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Credit cards cancelled, Google accounts closed: ICC judges on life under Trump sanctions
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Lee Duna lemmy.nz throws_lemy@lemmy.nz
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When the Canadian Kimberly Prost learned Donald Trump’s administration had imposed sanctions on her, it came as a shock.

For years, she has sat as a judge at the international criminal court, weighing accusations of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity; now she is on the same list as terrorists and those involved in organised crime. “It really was a moment of a bit of disbelief,” she said.

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Mihies programming.dev Mihies@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-06-16
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That's why we need an alternative to US credit cards yesterday. And also a spine transplant to politicians.

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abacabadabacaba infosec.pub abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-02-23
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That's why we need an alternative to US credit cards yesterday. And also a spine transplant to politicians.

It's not just cards. Many banks today require using a mobile app for online banking, and those apps require an Apple- or Google-certified device and an Apple or Google account. While it is possible to open those accounts under a false name (the apps are free so you don't need to enter payment info), this is still an absurd amount of leverage the US has on everyday people's activities in other countries.

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Mihies programming.dev Mihies@programming.dev
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It's not just cards. Many banks today require using a mobile app for online banking, and those apps require an Apple- or Google-certified device and an Apple or Google account. While it is possible to open those accounts under a false name (the apps are free so you don't need to enter payment info), this is still an absurd amount of leverage the US has on everyday people's activities in other c...

Yes, that too. However, you have alternatives to Android to some degree that would allow a banking app to work. Nevertheless, we need a non-US operating system for mobile devices and so on.

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Lee Duna lemmy.nz throws_lemy@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-30
#5 · Quote Reply

That's why we need an alternative to US credit cards yesterday. And also a spine transplant to politicians.

Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example

https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787

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abacabadabacaba infosec.pub abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-02-23
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Yes, that too. However, you have alternatives to Android to some degree that would allow a banking app to work. Nevertheless, we need a non-US operating system for mobile devices and so on.

Not if an app uses Play Integrity. The entire purpose of Play Integrity is to not work on anything that is not a Google-certified OS.

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atropa piefed.social atropa@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-02
#7 · Quote Reply

Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787
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Mihies programming.dev Mihies@programming.dev
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Not if an app uses Play Integrity. The entire purpose of Play Integrity is to not work on anything that is not a Google-certified OS.

Yes, that's why I said to some degree. I didn't test it, but at least some banking apps work from what I hear. I plan to test it soon.

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Mihies programming.dev Mihies@programming.dev
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They isolate your app, right. That is good enough for me for an interim period.

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elmicha feddit.org elmicha@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-27
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Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787

In Europe there's WERO which was started to replace Paypal. It's still in its infancy though.

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Lee Duna lemmy.nz throws_lemy@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-30
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In Europe there's WERO which was started to replace Paypal. It's still in its infancy though.

In our country, we use QR code payments. Currently, we have agreements to use this payment method with several countries in Asia. But it's still infuriating because most online payment and banking apps require Google Play Services.

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bdonvr thelemmy.club bdonvr@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787

It's usually because they use Google for notification services

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plyth feddit.org plyth@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-05-11
#13 · Quote Reply

The EU commission can do the same. Some people agree since there are strong Russian connections. But canceling the ability to pay without a judical verdict is wrong. https://feddit.org/post/26079160

My fear is that this will come to anybody who is inconvenient to those in power.

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we_all_live_in_a_capital_i lemmy.ca we_all_live_in_a_capital_i@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-17
#14 · Quote Reply

The EU commission can do the same. Some people agree since there are strong Russian connections. But canceling the ability to pay without a judical verdict is wrong. https://feddit.org/post/26079160 My fear is that this will come to anybody who is inconvenient to those in power.

Sometimes sanctions have to be swift, like sanctioning Russian oligarchs or manufacturers supporting the war. But there should be repercussions for sanctions imposed in bad faith or to intimidate.

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Iamcanadian piefed.ca Iamcanadian@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-01-31
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I’d like to know what the Canadian government and the EU are going to do about this.

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plyth feddit.org plyth@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-05-11
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Sometimes sanctions have to be swift, like sanctioning Russian oligarchs or manufacturers supporting the war. But there should be repercussions for sanctions imposed in bad faith or to intimidate.

There must also be a minimum of monthly allowed funds for food and shelter. Those sanctions will come for regular citizens and at worst they will be imposed by an AI for comments on the internet, for anything the EU doesn't like.

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D_C sh.itjust.works D_C@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-04
#17 · Quote Reply

It's weird, I don't want to sanction an ICC judge. Let's have a look why that is...

Hmmm, the only thing I can think of is that maybe it's because I'm not an international criminal?
So, by that logic, anyone who sanctions an ICC judge must therefore be an international criminal.

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tirateimas lemmy.pt tirateimas@lemmy.pt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#18 · Quote Reply

Perhaps these actions will start opening people's eyes to the lack of alternatives and to the massive power that controlling financial and technological tools provides.

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rushmonke ttrpg.network rushmonke@ttrpg.network
Joined: 2026-02-16
#19 · Quote Reply

Wouldn't have this problem with Monero.

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phx lemmy.world phx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#20 · Quote Reply

It's not just cards. Many banks today require using a mobile app for online banking, and those apps require an Apple- or Google-certified device and an Apple or Google account. While it is possible to open those accounts under a false name (the apps are free so you don't need to enter payment info), this is still an absurd amount of leverage the US has on everyday people's activities in other c...

All my banks have apps but I haven't found any that don't support just a browser

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
#21 · Quote Reply

ill be a judge and take these "punishments" where their Xitter and facebook accounts canceled to

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Art3mis lemmy.world ThunderQueen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-15
#22 · Quote Reply

ill be a judge and take these "punishments" where their Xitter and facebook accounts canceled to
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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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woosh. I don't have some of those.

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TheBrideWoreCrimson sopuli.xyz TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-06-06
#24 · Quote Reply

In Europe there's WERO which was started to replace Paypal. It's still in its infancy though.

Infancy? At the very least, it's already learned to walk. According to Wikipedia, within 14 months of its launch, 43.5 million users were registered.

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AceFuzzLord lemmy.zip AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#25 · Quote Reply

What would be the ideal answer is for the ICC to turn around and make every complicit company legally international criminals.

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