Will they just revote again then until it passes?

hopefully no. but we are still in danger

Why was chat control allowed to be presented again in the first place.

this is the real thing, this is almost certainly unconstitutional.

greedy corps going against law as usual.

PLEASE

Good, but pretty meaningless overall while they still allow lobbying to take place.

They pretend to care that lobbying means corruption from corporate interests, but doing anything meaningful to stop lobbying entirely and punish anyone still doing it would be "authoritarian communism" now, wouldn't it?

No, not really. It's because they retracted the proposal before going to vote, because they knew it wouldnt pass after Germany publicly said they would vote against.

Then they changed some stuff and send it again, which is now rejected as it seems.

Now they need to wait, but they didnt before.

This is indeed the plan. Only 1 time is enough to get this through the system. But it requires 500 times saying no first.

They'll just change a few things and try again. I feel like we've been hearing about chat control on and off for about 5 years now and I can't imagine it'll go away soon.

Saw this then scrolled more to see the EU going after porn sites for age verification. 😞

Who are they?

Let’s celebrate this victory… even though it’s concerning that it is a recurring topic :-/

it's indicative of the system we're in. our oligarchs have enough money to pay people to push for this in perpetuity while the rest of us are forced to give up some degree of our lives to fight it off on a field of battles that's tilted towards money; they will win eventually unless the system itself is changed.

So this war is far from an end huh?

When the European Union is low-key IRA

The Commission probably since they're the only entity who can propose law

About fucking time for some good news.

How do I respond to this^^

Yes, I think we're all assuming the law came into parliament the regular way. I assumed the "they" are supposed lobbyists who are standing behind and outside the regular entity..

Am I missing something or are you pulling a Nielsen on me?
"Coffee?"
"Yes, I know."

That would make us Margaret Thatcher, which is very gross

Oh, sorry. Thought you actually didn't knew, my bad!

Well based on the seats in the parliament, most eu voters are rightwing to some degree.
So it's Tatcher going undercover IRA to bomb herself?

Where can I see who voted for and against? I want to know if I need to change who I vote for next EU election.

I think that Patrick posted it. basically the ones against where the conservatives, both left and right where against (even if there were some people inside those parities who voted to continue the scanning)

EDIT: apparently EPP voted against not because they want to support privacy but because the proposal was not enough invasive. they were afraid that it would have stopped their Chat control 2.0 proposal.

see u all on monday

They won't stop pushing until they get it

For those of us out of the loop, who is Patrick?

Definitely not a Krusty Krab

i think they mean patrick breyer from the german pirate party

Probably Patrick Breyer, who often posts about privacy issues in the EU parliament.

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/

Thanks!

Scroll down and select your country: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

It's always the ones you most expect.

Ew dawg get a grip

Why do we have to keep fighting our own government for our rights? Why can't our government just represent us?

Why can't they vote on a ban to do any chat control bills? Stop this nonsense from happening again.

Green = "opposing", red = "supporting".... "chat control extension". I guess the greens are against the chat control proposal, though that's hardly clear, and there seem to be more reds than greens so that suggests the chat control proposal was accepted, or is there some other layer to this? Also the stance of a state bears no relation to that of its representatives. Very confusing

Congratulations!

The "Chat Control" proposal would legalise scanning of all private digital communications, including encrypted messages and photos.

it's explained right there above the vote summary

We should topple the EU then tbh

It's not the topic of the vote I'm trying to clarify but rather trying to make sense of that web page showing who is voting for what, and how, if at all that is connected to the European Parliament vote. That website suggests overwhelming support for the proposal at both state and representative level, I'm not sure what to make of that.

If you have money you can ask the lobbyists.

BY ONE FUCKING VOTE!

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189574

Vote out every single fucker who is trying to limit our freedoms!

Dude, we're protesting now until all those fuckers who voted in favor of chat control are voted out of parliament. We have names!

It is concerning news, because we narrowly dodged it this time by one vote.

352 against

248 pro

44 undecided

A simple majority will do

What?
I see conservatives+ extreme right pro. Also some fake left

Against greens -real left.

(Not absolute since they vote individually)

But by faction:

pro: EPP,ECR, ID/Patriots

Against: EFA, The Left, Renew Europe, S&D(divided)

Undecided: S&D, Renew Europe

April 3, already planned

To put it in Douglas Adams words: Because the politicians are lizards ;)