Why would anyone in the tight state of mind travel to that shit hole?

ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.

There you have it.

A lot of people have relatives who live there.

Ask yourself would you go to Nazi Germany back in the forties? If no, then don't come to Shitler 2.0's version.

I will need to travel there for work next month 🥲

I have a brother (and his group of friends) who decided to go, and they are full into their sunken cost fallacy at the moment. It would be very tough to reason them out.

Yup. This is by no means the first allegation they get paid bounties. It was being said everywhere just prior to the shootings of Mrs. Good and Mr. Pretti last month.

Perverse incentives breed perverse behaviour.

Refuse it.
At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now.
6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it.

We have the World Cup this year and the Olympics in 2028. I can see competitors being detained, let alone ordinary fans. It's all going to kick off and I can't wait to see how the world's media will try to sanewash it.

Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn't have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE.
Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada.

That doesn't mean they must go there. Better use the money for the ticket to get your relatives out before it's too late.

Ugh I've got to go later this year, not looking forward to it.

Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”.

Tbh I dont think they’ll even try to sanewash it anymore. How is it that the rest of the world is even contemplating taking part in these games in the first place?
How is it that the emperor got the 2 most famous sporting events to be hosted in his empire in the first place?
Nah, we don’t ask questions and just suck up the slop.

Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol.
Might be news bias but still.

6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it.

They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests.

Refuse it

I am strongly considering that anyway...

*thirties. Forties would be WW2.

The last world cups were in Russia and Qatar. Not like those are better then the Us, just less powerful. Olympia was decent though.

She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks.
She was locked up with a valid Visa.
Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally.

She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random.

At the time, were those countries assisting a genocide, enabling peadophiles and kidnapping heads of state?
It's scraping the barrel, but tbh I can't think of a worse place than USA.

there were “irregularities” involved

Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation.

I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/

Yeah, in the middle of forties everybody was trying to go there.

Get out of here with your non-manichean views!

Well, to your second question, the host nations for those games are decided years in advance, I think as much as a decade. It's an unfortunate coincidence.

"Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub."

I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into.

There has latelly been a lot of news of this one british lady who visited her father in Texas.

It's as random as arresting the next in line.

It doesn't? I think it does have that risk.

Refuse it, I did... I can attend meetings virtually and will be available via teams, but I am not traveling to the US.

A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US...

Like that British woman who got murdered by her father in Texas?

Well, if the analogy continues, by 2045 there is going to be a Chinese dude with too many wristwatches putting a Chinese flag on the Capitol building while other Chinese dudes drive German and French made military trucks rolling about in the ruined DC streets.

Refuse it. And don't forget: they will be reading this.

I am sorry for your incident but; sorry to ask: with all this mad circus in the USA why would people still insists in travel there?

Yeah, you're right, Russia isn't assisting a genocide right now. I mean, they're conducting their own, so that doesn't count I guess (and that shit started in 2014). Qatar had the World Cup stadiums built with literal slave labour, and we really don't want to talk about the general situation of human rights in these countries (it's bad, really bad), but doesn't matter because they're not the US I guess.

I'm guessing many people still think having valid documentation will keep you out of trouble.

It doesn't. They have ridiculously high quotas to meet, and seemingly no consequences for laws broken by them.

There really shouldn't be any more travel to the USA for now. Even North Korea has a warmer welcome for travelers (but don't travel there either)

but doesn’t matter because they’re not the US I guess.

Correct.

Well, that's weird.

As a Canadian, there is a small but nonzero chance that I would go to an event in the US, in normal times. These are not normal times, and I will not set foot in the country.

That is the difference between Qatar, Russia, and the US.

Honestly a bunch of people are just totally removed from the news cycle and just have no fucking clue, or even if they do, they just think of it like it's fiction, it would only happen to "other people™".

Just to clarify, by "that's the difference" you don't mean you'd travel to Qatar or Russia, but that the situation is new in the US but not new in Russia and Qatar, right?

Agree.
Have a nice day

ignorance, some canadians are still travelling to DISNEY despite all the stuff that happened the whole year in 2025.

its ignorance and apathy, its basically the same with some voters" how does this affect me, i dont think its bad,,,,etc"

Have a nice day

You too!

Lol