vote. We don't know how the system works and it could be as simple as If Democrat Voter -> Disqualify 30% of the time.

It's illegal, created for criminal purposes and will likely be an exhibit in the Conspiracy Against Rights/Treason cases against Trump, his minions and his financial backers once they're swept from power in the midterms and then impeached and removed from office.

I don't know what you're talking about, all I see is *******************

I fucking CALLED IT.

I've been getting so many loan applications since they opened pandoras box last year. never had this problem. I even just got an alert my SSN has been found on the darknet.

take my advice, freeze your credit report at all three major credit firms NOW. don't wait, takes an hour for all three all online. doesn't matter of you're 9 or 90, do it do it do it.

I have long predicted the entire goal of DOGE was to feed more data to Palantir, and clearly no other company is ever going to be given this level of security clearance, so they become dependent on it forever. I think this view is gaining more traction from what I've seen.

They will investigate themselves, but they'll find no wrongdoing.

Link to the interview where this article seems to be deriving its information from: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/whistleblower-responds-after-doj-confirms-doge-mishandled-social-security-data

You mean I couldn't trust my private data with Big Balls?

And your mother’s maiden name

Also - create an irs profile and check to require a password to file taxes. And also create ssa profile and check the data.

In any other country, I would agree. In the US, you're guaranteed they will privatize the shit out of it until it's costly, inefficient, unreliable, but someone became a billionaire.

Thanks Doge. Daily reminder. Fuck Elon.

Thanks a lot DOGE. So clearly Elon Musk gives every American compensation, we get new numbers and have all of our credit history wiped clean to start new right? Bc otherwise this just means we've all been massively fucked by Trump and his band of idiots

Obviously the entire goal was to make the government dependent on their select batch of private companies which they control. Palantir is one, but don't forget the huge order for military-grade armored Teslas. And probably many similar cases.

American government is again a laughingstock. Another comedy episode for the plutocrats in Moscow.

The original idea is exactly for identification (just not secure ones). Think of it like writing your name on the inside of your jacket or have a name tag on your luggage.

Instead of new SSNs, how about we maybe the number less risky in general?

It should never have served as a "secret". Authenticating someone needs more than some account number. SSN should be more of a "username", not a password.

000, 666 and 900-999 are invalid area numbers and any digit group of all zeros is also invalid. Thanks for playing!

I need to move

You didn't get your SSN converted to SSID with the microchip Moderna mRNA vax?

His wealth spread across everyone living in the U.S. is ~ $2500 a person

Not adult, not citizen, not household,..

Person

DOGE was a coup within a coup.

It was never meant to part of any kind of database, but banks and businesses found a loophole to that a long ass time ago and now we're here.

I could use an extra $2500.

Honestly, having SSNs as identification in the first place is the main problem

I agree with you in principal, verifying your identity before voting is important because elections are important. We should be having a conversation about creating a system that is both comprehensive and also doesn’t impose a burden on people without means. For example, a lot of people don’t have an ID to satisfy the proposed requirements and would have a difficult time getting these credentials before election day.

That is your problem number 2...

In addition, in order to get these documents a person would have to jump through a lot of bureaucratic loopholes and pay fees. Many of these people are poorer and are more affected by the dire economic situation. The systems are complicated and despite being involved in this sphere for a few years I couldn’t tell you the steps and fees required to get all of the documents. This isn’t a simple system where a person can just walk into a government office and walk out with a working ID.

and that is you problem number 1.
It is inconceivable to me that a situation like this could even exist in the US.
I get that many US people would start crying about "freedom" and everything else but the basic line is that a ID should be mandated by law for everyone. And it should be easy to obtain, I mean how difficult could be to do it ? Seriously.

It seems to me that these are not real problem, other countries solved them dozens of years ago, it is just that you people (assuming you are from US) don't want to solve them.

If we’re going to have a system requiring Secure IDs (I’m not sure the EU analog, but you guys have a similar secure identity scheme being pushed) then we need to make getting Secure IDs dead simple because the average citizen needs to be able to vote and also shouldn’t be subjected to heavy administrative burden in order to participate in the democratic system.

A card with a chip and all the information in that chip, to read it you need just a reader.
Or a qrcode with all the information encoded ?
Even the old Italian ID (made of paper) was secure, it does not seems to be a problem without solutions, just copy from someone who already did it.

As for the problem with electronic black box voting stations, yes, they are a problem per se irregardless of who propose or built them. They would be a problem for the exact same reasons if they were proposed by Biden. But I still belive that a selection of who can vote done as you suggest is impraticable, you have no way of knowing who vote what before. A massive refusal to allow a certain population to vote would be noted in the end.

Elections are run by the individual states (unless something egregiously unconstitutional is going on) which allows the governor and even local election officials to make decisions that affect how hard it is to vote almost down to a street level basis.

Same here, it does not seems to be a problem.

If you don’t want people from blue areas to vote, you just put in fewer polling stations, and make them in less convenient places for areas that skew blue on the map.

That assumes that you already know how people would vote. Yes, historical data could give a hint but not a certainty. It is some times that polls are spectacularly wrong.

So adding 30 seconds to the voting time doesn’t really matter for a rural station that might need to service 100 people in a day, but for an inner city location that might need to service 100 people a minute those 30 seconds per person really add up.

True, but think about who could spare more time when voting (hint, probably not the people you want to vote) and you will realize that it is a stupid idea.

What do you think it's meant for? It's a perfect fit for any database that needs to uniquely identify a person.

The problem is using it as authorization without any other checks.

Damn Roosevelt

Military grade Teslas? I support ICE having those.

DOOR LOCKS, SIZZLE

This is the reality in some other countries. In Sweden, our "SSN" is our date of birth followed by four numbers that have different meanings depending on when you were born. During the period I was born it was an area code, and a binary of male/female and a control number. This has changed over time to not be exactly the same for newer generations. All of this information is available publicly to search for through our version of the IRS that then trickles out to various private companies that just publish it out right.

I personally have a dislike for this system, as I am a major privacy enjoyer. But people can't really do anything with the information if they had it. If someone looks up my name and SSN, they have it, but can't bring me harm.

All this data and more is publicly available in many countries.

This is how Americans are going to lose their right to vote. The process will be "slow" for specific states and regions, just long enough to miss the midterms.

It seems to me that these are not real problem, other countries solved them dozens of years ago, it is just that you people (assuming you are from US) don’t want to solve them.

I'm aware of the problems and I donate a large portion of my time towards working to fix these issues which were put into place long before I was born. These systems exist as they do for a lot of reasons, many of which are bad. Fixing them will take time and political willpower which, prior to ID being weaponized as a means of cutting off voters, did not exist in the US.

It isn't as simple as printing out a QR code or loading personal documents onto an ISO 14443-compliant smartcard. It will require infrastructure, staffing and public education. This isn't something that can be done by election day (in November '26).

They would be a problem for the exact same reasons if they were proposed by Biden. But I still belive that a selection of who can vote done as you suggest is impraticable, you have no way of knowing who vote what before. A massive refusal to allow a certain population to vote would be noted in the end.

It's bad idea no matter who is in charge. All of our voting systems are open to observers and there are multiple observers at all critical points of voting.

Circumventing all of those checks by having a single system who can simply deny a person the ability to vote with no recourse is a bad idea, it would have been a bad idea under Biden and it is a bad idea now.

A massive refusal to allow a certain population to vote would be noted in the end.

It doesn't need to be massive to affect outcomes. A few thousand votes can swing close elections.

Even if someone notices something strange. Do you imagine that Donald Trump would allow for the Department of Homeland Security to investigate the Department of Homeland Security's handling of claimed election interference? Would the newly elected Republican Congress vote to impeach him if he didn't?

If someone notices vote interference, should they call Donald Trump's FBI, Donald Trump's DHS or Donald Trump's CIA? How do you imagine that conversation would go once it made it to the attention of Pattel, Noem or Gabbard?

That's weird, cause I see *******11111111111111

Thanks DOGE! Jesus, trump, how could you be so fucking stupid and uncaring? You have done nothing more than shove the monopoly board of america off of the table in a big tantrum because you were losing. Don't forget, America made you, America can bring you down.

Life in prison would be nice too. Fuck him and his ketamine bender

Not if you are republican in Tennessee, you are then encouraged to bumfuck your relatives for fun on Sundays.

Y'all won your right to vote once, you can do it again.

I feel like he would just buy his luxury in prison like Pablo Escobar.

I think the worst punishment for people like Thiel and Musk would be to have their assets seized and any future wages garnished to be paid to the victims of their crimes, while they're forced to attempt to survive in the society they've helped create.

The consequences they face will serve as an example and deterrent for others like them and one of two things would happen. Billionaires suddenly experience empathy/gain a conscience and conditions improve for all of society, or, billionaires continue to maintain the conditions they've created while one by one falling victim to their own creations. Most likely they check themselves out very quickly rather than attempt to survive the nightmare they had no problems inflicting on others. Either way equals a net gain for society.

It's the day of the lard after all.

Totally. I meant life in prison in addition to having all of their assets seized. They deserve to rot.

thank you very much!