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Joined: 2022-11-03 |
@firefox, the “last privacy-respecting browser” now nags you with in-browser pop-ups to let AI generate “key points” when you long-press links.Mozilla CEO: “AI should always be a choice – something people can easily turn off”Then why the fuck is it off by default? Why the fuck am I getting pop-ups asking me to try features I didn’t ask for? That’s not a choice. That’s opt-out with a fucking marketing budget.What the fuck happened to you, Mozilla.They spent WEEKS in damage control promising an "AI kill switch" and then shipped it fucking disabled. That is the most gaslit UX I have ever seen in my life."Help me @librewolf - you're my only hope."Settings > AI Controls > Block AI enhancements. Do it now, because they won't do it for you.—Edit: a few corrections thanks to @Feyd:“Hover over links”It’s a long-press / context menu action, not a passive hover. That’s a meaningful distinction because hover implies it’s happening constantly without intent, which is way more invasive than what’s actually happening.“Sending page content to ML models”the default link preview (before you enable key points) just reads the Open Graph meta tags – the same og:title / og:description metadata that generates link cards in Slack, Discord, iMessage, etc. That’s not AI, that’s just HTML parsing. even when you DO opt into the AI key points feature, it runs a local on-device model, not shipping your page content off to some cloud endpoint.#Firefox #Mozilla #AI #InfoSec #Privacy #Fediverse #OpenWeb |
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Joined: 2022-11-03 |
@firefox @librewolf OH MY GOD. The Firefox mastodon account automatically boosts your post when you tag them.lmaooooo |
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Joined: 2022-11-12 |
@firefox @librewolf OH MY GOD. The Firefox mastodon account automatically boosts your post when you tag them.lmaooooo
@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf that account isn't affiliated with Mozilla at all. They used to operate an official account on their own mozilla.social instance, but shut that down and as far as I'm aware they aren't on the fediverse at all anymore (their website links to a bluesky and a few other social platforms, but no fediverse). |
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@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf Also this outlines what happened to them: goblin.band/notes/ak9wrlzwgqsv |
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@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf Also this outlines what happened to them: goblin.band/notes/ak9wrlzwgqsv
@jbowen @firefox @librewolf jesus.... |
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@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf Also this outlines what happened to them: goblin.band/notes/ak9wrlzwgqsv
@jbowen @firefox @librewolf this honestly makes me so sad inside. i think i developed somewhat of an emotional connection with mozilla over the years, clinging to them as the one last shining light amidst the vast sea of enshittification. feelsbad.jpg |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
That is the most obnoxiously incorrect therapy speak usage of "gaslit/gaslighting" I have ever seen in my life. |
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Joined: 2022-11-03 |
That is the most gaslit UX I have ever seen in my life. That is the most obnoxiously incorrect therapy speak usage of "gaslit/gaslighting" I have ever seen in my life.
@TheTechnician27 you're technically making a point about language inflation, but you picked maybe the worst possible example to die on that hill because "we said it's opt-in but it's actually opt-out" is genuinely closer to gaslighting than 95% of the times people use that word online. |
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Joined: 2022-11-20 |
@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf Loving how Waterfox and Librewolf strip this garbage out with prejudice. |
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renegadespork
lemmy.jelliefrontier.net
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.netJoined: 2024-12-03 |
Okay, so I hate these features too, but the "Block AI enhancements" switch does work exactly as advertised. Should it be disabled by default? IMO yes, but this is not "gaslighting". Its existence is honestly the only thing keeping me from dropping Firefox entirely. I get that devs want people to discover and use the features they're worked on, but I don't understand how Mozilla can be so willfully ignorant of what their user-base wants. It's not like we're quiet about it. |
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SacredHeartAttack
lemmy.world
SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
They really want us to change browsers, don't they? |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
@TheTechnician27 you're technically making a point about language inflation, but you picked maybe the worst possible example to die on that hill because "we said it's opt-in but it's actually opt-out" is genuinely closer to gaslighting than 95% of the times people use that word online.
ahem tap mic align notes adjust glasses Lying is not the same thing as gaslighting, you colossal fuckmuppet. |
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Syndication
lemmy.today
Syndication@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-01-03 |
That is the most gaslit UX I have ever seen in my life. That is the most obnoxiously incorrect therapy speak usage of "gaslit/gaslighting" I have ever seen in my life.
Just saw this a couple posts above this one lol
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 |
ahem tap mic align notes adjust glasses Lying is not the same thing as gaslighting, you colossal fuckmuppet.
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
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It's not about "imperfect English"; it's about lazily, selfishly abusing real therapy terms in places they don't apply in a way that strips away crucial language from victims of abuse and genercizes it to absolute meaninglessness. I'm not going to argue the truth or merits of "closer" when they're a fucking million miles away from what the word means; you're upset with me for not playing into their fallacious relative privation bullshit, and I categorically don't care. |
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@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf I'm still on 140.7.0esr and I don't have that option. Does anyone know what version I need to look out for so I can disable? |
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Chad McCullough
polymaths.social
cmccullough@polymaths.socialJoined: 2025-04-29 |
@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf I'm still on 140.7.0esr and I don't have that option. Does anyone know what version I need to look out for so I can disable?
@BoydStephenSmithJr @k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf 148.0 and above have the AI "kill switch". |
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Joined: 2022-12-13 |
@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf Sadly, there's a reason that I'm still ignoring the prompt to upgrade FF to dogshit mode. The sad part is that I'm having difficulty accepting what I know to be true--it's over. 😞 |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 |
@BoydStephenSmithJr @k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf 148.0 and above have the AI "kill switch".
The ESR release is one version too early for the killswitch? That's rough. Upgrade to Stable and enjoy the killswitch... Along with an in-app "VPN" and a bunch of other random things |
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Joined: 2022-11-03 |
ahem tap mic align notes adjust glasses Lying is not the same thing as gaslighting, you colossal fuckmuppet.
@TheTechnician27 “colossal fuckmuppet” is doing a LOT of heavy lifting for someone claiming the moral high ground on precise language usage. |
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roofuskit
lemmy.world
roofuskit@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-11-03 |
They spent WEEKS in damage control promising an "AI kill switch" and then shipped it fucking disabled. That is the most gaslit UX I have ever seen in my life. Okay, so I hate these features too, but the "Block AI enhancements" switch does work exactly as advertised. Should it be disabled by default? IMO yes, but this is not "gaslighting". Its existence is honestly the only thing keeping me from...
after the update it literally pops up and tells you its part of the program now and gives you the option to turn it on before doing anything else. Some people just want to be angry. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
@TheTechnician27 “colossal fuckmuppet” is doing a LOT of heavy lifting for someone claiming the moral high ground on precise language usage.
Oh, no, this follow-up comment reinforces that I got it exactly right. |
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Blisterexe
lemmy.zip
Blisterexe@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-11-06 |
@firefox @librewolf OH MY GOD. The Firefox mastodon account automatically boosts your post when you tag them.lmaooooo
It's not the mastodon account, it's the lemmy community for firefox. On mastodon it appears as an account that auto-reposts any post it's tagged in, but on our end it just looks like a reddit community. |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 |
ahem tap mic align notes adjust glasses Lying is not the same thing as gaslighting, you colossal fuckmuppet.
if you're going to play grammar Nazi with someone else's imperfect English, at least exhibit some basic literacy yourself and read what they said. @k3ym0@infosec.exchange said they were closer, not that they were right. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
if you're going to play grammar Nazi with someone else's imperfect English, at least exhibit some basic literacy yourself and read what they said. @k3ym0@infosec.exchange said they were closer, not that they were right.
Did you ditch your original comment because:
I'm legitimately confused at what happened here; this is ostensibly the exact same comment I already replied to except that I don't think you invoked "grammar Nazi" before. (Ironically: learn what the fuck a "grammar Nazi" is before accusing someone of being one.) |
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grainfed
quokk.au
grainfed@quokk.au Joined: 2025-12-24 |
Thank you very much. I have version 149.0. I paid no attention, assuming any AI features would be disabled by default. |
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Vincent
feddit.nl
Vincent@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Are you implying that the "generate key points" thingy is not privacy-respecting? If so, in what way is it not? |
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Joined: 2022-11-09 |
@k3ym0 @firefox @librewolf @Feyd - currently using Waterfox, which appears to have none of this nonsense attached. |
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