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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
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Episode highlights:

  • Prescriptive advice for the Second Nakba

  • Projecting American cultural values on to allegorical Palestinians to make a point

  • Lt. Data gets a smooch Lt. Data arbitrarily pretends not to have emotions instead of just telling a girl he doesn't reciprocate romantic interest

  • 💩

  • Picard moves people from their generational home and also wins the day with evil space legalese

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daannii lemmy.world daannii@lemmy.world
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I always thought ferengi represented American capitalism.

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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
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I always thought ferengi represented American capitalism.

They do. But lazy interpretations were made

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-15
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Let’s be honest… the fact that hand phasers are able to blow up damns from miles away….

Says a lot about the values of the federation.

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c10l lemmy.world c10l@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
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Let’s be honest… the fact that hand phasers are able to blow up damns from miles away…. Says a lot about the values of the federation.

Seeing that Federation phasers are some of the weakest hand weapons in that universe, what does that say about the values of its enemies?

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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Seeing that Federation phasers are some of the weakest hand weapons in that universe, what does that say about the values of its enemies?

I've never seen a klingon disruptor pistol do that. Have you? or Cardie, or any one else's (though there was that time Quark was trying to sell some shoulder fire artillery...)

we don't know what kind of range or power they really have. Just like how their starships aren't warships, but they out class most other faction's warships.the other factions don't hide what they are though. (and the kind of firepower that can take out damns from miles away is simply unneeded in any battlefield at that level of accessibility.)

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teft piefed.social teft@piefed.social
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I always thought ferengi represented American capitalism.

I thought they were supposed to be jewish characters since some of the antisemitic tropes for jewish people is their love of money and large noses.

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teft piefed.social teft@piefed.social
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Seeing that Federation phasers are some of the weakest hand weapons in that universe, what does that say about the values of its enemies?

Federation phasers aren’t weak. The federation just prefers to stun people rather than vaporize them. Remember when Data used his phaser to shutdown that power grid? Or the time they vaporized rock with their phasers?

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nforminvasion lemmy.world nforminvasion@lemmy.world
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I always thought ferengi represented American capitalism.

I wouldn't say American capitalism, just capitalism in general.

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Lushed_Lungfish lemmy.ca Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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Federation phasers aren’t weak. The federation just prefers to stun people rather than vaporize them. Remember when Data used his phaser to shutdown that power grid? Or the time they vaporized rock with their phasers?

Federation phasers are versatile. It's keeping in line with their whole ethos. Yes the phaser can be used as a weapon, but it also doubles as a tool.

Kinda like a shovel.

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dermanus lemmy.ca dermanus@lemmy.ca
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I always thought ferengi represented American capitalism.

I understood them as representing humanities greed. All the races stand in for some aspect of humanity. Our violence, our suspicion, our logic, our greed, etc...

Some people did make comparisons to Jewish stereotypes and while there are a few I don't think it's too strong. Klingon culture has flavours of Samurai in it, but it doesn't make them stand ins for Japanese.

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Thebeardedsinglemalt lemmy.world Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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I thought they were supposed to be jewish characters since some of the antisemitic tropes for jewish people is their love of money and large noses.

And a lot of the actors playing them are Jewish

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-22
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I thought they were supposed to be jewish characters since some of the antisemitic tropes for jewish people is their love of money and large noses.

I would think the ears were their most pronounced feature.

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scarabic lemmy.world scarabic@lemmy.world
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I thought they were supposed to be jewish characters since some of the antisemitic tropes for jewish people is their love of money and large noses.

I know I know… we’ll make their EARS big!!

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_stranger_ lemmy.world _stranger_@lemmy.world
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Federation phasers aren’t weak. The federation just prefers to stun people rather than vaporize them. Remember when Data used his phaser to shutdown that power grid? Or the time they vaporized rock with their phasers?

He phaser'd an aqueduct and vaporized something like milles of water one time.

Not to mention the times ships have used their phasers to fuck with the planet scale tectonics

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otter lemmy.dbzer0.com otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Federation phasers are versatile. It's keeping in line with their whole ethos. Yes the phaser can be used as a weapon, but it also doubles as a tool. Kinda like a shovel.

TBF, you're gonna want a spade, not a shovel. The pointed end is farrr more versatile than the flat, blunted front of a shovel.

ie. A shovel =/= a tactical spade 🤌🏼

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otter lemmy.dbzer0.com otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I've never seen a klingon disruptor pistol do that. Have you? or Cardie, or any one else's (though there was that time Quark was trying to sell some shoulder fire artillery...) we don't know what kind of range or power they really have. Just like how their starships aren't warships, but they out class most other faction's warships.the other factions don't hide what they are though. (and the kin...

Dams*

(fuck me, is is Spellcheck Saturday? 😅)

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kieron115 startrek.website kieron115@startrek.website
Joined: 2024-02-14
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Federation phasers aren’t weak. The federation just prefers to stun people rather than vaporize them. Remember when Data used his phaser to shutdown that power grid? Or the time they vaporized rock with their phasers?

Pre-Federation weapons were nothing to shake a stick at either lol.

Trip: You did all this with one phase pistol?

Reed: You're good at building things, I'm good at blowing them up.

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-21
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Dams* (fuck me, is is Spellcheck Saturday? 😅)

Spelling doesn't count on weekends, we're all too tired

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caseyweederman lemmy.ca caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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They do. But lazy interpretations were made

Wellllll... There is the matter of the ethnicity of every single actor who plays a Ferengi.

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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-11-24
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Wellllll... There is the matter of the ethnicity of every single actor who plays a Ferengi.

Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner, Walter Koenig, Bent Spiner, Anton Yelchin and a bunch of others on the show were Jewish too though. It's just a profession that has a lot of Jewish people. Comedians were kind of the same, in the 70's 80% of American comedians were Jewish.

There's a whole different can of worms to open about why Jewish people got relegated to only certain kinds of jobs

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AxExRx lemmy.world axexrx@lemmy.world
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Spelling doesn't count on weekends, we're all too tired

Sad detective's reference to actor Bent Spiner was the best one in the thread

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Sunsofold lemmings.world Sunsofold@lemmings.world
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I understood them as representing humanities greed. All the races stand in for some aspect of humanity. Our violence, our suspicion, our logic, our greed, etc... Some people did make comparisons to Jewish stereotypes and while there are a few I don't think it's too strong. Klingon culture has flavours of Samurai in it, but it doesn't make them stand ins for Japanese.

To be specific, it's not representing those things themselves but a way of projecting what would happen if those elements were more exclusively glorified. Klingons are a culture in which martial strength and honour are culturally glorified. Ferengi are a culture in which greed is not just present or prominent, but specifically glorified. Each one takes a concept, raises its value to max and then a society is built around that value. And then the Captain, as embodiment of enlightened liberalism, meets that culture and comes to terms with it.

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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
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Sad detective's reference to actor Bent Spiner was the best one in the thread

shit 🤦

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
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Can't be israel, Ferengi don't find profit in genocide

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