And the Uber will take them to right destination 99.9% of the times.

If everyone has one of these “automobiles” do people ever walk or run anymore

TBF I've probably gotten lost more times than that driving my own car.

Not really, actually

sigh... how can one be so dumb? has to be a troll... right? pretty please.

When they filmed the movie 'Van Helsing' in Prague they needed one hundred couples who knew how to ballroom dance. Everyone thought this was going to be difficult to set up, but it turned out that literally every extra they hired could waltz. Back in Soviet days, the country didn't have a lot of money for sports equipment, but every school had a record player. They taught the kids ballroom dancing for the Physical Education requirement.

Realistically, schools were designed to provide a trainable workforce that could read well enough to learn new tasks and do enough math to make sure the factory machines were properly maintained.

Many people these days don't read a single book after they get out of school. The AIs are just making things happen faster.

"Don’t let AI write anything for you. Writing is to cognitive health what steps are to physical health"

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Yes, but for recreation. For fun.

We can't have people forming their own ideas.

Although let's be honest, fuck gym class

We went to dance classes all throughout I think eight grade and learned a few of the classical dances. Waltz, Foxtrott, Cha-Cha, Tango. That's Eastern Germany in the early 2000s.

Don't worry, it's about to vote for y'all, too.

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Now, there's an exercise class I could really get behind.

More like:

Now I'm imagining Mel Brooks doing a black-and-white German Expressionist scene of nine year olds in tuxedos and gowns doing the tango.

The statement is dumb but I it does have a hint of true. With new technologies comes a new way of life and this should be reflected in education. The traditional educational system was created when no technologies existed and children and parents lifes were very different.
That's why every kid has "ADHD". They live in a different reality! siting down in a class for hours listening to a boring class and then having a test on what was said does not fill todays kids needs anymore. The global traditional.school system needs an urgent upgrade

edit I said Global because it's not a specific country problem

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Have you seen how fat kids are now? If anything they need double gym class.

From a broader perspective "school" has been a thing since before Socrates and humanity pendulums between "a broad education is the foundation for a strong populace" and "we need a giant pool of disposable labor".

And the US public education philosophy is similarly inconsistent. At the earliest it was Puritans who wanted everyone to be able to read the Bible for themselves and so pushed for literacy. At times it has been guided specifically by the business economy but it's inaccurate to say that schools were designed to produce factory workers.

It doesn't work

My middle school in the us made us learn to waltz in gym class. I'm ass at it, but it was fun.

Yeah, hell modern universal public education was partly a result of the working class fighting like hell for it

tsk tsk

I took gym class online in high school. Best class ever. Just had to make up data for much I ran and how many push ups I did every day. I started at 5 and went up by 1 every week so it looked like I was improving. It was a dumb state class requirement that slipped through the cracks when I moved between states after freshman year, so I had to cram it in my senior year to be able to graduate.

Oh Emmett

The people who don't respect the value of school generally performed very poorly in school.

Street clothes or gym shorts?

My elementary school PE did a couple weeks every year where we did square dancing and line dancing. I guess that’s the southeastern US coming in. Sometimes we did some other more traditional English dance where the boys and girls would be in rows facing each other where there were some set steps and then the couple at one end would dance down between the lines to the other end, there would be more steps and then the next couple would move, and so on. It was like something out of a Jane Austen movie.

They do have a point. School should be about learning and developing critical thinking skills rather than memorizing who the 30th president was.

I know my schooling had a ton of memorization. Funny to think about now that I know I have Aphantasia because I always excelled in math and science because they are less about memorization and more about learning a concept to apply.

They need to teach kids how to use AI. It's like people that won't let you use a calculator in math. "You aren't always going to have a calculator in your pocket"

I've always been a big supporter of open book/note tests

There is no reason I should be able to recite as much of the Canterbury Tales as I can.

Modern universal public eduction has its roots in prussian model and the idea was very much to make effective and loyal workforce. Im not saying modern education has the same ulterior motivations, but things like standarized curricula and grading are coming from there.

On the other hand, a lot of good ideas ended up getting co-opted to serve the State.

I don't think the IWW was planning on ahving kids learn the Pledge of Allegiance.

We mature too late in life to realize thats the last time anyone will ever teach us for free.

I learned square dancing in high school in Ohio. I was the only boy in a class of all girls, because I had broken my wrist and couldn't play basketball. I would love to tell the story of how this helped me get girls, but I was much too big of a loser to take advantage of the situation.

The only war is gym class war.

Gods I love that movie. Ahead of its time in some ways maybe...

"Bit early to be imposing gender roles on it, don't you think?"

And the Crimson Red Assurance bit 😂

So she's saying that her kids are useless?

I've not seen any AI that can write better than I can. Certainly not better than some of my professors and teachers over the years.

Every kid in Scotland is taught how to ceilidh. Some of us even learn to enjoy it!

I do not see the problem in "AI can write essays in seconds better than the teachers can." There's a problem but it's kind of not that.

I was in high school 20 years ago, long before LLMs were cokesniff in a silicon valley board room. Back then, you could buy essays off the rack. You could commission a custom one if you were bougie enough, or "Okay I got one on Hamlet, Othello or Much Ado About Nothing. Take your pick." Some of these were "I wrote this for my senior project three years ago." The ability for students to get an essay from somewhere without having to work for it has existed for awhile.

What's the entire point of essay writing? Someone who hasn't ever studied the fundamentals of instruction is about to lecture me on the importance of literacy as a whole, as if I don't understand the value of the skill I'm using right now. No, that's not how lesson planning works. A lesson plan must be specific and goal-oriented. "Upon completion of this lesson, the student should be able to demonstrate knowledge and skill in the subject of persuasive writing by:" followed by a bullet point list of things students who have successfully completed the exercise can do. "List four logical fallacies and describe techniques for avoiding each. Identify strong versus weak arguments. Detect unsupported statements of fact. Locate an original source given a citation."

I'm not convinced we're working on that level much anymore; I think a lot of school is simply daycare busywork crossed with a long and elaborate hazing ritual. I hear teachers and administrators talking about how "hard" or "challenging" it should be, as if they're developing a video game. See, the first few levels should be pretty easy, but then it gets harder and harder so that people who beat the whole game really feel like they deserve it.

We're told that the point of scholarly writing is to maximize correctness. Someone somewhere does original research via the scientific method, they publish their research, it gets peer reviewed and then published. Then, authors with a point to make gather up several such primary sources and cite them as supporting evidence when making some broader point. As we say on the internet, sauce plz. This is how we maintain a chain of factual custody, as it were, how to tell the genuine from the bullshit.

That's not how essay writing gets assigned or graded, though. It's assigned in terms of page, paragraph or word counts. Font, size, spacing and margins. It will be graded on spelling, punctuation, grammar and correct adherence to MLA formatting, "When citing a work from an anthology the title of the work is rendered in bold while the title of the anthology is underlined, whereas when citing a work from a periodical" fuck. that.

Because they're not training scholars. They're babysitting. Actually grading essays like that based on correctness of sources is asking every high school English teacher in the nation to do 90 research projects of their own three times a semester. It's a stupid amount of work compared to skimming and turning commas into semicolons.

I think you could actually get the point across better by handing the students completed essays and having them peer review them. Hand your students an essay and ask them "is this valid, does it hold water?" That process is at least as important as writing an essay from scratch. Proper scholarly writing is a task that requires more reading than writing; you have to be able to vet the sources for your essay before it's even written. So starting students out by vetting existing articles would be 1. possible to efficiently grade and 2. actually build the relevant skills. Compared to dumping kids down in front of MS Word telling them to fill ten pages with filler.

People reliant on LLMs are just participating in an any% dementia speedrun. It's a social experiment, of sorts.

What the fuck man I got told off for six years because I didn't know how to jump rope

Why learn to read and write while there's speech recognition and text-to-speech apps nowadays?

God forbid they learn how to think, when LLMs can do it (kind of) for them

I'm sorry, but can you please attach the youtok link to your comment. I need to hear what you said, since I can't read...

Who needs facts when you have GrokAI teacher!

Now students don't need traditional teachers at all with fabulous lesson plans like, "Was the Holocaust even real?"

IIRC the goal wasn’t to have a loyal workforce, but to have an army that isn’t dependent on a small number of elites.

Basically “we won’t stop with the death of our officers, our soldiers can step up to the occasion”.