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Meron35
lemmy.world
Meron35@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-01 |
The reasoning thought process is one line. I like Kimi models but there's no doubt they are not the best. Thought process Fun practical question
It heavily depends on the frontend. Most cheat, and actually pre-process "simple" prompts and redirect them to non-thinking models, even if you select "thinking." It also doesn't also help that most frontends are jank af and have removed the thinking button. Kimi happened to be the best model I had access to, but even more well-known models like GPT 5 Mini crash out. Sadly don't have access to "better" models to test further. GPT 5 Mini:
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gnarles_snarkley
beehaw.org
gnarles_snarkley@beehaw.org Joined: 2026-01-12 |
Lmao here's what Proton's Lumo said: Walking (moderate pace) | ~5 km/h) | ~1 minute | Low physical effort; you’ll arrive slightly sweaty, which can actually help pre‑wet the car.
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calmblue75
lemmy.ml
calmblue75@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-06 |
The AI is a member of !fuckcars@lemmy.world
But then it would have argued against using a car altogether. |
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RedSnt ♾️🦋♂️👓🖥️🐧
feddit.dk
RedSnt@feddit.dkJoined: 2023-06-18 |
This is quite fun. I'm not quite sure why, but the bot I talked to assumed I could get a bath or something at the car wash:
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Zerush
lemmy.ml
Zerush@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-04-25 |
Everyone is giving AI shit for failing this question. I know a fuck ton of humans that would as well.
Without a doubt, eg.
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Mandrilleren
feddit.dk
Mandrilleren@feddit.dk Joined: 2025-03-01 |
I just tried this with the following services; All of them told be the pros a cons of each and concluded that walking would be best. Except Gemini. It told me that unless i was expecting to carry the car i should drive there. |
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rizzothesmall
sh.itjust.works
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-22 |
Built in cot reasoning. Takes a bit longer but I find it's very good. |
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Zerush
lemmy.ml
Zerush@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-04-25 |
I just tried this with the following services; Grok, Perplexity, Le chat, Lumo (Proton), ChatGPT and Gemini All of them told be the pros a cons of each and concluded that walking would be best. Except Gemini. It told me that unless i was expecting to carry the car i should drive there. You win this round Google.
Also Andisearch had it clear that you have to go with the car. A humble free AI from a two person startup with better results as AIs from big corps, as shown several times in the past. |
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LordKitsuna
lemmy.world
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Yeaaah they waffle a lot, i hate that
You can actually fix this in the settings there's an option for permanent prompt tunings and you can add things like "focus on concise answers" or my favorite " i don't need to be glazed , I don't need to be told that it's an insightful question or reaches the heart of the matter. Just focus on answering the question" |
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Agent641
lemmy.world
Agent641@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
After the first walk to the car wash, chatgpt didn't fall for it again. It sasses me a bit and then I was instructed to drive to the car wash, wash the car, and then walk home
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Sylvartas
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-11 |
To be honest I've had that thought process before. Made it halfway to the gas station that's roughly 300m from home before I remembered the goal was initially to refuel my car |
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Social Unblended
lemmy.zip
rav@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-17 |
I bet it learned that from people 🫣 |
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Mandrilleren
feddit.dk
Mandrilleren@feddit.dk Joined: 2025-03-01 |
Also Andisearch had it clear that you have to go with the car. A humble free AI from a two person startup with better results as AIs from big corps, as shown several times in the past.
Did not know that one. But i don't think we can conclude much from this test. Gemini and Andisearch could easily fail a similar test but others fail. The more this space evolves the more it is central that we remeber that there is a huge difference between simulating inteligence and actual intelligence. Tech companies are getting pretty good at simulating intelligence and they have an economic interest in fooling people into believing it is actual intelligence. |
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pyre
lemmy.world
pyre@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-12 |
After the first walk to the car wash, chatgpt didn't fall for it again. It sasses me a bit and then I was instructed to drive to the car wash, wash the car, and then walk home
"becomes performance art" it's bitchy too. |
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Etterra
discuss.online
Etterra@discuss.online Joined: 2024-12-10 |
"My" in the commuter sense. "Gotta go, my train is here." The great thing about trains is you're not forced to own one and go into debt for it.
That's not contextually correct. If I hail a taxi and it's dirty I don't say "I need to wash my taxi." I would say "this taxi needs to be washed" or similar." |
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HiddenLayer555
lemmy.ml
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-09-13 |
That's not contextually correct. If I hail a taxi and it's dirty I don't say "I need to wash my taxi." I would say "this taxi needs to be washed" or similar."
You're arguing with natural stupidity here. It's human slop. |
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Affine Connection
lemmy.world
AffineConnection@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
It outright told me to wash my car at home when I pointed out that the car would not be at the wash. |
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Affine Connection
lemmy.world
AffineConnection@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
I just tried this with the following services; Grok, Perplexity, Le chat, Lumo (Proton), ChatGPT and Gemini All of them told be the pros a cons of each and concluded that walking would be best. Except Gemini. It told me that unless i was expecting to carry the car i should drive there. You win this round Google.
Gemini also made a joke about the absurdity of the question when I asked. |
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