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geneva_convenience
lemmy.ml
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BestBouclettes
jlai.lu
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu Joined: 2023-07-04 |
More like hostages |
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NatakuNox
lemmy.world
NatakuNox@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-07 |
Yup. All men and women who stood up for themselves, their family, their friends, and their nation. Under every international law they have a right to defend their homes and property. |
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merc
sh.itjust.works
merc@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-09 Banned |
Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime. |
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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.
let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps. they must be stopped. |
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Jikiya
lemmy.world
Jikiya@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-20 |
let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps. they must be stopped.
I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners. |
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athatet
lemmy.zip
athatet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-12 |
I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.
It looks to me like she did both. Which is exactly what she should have done. |
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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.
she was just clarifying they they were innocent. because "prisoner" has negative connotations |
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merc
sh.itjust.works
merc@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-09 Banned |
let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps. they must be stopped.
The whole point of the reply to that post was to argue semantics. |
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badbytes
lemmy.world
badbytes@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
Disgusting! |
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mathemachristian[he]
lemmy.ml
mathemachristian@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-04-08 |
Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.
The point is that the palestinians are considered "prisoners" while the settlers are considered hostages. "Prisoners" conveys some kind of legitimacy to their detention like probable cause where there is none. |
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merc
sh.itjust.works
merc@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-09 Banned |
The point is that the palestinians are considered "prisoners" while the settlers are considered hostages. "Prisoners" conveys some kind of legitimacy to their detention like probable cause where there is none.
In both cases, hostages are being kept as prisoners. |
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geneva_convenience
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geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-01-25 |
Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.
Can people stop linking Wikipedia articles which they don't read? As with almost everything in this com, it's not pointing out that the language is factually incorrect, but that it's used selectively in a very biased manner. Hamas took like 200 people prisoner of which most were actually combatants. But they got accused of taking "hostages". |
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nearhat
lemmy.zip
nearhat@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-06 |
You mean Palestinian hostages held in Ashkenazi concentration camps, right? |
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merc
sh.itjust.works
merc@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-09 Banned |
Usually, however, imprisonment is understood to imply actual confinement against one's will in a prison employed for the purpose according to the provisions of the law Can people stop linking Wikipedia articles which they don't read? As with almost everything in this com, it's not pointing out that the language is factually incorrect, but that it's used selectively in a very biased manner. Hama...
And holding them prisoner. |
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geneva_convenience
Moderator
geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-01-25 |
But they got accused of taking "hostages". And holding them prisoner.
Alright now I know you're just here to troll. Bye |
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geneva_convenience
Moderator
geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-01-25 |
In both cases, hostages are being kept as prisoners.
Very weird how for Hamas they constantly used the term "held hostage" then. |
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orc girly
lemmy.ml
orc_princess@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-09-11 |
Alright now I know you're just here to troll. Bye
Good riddance |
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unwarlikeExtortion
lemmy.ml
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-01-26 |
I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.
Sure, everyone imprisoned is a prisoner under international law, but I assume Susan is aiming her comment at an america-centric audience. I think large enough parts of Lemmy get the disproportionate news titling from "credible" news orgs such as NYT reading along the lines of "30 dead in Gaza building collapse" vs. "2 mothers brutally murdered in Tel Aviv during new wave of terror bombing" Are we really going to knitpick on Susan for calling them "not prisoners" because they're not imprisoned like the average peacetime prisoner: with at least a resemblance of a due process? |
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