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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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BestBouclettes jlai.lu BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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More like hostages

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NatakuNox lemmy.world NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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Yup. All men and women who stood up for themselves, their family, their friends, and their nation. Under every international law they have a right to defend their homes and property.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
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Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.

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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉 lemmy.world IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
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Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.

let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps.

they must be stopped.

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Jikiya lemmy.world Jikiya@lemmy.world
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let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps. they must be stopped.

I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.

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athatet lemmy.zip athatet@lemmy.zip
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I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.

It looks to me like she did both. Which is exactly what she should have done.

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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉 lemmy.world IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
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I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.

she was just clarifying they they were innocent. because "prisoner" has negative connotations

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
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let's not get bog down with semantics, the point is that Israel has mass detained Palestinian citizens and now it's trying to mass execute them all. they are already in the concentration camps and want to upgrade to deaths camps. they must be stopped.

The whole point of the reply to that post was to argue semantics.

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badbytes lemmy.world badbytes@lemmy.world
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#10 · Quote Reply

Disgusting!

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.

The point is that the palestinians are considered "prisoners" while the settlers are considered hostages.

"Prisoners" conveys some kind of legitimacy to their detention like probable cause where there is none.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
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The point is that the palestinians are considered "prisoners" while the settlers are considered hostages. "Prisoners" conveys some kind of legitimacy to their detention like probable cause where there is none.

In both cases, hostages are being kept as prisoners.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Imprisonment doesn't mean someone has been charged or convicted of a crime.

Usually, however, imprisonment is understood to imply actual confinement against one's will in a prison employed for the purpose according to the provisions of the law

Can people stop linking Wikipedia articles which they don't read? As with almost everything in this com, it's not pointing out that the language is factually incorrect, but that it's used selectively in a very biased manner.

Hamas took like 200 people prisoner of which most were actually combatants. But they got accused of taking "hostages".

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nearhat lemmy.zip nearhat@lemmy.zip
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You mean Palestinian hostages held in Ashkenazi concentration camps, right?

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
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Usually, however, imprisonment is understood to imply actual confinement against one's will in a prison employed for the purpose according to the provisions of the law Can people stop linking Wikipedia articles which they don't read? As with almost everything in this com, it's not pointing out that the language is factually incorrect, but that it's used selectively in a very biased manner. Hama...

But they got accused of taking "hostages".

And holding them prisoner.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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#16 · Quote Reply

But they got accused of taking "hostages". And holding them prisoner.

Alright now I know you're just here to troll. Bye

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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In both cases, hostages are being kept as prisoners.

Very weird how for Hamas they constantly used the term "held hostage" then.

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orc girly lemmy.ml orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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Alright now I know you're just here to troll. Bye

Good riddance

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unwarlikeExtortion lemmy.ml unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
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I agree with your points, but Susan(original pic) didn't help at all with her statement. They are prisoners even if illegally so, falsely accused, or locked up for no reason. It would have been much more constructive for her to mention that they have no reason to be imprisoned, rather than make her statement that they're not prisoners.

Sure, everyone imprisoned is a prisoner under international law, but I assume Susan is aiming her comment at an america-centric audience.

I think large enough parts of Lemmy get the disproportionate news titling from "credible" news orgs such as NYT reading along the lines of "30 dead in Gaza building collapse" vs. "2 mothers brutally murdered in Tel Aviv during new wave of terror bombing"

Are we really going to knitpick on Susan for calling them "not prisoners" because they're not imprisoned like the average peacetime prisoner: with at least a resemblance of a due process?

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