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ccunning lemmy.world ccunning@lemmy.world
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#NotAllVampires

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MBech feddit.dk MBech@feddit.dk
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I'd wager all the vampires who lived a long time were of a wealthy or powerful family though. Wouldn't take all that long to figure out Jonathan who suddenly doesn't work his fields in the day anymore is a vampire, but the count/duke/rich cunt who nobody sees anyway? Could live for centuries just being rich and weird.

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

On the contrary: vampires are an allegory for the upper class, being parasites who suck the blood (wealth) from society.

(Also, the nature of being immortal means you have plenty of time to wait for your investments to appreciate, so all but the newest vampires should be wealthy enough to afford a castle if they want.)

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Tenthrow lemmy.world Tenthrow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
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Good point though. Most vampires are gutter punks.

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ThatGuy46475 lemmy.world ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-25
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#NotAllVampires

#NoTallVampires

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lemonwood lemmy.ml lemonwood@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-29
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Yes, Dracula lived in a castle because he was a landlord. But all classic vampires in literature are in a sense. Originally, in oral history and folk takes, vampires were more about fear of sickness and about not understanding how diseases spread.
But later, literary Vampires were a standin for the universal experience of how landlords are bloodsucking pests. Take Dracula: the protagonist is a solicitor who comes to Transylvania to help the vampire buy land and various properties in England. Then the plot revolves around preventing his moving to England, but the heroes fail at that, because he has prepared to well, is just too rich and has filled out all the legal paperwork.

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notabot piefed.social notabot@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
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Any vampire that doesn't live in a castle or similatly expensive abode is either a) fairly new to the vampiring game, b) actively chosing not to, or c) terrible at investing.

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Makeitstop lemmy.world Makeitstop@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
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I'd wager all the vampires who lived a long time were of a wealthy or powerful family though. Wouldn't take all that long to figure out Jonathan who suddenly doesn't work his fields in the day anymore is a vampire, but the count/duke/rich cunt who nobody sees anyway? Could live for centuries just being rich and weird.

On the other hand, rich and powerful people from influential families are much more noticeable. People will see you not aging, and they are more likely to recognize you if you are caught feeding. It will stand out if you never eat, only show up at night, or don't have a reflection. Plus, I suspect that people who grew up rich and spoiled will be far less likely to know how to avoid drawing attention compared to people who've lived at the mercy of those in power.

A filthy vagrant however can just wander from town to town for centuries without anyone noticing anything too out of the ordinary. Every time you arrive in a new location, it's a fresh start. As long as you keep a low profile, no one's going to be coordinating and comparing records looking for a wandering serial killer. Although traveling in a small group posing as a family or merchants would probably be safer since people are less likely to assume you're all dangerous.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more a circus or carnival sounds like a great place for vampires. You have permanent mobile shelter complete with loyal followers. You have plausible deniability for anything being weird or off, including an easy explanation for only being seen at night (show time). If you sell alcohol and can feed on people without killing or turning them, you're pretty much set.

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Hazmatastic lemmy.world Hazmatastic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-07
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Any vampire that doesn't live in a castle or similatly expensive abode is either a) fairly new to the vampiring game, b) actively chosing not to, or c) terrible at investing.

I've said it before and ill say it again: if you can't make money as an immortal, you just can't make money

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Tyrq lemmy.dbzer0.com Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-10
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My vtm character is trailer trash, it's pretty great honestly

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October lemmy.world edgemaster72@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

The vampires in your workplace:

Energy vampire Colin Robinson, a character from the show What We Do In The Shadows, sharpening multiple pencils back to back

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
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On the contrary: vampires are an allegory for the upper class, being parasites who suck the blood (wealth) from society. (Also, the nature of being immortal means you have plenty of time to wait for your investments to appreciate, so all but the newest vampires should be wealthy enough to afford a castle if they want.)

That's what Bram Stoker's Dracula was about, which has shaped modern ideas of vampires.

Older stories were a little bit more "monster in the dark". There was a fairly famous case where 18th century New Englanders took the heart out of a young dead woman, burned it and fed it to her brother to break a vampiric curse.

Since the actual curse seems to have been tuberculosis, this didn't quite work.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
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Fun vampire fact:

It is considered extremely rude and offensive, in vampire culture, to not allow a guest who really needs to use the bathroom into your home, to use it and then quickly leave.

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πŸ‰ DrRedOctopus πŸ™πŸ‰ lemmy.world IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-29
#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

I've said it before and ill say it again: if you can't make money as an immortal, you just can't make money

you're immortal you'll eventually learn that the blind accumulation of wealth is a treacherous poison and that the true treasure is community.

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A_norny_mousse piefed.zip A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-04
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The vampires in your workplace:

Haha, I was looking for a mention of this guy.

What We Do in the Shadows | Colin Robinson: Energy Vampire

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Apeman42 lemmy.world Apeman42@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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On the other hand, rich and powerful people from influential families are much more noticeable. People will see you not aging, and they are more likely to recognize you if you are caught feeding. It will stand out if you never eat, only show up at night, or don't have a reflection. Plus, I suspect that people who grew up rich and spoiled will be far less likely to know how to avoid drawing atte...

Cirque du Sanguine, coming this fall on HBO.

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deadbeef79000 lemmy.nz deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-17
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On the other hand, rich and powerful people from influential families are much more noticeable. People will see you not aging, and they are more likely to recognize you if you are caught feeding. It will stand out if you never eat, only show up at night, or don't have a reflection. Plus, I suspect that people who grew up rich and spoiled will be far less likely to know how to avoid drawing atte...

A filthy vagrant however can just wander from town to town for centuries without anyone noticing anything too out of the ordinary.

Ah, the Belgarath approach.

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

you're immortal you'll eventually learn that the blind accumulation of wealth is a treacherous poison and that the true treasure is community.

Yes, vampires often live in nests, but I'm not sure about that first part.

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EdgeOfDistraction lemmy.world EdgeOfDistraction@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-17
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That's what Bram Stoker's Dracula was about, which has shaped modern ideas of vampires. Older stories were a little bit more "monster in the dark". There was a fairly famous case where 18th century New Englanders took the heart out of a young dead woman, burned it and fed it to her brother to break a vampiric curse. Since the actual curse seems to have been tuberculosis, this didn't quite work.

I'm willing to bet there haven't been any vampires in that family since, so...

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Macchi_the_Slime piefed.blahaj.zone Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-05
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That's what Bram Stoker's Dracula was about, which has shaped modern ideas of vampires. Older stories were a little bit more "monster in the dark". There was a fairly famous case where 18th century New Englanders took the heart out of a young dead woman, burned it and fed it to her brother to break a vampiric curse. Since the actual curse seems to have been tuberculosis, this didn't quite work.

God damn, is everything tuberculosis or something?

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
#22 · Quote Reply

God damn, is everything tuberculosis or something?

I read a book that made that argument.

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Macchi_the_Slime piefed.blahaj.zone Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-05
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I read a book that made that argument.

Ay, somebody got my reference! xD

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AA5B lemmy.world AA5B@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
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The monsters have never been the problem, it’s always been class warfare. The nobility are the monsters

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Gathorall lemmy.world Gathorall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-13
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Fun vampire fact: It is considered extremely rude and offensive, in vampire culture, to not allow a guest who really needs to use the bathroom into your home, to use it and then quickly leave.

I thought vampires didn't urinate or defecate? Touching up your hair also seems tricky.

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gressen lemmy.zip gressen@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
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Ay, somebody got my reference! xD

Sigh... share with the class, please.

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fartographer lemmy.world fartographer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-29
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Sigh... share with the class, please.

They both read a book and got tuberculosis

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

I thought vampires didn't urinate or defecate? Touching up your hair also seems tricky.

Well, I mean, what, are you running a hemoglobin screen on everyone you meet?

How are you to know who is and isn't a vampire?

(lol)

But uh I hadn't heard the no urinating or defecating thing. Maybe I missed it? I've more familiar with the uh, more vintage vampire lore, than with... sparkly caesarean sections.

I basically mean most stuff up to Buffy.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
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The monsters have never been the problem, it’s always been class warfare. The nobility are the monsters

I was gonna say something about how there should be a modern setting with working class vampires. Then I remembered that vampire the Masquerade exists and has the Anarchs.

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thedoginthewok lemmy.world thedoginthewok@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#30 · Quote Reply

Sigh... share with the class, please.

"Everything Is Tuberculosis" by John Green

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
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God damn, is everything tuberculosis or something?

No, sometimes it's hallucinogenic bread mold.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
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you're immortal you'll eventually learn that the blind accumulation of wealth is a treacherous poison and that the true treasure is community.

Arguably a castle is a fortress first an abode second. Part of the reason why castles are so expensive now is because the cheap sturdy ones got used for other things over time and the less sturdy ones were abandoned and ruined, this leaves us with the castles that are expensive and annoying to repair.

A vampire could definitely set things up to have an easy to maintain easy to live in fortress akin to Roman castra for them and their clan. Relatively easy to upgrade with the most expensive elements being the living space since the walls probably only need large scale work every hundred years or so.

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