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NomNom
feddit.uk
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GargleBlaster
feddit.org
GargleBlaster@feddit.org Joined: 2025-06-23 |
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aard
kyu.de
aard@kyu.deJoined: 2023-06-09 |
This is a quite important discussion - the last years have seen an increase of cases where people needed to be rescued from situations they should not have gotten themselves in. That includes school groups where teachers didn't bother to prepare, and people without experience following influencers route suggestions. I guess next step would be checking liability for those as well. Properly equipped with a bivy bag that situation might have been survivable. |
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RamRabbit
lemmy.world
RamRabbit@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-16 |
The court heard Thomas P had left his girlfriend alone and exposed in the open and pushed on alone, apparently believing he could secure assistance from a hut on the other side of the mountain. He had declined the offer of assistance from a rescue helicopter that had been sent to see if they required help. What.
Reminds me of the Parable of the Drowning Man:
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muelltonne
feddit.org
muelltonne@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Not sure here - if you take a look at that case, he straight up murdered his girlfriend there on the mountain. That should not put people off activity. |
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birdwing
lemmy.blahaj.zone
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-08-19 |
Reminds me of the Parable of the Drowning Man: A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe. "Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast." "No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He wi...
Such a good story. I like to tell that one to evangelists, but they cut me off before I can finish it. Oh well... |
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cron
feddit.org
cron@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-21 |
I’d prefer it if inexperienced people did not attempt to climb the Großglockner - Austria’s highest peak - in winter, especially with non-alpinists. If you do find yourself in this situation, please call for help and stay on the line until rescuers arrive. |
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Endymion_Mallorn
kbin.melroy.org
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.orgJoined: 2024-11-17 |
Reminds me of the Parable of the Drowning Man: A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe. "Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast." "No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He wi...
In a more brutal context: Praise the Lord, pass the ammunition. |
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aard
kyu.de
aard@kyu.deJoined: 2023-06-09 |
The court heard Thomas P had left his girlfriend alone and exposed in the open and pushed on alone, apparently believing he could secure assistance from a hut on the other side of the mountain. He had declined the offer of assistance from a rescue helicopter that had been sent to see if they required help. What.
Helicopter rescue is a few thousand euros - and unless you have an insurance for that you have to pay that by yourself. No idea if that was the case here - but it'd not be the first time that somebody refused rescue because of the cost. Don't go into the alps without experience - and make sure you have proper insurance. If you're a member of the Alpenverein (as I am) you'd be covered - but probably also gained enough experience to not get stuck in such an entirely avoidable situation anyway. |
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Kornblumenratte
feddit.org
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org Joined: 2024-11-10 |
This is a quite important discussion - the last years have seen an increase of cases where people needed to be rescued from situations they should not have gotten themselves in. That includes school groups where teachers didn't bother to prepare, and people without experience following influencers route suggestions. I guess next step would be checking liability for those as well. Properly equip...
She had a bivouac sack with her. That's why they found him guilty: it was his 15^th or 16^th tour on the Großglockner, he took her with him with moonboots instead of proper mountain shoes, declined several help offers and left her with her bivouac gear stowed away in the backpack. |
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aard
kyu.de
aard@kyu.deJoined: 2023-06-09 |
She had a bivouac sack with her. That's why they found him guilty: it was his 15^th or 16^th tour on the Großglockner, he took her with him with moonboots instead of proper mountain shoes, declined several help offers and left her with her bivouac gear stowed away in the backpack.
I missed that she had that with her - that makes things even worse. Either he's a weapons grade moron, or he planned that trip to kill her. |
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Zwuzelmaus
feddit.org
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org Joined: 2024-12-14 |
Then so be it. The mountains are not in need of idiots, and the tourism industry can find other ways to keep the idiots busy. People with some experience and some brains will have no problems. |
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Zwuzelmaus
feddit.org
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org Joined: 2024-12-14 |
This is a quite important discussion - the last years have seen an increase of cases where people needed to be rescued from situations they should not have gotten themselves in. That includes school groups where teachers didn't bother to prepare, and people without experience following influencers route suggestions. I guess next step would be checking liability for those as well. Properly equip...
Would be a good thing.
Yes, teachers should have the same liability. |
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trollercoaster
sh.itjust.works
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-12 |
Helicopter rescue is a few thousand euros - and unless you have an insurance for that you have to pay that by yourself. No idea if that was the case here - but it'd not be the first time that somebody refused rescue because of the cost. Don't go into the alps without experience - and make sure you have proper insurance. If you're a member of the Alpenverein (as I am) you'd be covered - but prob...
Austria will charge people who get themselves into danger in the mountains recklessly for their rescue. And that's right. Mountain rescue is dangerous. Those idiots don't only endanger themselves, but also those who have to rescue them. |
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trollercoaster
sh.itjust.works
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-12 |
next step would be checking liability for those as well. Would be a good thing. school groups where teachers didn't bother to prepare Yes, teachers should have the same liability.
Technically, they already have, but the justice system rarely prosecutes them for recklessly endangering the pupils in their charge. |
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