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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras. Anger over ICE connections and privacy violations is fueling the sabotage.
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oyenyaaow lemmy.zip oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-13
#202 · Quote Reply

Every X seconds is pretty generous. My Subaru only seems to poll the sensors every few minutes, and only when the wheel speed is above 35 MPH or so, at least via what I've observed with my diagnostic tool. The sensors are battery powered and I suspect the low refresh rate is a deliberate gambit to conserve battery life. You are correct on the ID point, though. They can contain up to 16 hexideci...

can't believe i'm quoting a transformers fanfic but here we are...

“Hang on,” Wheeljack said, “I’d worry about passive systems, not active. This mech wasn’t exactly enthusiastic about where he was going. I’d bet on some kind of system he wouldn’t be able to control at all—better yet, something that doesn’t rely on power or signal at all. Something he couldn’t rip out, or block by hiding—”

Hook and Scrapper had come over. “Exterior composition,” Scrapper said instantly. “I’ve thought of doing something of the sort for transport containers—stripe the cladding with varying amounts of a neutrino-scan-visible material for tracking, even underground. Megatron, if that’s the method they’ve used, we don’t have enough appropriate materials to block it. They’ll be able to locate him with satellite scanners, and they’re certainly sweeping for us already. We’ve got to dispose of him at once. Ideally, by melting him down.”

“Hey!” Ratchet stood up. “How about we don’t jump to slagging one of my patients!”

Hook stared at him as if he was insane. “What melodramatic nonsense. You’ve never even spoken to him!”

“He’s on my table, he’s my patient!” Ratchet said.

“Enough,” Megatron said. “Offer me a rational alternative, or shut up.”

Great, that wasn’t pressure or anything. “Fine, how about this: destroying him is stupid,” Ratchet said. “We still don’t know basically anything about this planet, we’ve nearly been taken down twice already, and now they know for sure we’ll be trying for the Excelsior, which means they’re going to be waiting for us there with everything they’ve got. We need intel, and he’s probably got it.” Megatron’s face didn’t change, but he kept listening, at least. “And we don’t need to cover him head to toe with palladium sheathing. We just need to make sure he doesn’t match the pattern they’re scanning for.”

“Well?” Megatron said to Scrapper.

“We’d have to isolate the material they used… but I suppose Mixmaster could analyze a panel of his frame,” Scrapper said grudgingly. “We could disguise him…”

“Except then they will find a pattern here that doesn’t match anything in their database,” Hook said.

“Yeah, but they can’t have a negative-match process,” Wheeljack put in. “They’re not energy-bound, right? They’re materials-bound. That’s why they—recycle instead of smelt down. Any one of their mechs is probably carrying a dozen old parts, and you’d get a negative match any place two patterns overlap. They probably just make sure each new mech gets at least some parts in a unique pattern, and that’s what they’ll be looking for.”

but if there's also cameras everywhere then every time a negative match comes out then it just triggers the cameras to pick out those cars. best bet would be collectively agreeing to use one set of specific id for everyone, not a randomized id and thus unique id's

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Loid lemmy.world Loid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#203 · Quote Reply

Hit the gas!

Eh, I'll pass

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#204 · Quote Reply

Why would you get upset at jury rig? It's the original term and older than jerry rig.

I always thought "jury-rig" was a nautical term that fell out of use centuries ago and has only reappeared because some people who heard the phrase "jerry-rigged" and were not familiar with the word "jerry" thought they must have said "jury". Meh, wouldn't be the first time I didn't know what I was talking about.

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iglou programming.dev iglou@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-05-12
#205 · (edited) Quote Reply

Every X seconds is pretty generous. My Subaru only seems to poll the sensors every few minutes, and only when the wheel speed is above 35 MPH or so, at least via what I've observed with my diagnostic tool. The sensors are battery powered and I suspect the low refresh rate is a deliberate gambit to conserve battery life. You are correct on the ID point, though. They can contain up to 16 hexideci...

If my memory serves well, it is configurable. I say X seconds because it can be 5, 10, 30, but of course also 60, 120... This is my programmer brain talking :)

Thanks for the comment though. Much more complete than mine.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#206 · Quote Reply

How would I go about finding a Flock camera?

i suspected there was some near our area, considered the speed cameras are suspiciously placed on an area that doesnt have much traffic to begin with.

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Obi sopuli.xyz Obi@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-01
#207 · Quote Reply

Leave your phone at home. Don't drive your own car there, and don't get an uber. Ride a scooter, bicycle, or walk. Wear a dust mask, headphones (to prevent ear pattern recognition) and safety glasses. Wear a high vis vest while working on the camera. The retro reflective strips show up as dazzling white on infrared cameras, washing out the image. It also helps make any witness assume you're a l...

One thing missing from the list is disguising your gait/walk. I don't know how far along they are with reconciling databases about it, but the technology to identify you by the way you walk already exists. I hear adding a pebble in your shoe helps.

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MisterFrog lemmy.world MisterFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#208 · Quote Reply

Good, fuck this panopticon dystopia shit. Also, some guy sliced the entire pole and left a message: hahaha get wrecked ya surveilling fucks

Props to the camera person for showing the message.

Every small resistance counts ✊

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Agent641 lemmy.world Agent641@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#209 · Quote Reply

One thing missing from the list is disguising your gait/walk. I don't know how far along they are with reconciling databases about it, but the technology to identify you by the way you walk already exists. I hear adding a pebble in your shoe helps.

Damn I knew I forgot something. Good point. I've also heard of wearing a different shoe on each foot, like sneaker on one foot and hiking boot on the other, both to fuss up you gate and leave even more conflicting prints.

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#210 · Quote Reply

That's alarming, but how much can these really vary? I'd be surprised if a lot of vehicles weren't the same.

They vary by enough, and have unique identifiers. And there are four of them per car, which makes it easier to build a profile for each car. This car has these four identifiers, this other car has these four, etc. Couple that with info from license plate cameras and you can track a car without seeing it's plate.

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#211 · Quote Reply

The fun part is that these cameras are not owned, operated or property of your local jurisdiction. They are hardware/software as a service. IANAL, but I think Flock would have to sue you. I have not personally de-flocked anything, but my local area doesn't have any that aren't tied to a business parking lot. If some show up, I can't imagine a 5 minute walk with a hat, face mask and a can of spr...

The flock cameras local to me only face one direction, which makes it a little easier. Still better mask up.

Every time I see one I get curious about the solar panel. Wonder how much non-nazi stuff it could run?

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TheObviousSolution lemmy.ca TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-25
#212 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't take is so personally. I have someone periodically following me around downvoting everything I write too it appears. It's pathetic.

I don't take any particular downvote personally, I just have a problem with the whole unregulated concept of downvoting is, and I think there's a reason why the same networks that brought it into popularity over the predecessors that didn't have are also the ones rampant today toxicity, cult-on-demand bubbles, circlejerks, and the like. Lemmy is the one platform where downvoting really isn't worth anything - well, at least unless the piefed guys have a say in it, from my understanding. If it ever became popular to try to act like the upvote/downvote ratio means something in Lemmy, it would be far easier to manipulate and take advantage in contrast to non-federated platforms, and I already commonly see accounts with almost no comment or post participation since a few months just being used to slap upvotes and downvotes on an hourly basis.

It would just be so simple to improve, but people just keep trying to clone the same flawed systems that made them leave other platforms.

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elucubra sopuli.xyz elucubra@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-03
#213 · Quote Reply

Brake fluid would etch the glass of the lenses. Cleaning the surface wouldn't return the camera to service. Better than paint would be any other substance to thin out the brake fluid for application, particularly if it were less noticeable than paint. That would cause the repair order to come in from lost data collection rather than a report of vandalism, denying them creeping time and that swe...

I didn't know that, and I have used liters of the stuff. Learn something every day.

Is it just Dot3? Dot4 is more common these days.

BTW, kids, we are talking about brake fluid, so don't go spraying it on your camera lenses!

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wookiepedia lemmy.world wookiepedia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#214 · Quote Reply

I didn't know that, and I have used liters of the stuff. Learn something every day. Is it just Dot3? Dot4 is more common these days. BTW, kids, we are talking about brake fluid, so don't go spraying it on your camera lenses!

Was away for a few days and just saw this reply. Yeah, brake fluid is super corrosive, especially on glass. The DOT rating (3, 4, 5, etc.) doesn't play a role in how corrosive it is, it's more about the different additives and composition of the specific fluid and what it's service life is. The more you know...

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elucubra sopuli.xyz elucubra@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-03
#215 · Quote Reply

Was away for a few days and just saw this reply. Yeah, brake fluid is super corrosive, especially on glass. The DOT rating (3, 4, 5, etc.) doesn't play a role in how corrosive it is, it's more about the different additives and composition of the specific fluid and what it's service life is. The more you know...

Yeah, Ive been working on engines (mostly my own, for fun) for decades, and I never knew about brake fluid and glass.

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