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haverholm
kbin.earth
haverholm@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-11-23 |
We urge Paramount to listen to the voices of millions of fans who are yearning for more adventures in the Starfleet Academy. Renewing the show for a third season is not just a business decision; it's about continuing a legacy, honouring storytelling, and nurturing a global community of Trekkers. |
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blunderworld
lemmy.ca
blunderworld@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
I don't know, Im not a fan of the Kurtzman-era Trek. I'd prefer it if they'd create a series that's closer in tone to the earlier stuff. |
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StillPaisleyCat
startrek.website
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-12 |
I don't know, Im not a fan of the Kurtzman-era Trek. I'd prefer it if they'd create a series that's closer in tone to the earlier stuff.
While that may be your view, I hope you’re not going to work against the show or shows like it either. Because very many people who between 40 and 55 did brigade against this show, gave it very negative reviews, and discouraged others from watching it without watching a full episode themselves. To the point that Psychology Today wrote a feature article The Trouble With Review Bombing. Anyone over 35 is not in the key demographic. I dare say that’s most 90s Star Trek fans and most of us on this board. But if we go out of our way to say that if it’s not made for us we’ll attack it relentlessly so that younger, target viewers won’t even try it, then it’s not going to serve anyone. And yes, I have seen the entire season of SFA. I watched it with my partner and one of our GenZ kids. And I have signed the petition. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
While that may be your view, I hope you’re not going to work against the show or shows like it either. Because very many people who between 40 and 55 did brigade against this show, gave it very negative reviews, and discouraged others from watching it without watching a full episode themselves. To the point that Psychology Today wrote a feature article The Trouble With Review Bombing. Anyone ov...
Ok, so we're all wrong. They cancelled the show because no one watched it, despite free episodes. |
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StillPaisleyCat
startrek.website
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Ok, so we're all wrong. They cancelled the show because no one watched it, despite free episodes.
They put the show on a small niche streamer that doesn’t have an audience in the demographic that the show was made for. The show did much better on Amazon channels than on Paramount+ — ranking 1 or 2 across its run. That tells you that the problem is that Paramount+ has narrowed its audience to Sheridanverse fans, not that the show isn’t good. Every show Paramount+ has tried to attract the younger GenZ audience with has failed. And the streamer is failing — which is why Paramount has been bought and the streamer will be merged with HBO Max. |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Am I the only one who thinks that a change.org petition would be way less effective than a TOS-style actual-paper-letter-writing campaign? |
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HobbitFoot
thelemmy.club
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Am I the only one who thinks that a change.org petition would be way less effective than a TOS-style actual-paper-letter-writing campaign?
I can't remember which show it was, but fans wrote in letters on KFC bucket packaging because KFC was a major advertiser on the show. |
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haverholm
kbin.earth
haverholm@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-11-23 |
Am I the only one who thinks that a change.org petition would be way less effective than a TOS-style actual-paper-letter-writing campaign?
You could be right. But then, why can't we have both? |
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haverholm
kbin.earth
haverholm@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-11-23 |
Ok, so we're all wrong. They cancelled the show because no one watched it, despite free episodes.
It's not that you're "all" wrong, it's that you insist nobody else is right to like something you decided you didn't without watching it. There were people who followed the show and liked it. The number of signers to the petition vastly outnumber the downvotes to my posts sharing it here. You can deal with that gracefully, or continue as you started 🤷 |
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tacosanonymous
mander.xyz
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-30 |
They put the show on a small niche streamer that doesn’t have an audience in the demographic that the show was made for. The show did much better on Amazon channels than on Paramount+ — ranking 1 or 2 across its run. That tells you that the problem is that Paramount+ has narrowed its audience to Sheridanverse fans, not that the show isn’t good. Every show Paramount+ has tried to attract the you...
That's my take as well. I’ve only seen one ep and I liked it. I just haven’t found the time to get access to it bc I won’t subscribe to bullshit services. |
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mulcahey
lemmy.world
mulcahey@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I can't remember which show it was, but fans wrote in letters on KFC bucket packaging because KFC was a major advertiser on the show.
So for Paramount Plus, guess we have to write in on... Trump letterhead? |
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MadMadBunny
lemmy.ca
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I don't know, Im not a fan of the Kurtzman-era Trek. I'd prefer it if they'd create a series that's closer in tone to the earlier stuff.
That is your opinion. I’m a huge fan of Kurtzman and all the New Trek that he created. I love them all. I often rewatch Discovery, Picard, even Academy. I need it. I need this. The entire world is gone to shit, and his shows, his creations, are the only thing that sooth me right now. These comments, like the one you just made, are exactly why Academy has been cancelled, why Discovery was cut short, and so forth. I truly dislike Star Wars. And yet, you’ll never see me bitching about it in their forums. I don’t think about it at all until something about it shows up, and even then, I just ignore it and move along, like any normal person would do. If you don’t like it, if it’s not for you, then just don’t watch it, but shut the fuck up!!!! Let those who enjoy it, enjoy it. Yes, "you’re entitled to your opinion etc.", but do you absolutely have to ruin it for everyone else?!? You’re part of the problem here. You, and all others with their continuous vile comments, bear part of the responsibility in the cancellation of a beloved, respected show. |
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James R Kirk
startrek.website
Kirk@startrek.websiteJoined: 2025-03-01 |
Am I the only one who thinks that a change.org petition would be way less effective than a TOS-style actual-paper-letter-writing campaign?
I did both I'm also doing a hunger strike outside Paramount's headquarters |
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red_green_black
slrpnk.net
green_red_black@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-19 |
Really a petition on a data collection site and an AI photo 🙄 |
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firelight
startrek.website
firelight@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-27 |
That is your opinion. I’m a huge fan of Kurtzman and all the New Trek that he created. I love them all. I often rewatch Discovery, Picard, even Academy. I need it. I need this. The entire world is gone to shit, and his shows, his creations, are the only thing that sooth me right now. These comments, like the one you just made, are exactly why Academy has been cancelled, why Discovery was cut sh...
It's fine if people voice their opinions whether in agreement or disagreement. From his perspective, you're part of the problem because you're advocating for resources to be spent on what you prefer over what he prefers. |
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MadMadBunny
lemmy.ca
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
It's fine if people voice their opinions whether in agreement or disagreement. From his perspective, you're part of the problem because you're advocating for resources to be spent on what you prefer over what he prefers.
So, what you’re telling me is, we should just take it like a good docile doggy and let all the new trek and its show runner be bullied into oblivion by trolls, incels and haters? Because that’s exactly what you’re saying by taking their defence. |
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I_Has_A_Hat
lemmy.world
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-24 |
Starfleet Academy fucking REEKS of being one of those instances where someone had a story concept that was too weak to stand on its own so they slapped a beloved existing IP over it and called it a day. I'm glad its getting canceled, that sort of thing should never be rewarded. It's lazy and insulting to the fans of whatever IP they stole to try to prop up their mediocre story. |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
While that may be your view, I hope you’re not going to work against the show or shows like it either. Because very many people who between 40 and 55 did brigade against this show, gave it very negative reviews, and discouraged others from watching it without watching a full episode themselves. To the point that Psychology Today wrote a feature article The Trouble With Review Bombing. Anyone ov...
They just said they didn’t like it. Chill. |
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MadMadBunny
lemmy.ca
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Really a petition on a data collection site and an AI photo 🙄
Do you happen to know any alternatives to suggest? |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
That is your opinion. I’m a huge fan of Kurtzman and all the New Trek that he created. I love them all. I often rewatch Discovery, Picard, even Academy. I need it. I need this. The entire world is gone to shit, and his shows, his creations, are the only thing that sooth me right now. These comments, like the one you just made, are exactly why Academy has been cancelled, why Discovery was cut sh...
That is your opinion. Your argument that only your opinion may be spoken is invalid. |
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MadMadBunny
lemmy.ca
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
That is your opinion. Your argument that only your opinion may be spoken is invalid.
That is not what I wrote. |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
So, what you’re telling me is, we should just take it like a good docile doggy and let all the new trek and its show runner be bullied into oblivion by trolls, incels and haters? Because that’s exactly what you’re saying by taking their defence.
No, we’re telling you to maybe not jump down the throat of anyone who says “I dunno, I didn’t like it” like they are actively trying to kill your puppy. This post is taking up space in everyone’s feed, calling them to go sign. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone saying “eh, nah.” |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
That is not what I wrote.
Yes it is. You told anyone who doesn’t like it to shut the fuck up.
Now let me get some🍿 and watch you dance about trying to argue that you didn’t say this. |
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firelight
startrek.website
firelight@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-27 |
So, what you’re telling me is, we should just take it like a good docile doggy and let all the new trek and its show runner be bullied into oblivion by trolls, incels and haters? Because that’s exactly what you’re saying by taking their defence.
I'm saying you need to touch grass and let people voice their own opinion of a TV show. This "shut up or agree with me" mentality is nuts. |
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blunderworld
lemmy.ca
blunderworld@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
That is your opinion. I’m a huge fan of Kurtzman and all the New Trek that he created. I love them all. I often rewatch Discovery, Picard, even Academy. I need it. I need this. The entire world is gone to shit, and his shows, his creations, are the only thing that sooth me right now. These comments, like the one you just made, are exactly why Academy has been cancelled, why Discovery was cut sh...
Damn, I never said you shouldn't like the show, or that it's objectively bad. I just expressed my preference for the direction of future trek projects, in what I thought was a relevant thread. You know it's okay to enjoy something without making it your entire personality right? Leave your unfounded generalisations in the trash where they belong. |
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FreeBooteR69
lemmy.ca
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.caJoined: 2021-01-14 |
Starfleet Academy fucking REEKS of being one of those instances where someone had a story concept that was too weak to stand on its own so they slapped a beloved existing IP over it and called it a day. I'm glad its getting canceled, that sort of thing should never be rewarded. It's lazy and insulting to the fans of whatever IP they stole to try to prop up their mediocre story.
I'm with you, i couldn't watch past 3rd episode, it was just too cringe inducing for me. I love Strange New Worlds though, i don't want that atrocity that is Academy poison the Star Trek well. |
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Jarix
lemmy.world
Jarix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I've wanted a star trek academy since the TNG Episode The First Duty. My brother and I have discussed many different ideas for the show. What we got was so so so disappointing to everything I wanted out of that environment. Sorry it's not a show I care to support. Sorry for your loss. Please let it die |
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red_green_black
slrpnk.net
green_red_black@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-19 |
Do you happen to know any alternatives to suggest?
Yeah. An actual image of the show. And a spreadsheet that is readable |
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Tattorack
lemmy.world
Tattorack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-28 |
Do you happen to know any alternatives to suggest?
Yes. Let NuTrek die. |
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Tattorack
lemmy.world
Tattorack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-28 |
"Millions" of fans. Viewership is so low for this series, I doubt it comes close to just one million. A significant portion of the positive user reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are bots, very obviously bots (I can post examples if you don't believe me). But even with all the botting it cannot get a marginally decent user score. I could say "just leave it die", but I'm confident enough there aren't enough of you who actually like the series to make a difference. So...uh... Good luck. |
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Tattorack
lemmy.world
Tattorack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-28 |
While that may be your view, I hope you’re not going to work against the show or shows like it either. Because very many people who between 40 and 55 did brigade against this show, gave it very negative reviews, and discouraged others from watching it without watching a full episode themselves. To the point that Psychology Today wrote a feature article The Trouble With Review Bombing. Anyone ov...
It's not Trek. The negative reviews are deserved. |
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Tattorack
lemmy.world
Tattorack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-28 |
They put the show on a small niche streamer that doesn’t have an audience in the demographic that the show was made for. The show did much better on Amazon channels than on Paramount+ — ranking 1 or 2 across its run. That tells you that the problem is that Paramount+ has narrowed its audience to Sheridanverse fans, not that the show isn’t good. Every show Paramount+ has tried to attract the you...
I highly doubt any of this. A good series can attract people to a platform. Problem is, nothing NuTrek has comes even close to be something platform-attracting. That says more about the quality than the platform itself. |
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FordBeeblebrox
lemmy.world
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Make more Prodigy instead and turn SFA into the CW school drama it was supposed to be |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
They put the show on a small niche streamer that doesn’t have an audience in the demographic that the show was made for. The show did much better on Amazon channels than on Paramount+ — ranking 1 or 2 across its run. That tells you that the problem is that Paramount+ has narrowed its audience to Sheridanverse fans, not that the show isn’t good. Every show Paramount+ has tried to attract the you...
oh, I'm sure the infantile writing and shallow characters had nothing to do with it. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
That is your opinion. I’m a huge fan of Kurtzman and all the New Trek that he created. I love them all. I often rewatch Discovery, Picard, even Academy. I need it. I need this. The entire world is gone to shit, and his shows, his creations, are the only thing that sooth me right now. These comments, like the one you just made, are exactly why Academy has been cancelled, why Discovery was cut sh...
So we're supposed to watch bad TV for some kind of social conscience and responsibility? and if we don't watch what we like, we are "The Problem". I'm getting an insight into modern Star Trek fans here. |
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jtrek
startrek.website
jtrek@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-22 |
I don't know, Im not a fan of the Kurtzman-era Trek. I'd prefer it if they'd create a series that's closer in tone to the earlier stuff.
No television show will make you feel as you did when you were a child, watching star trek for the first time. |
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blunderworld
lemmy.ca
blunderworld@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
No television show will make you feel as you did when you were a child, watching star trek for the first time.
I watched Star Trek the first time as an adult. I just personally find the writing much better and the characters much more believable in the earlier series. |
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lath
piefed.social
lath@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-16 |
I'm with you, i couldn't watch past 3rd episode, it was just too cringe inducing for me. I love Strange New Worlds though, i don't want that atrocity that is Academy poison the Star Trek well.
Hey, remember that guy who wanted to hypersexualize Troi, 7 of 9, T'Pol, Sato etc? |
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